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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend WTH What happended to being cash rich??
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/1/2014 Posts: 903 Location: sky
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rwitre wrote:Ericsson wrote:Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend WTH What happended to being cash rich?? and savings from early bond payment There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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rwitre wrote:Ericsson wrote:Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend WTH What happended to being cash rich?? Unrealised loss in listed equities at ksh.3.2bn compared to a gain of sh.0.9bn in 2017 Lower returns in property investments due to depressed property market Provisions of the new IFRS9 Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503
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Ericsson wrote:rwitre wrote:Ericsson wrote:Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend WTH What happended to being cash rich?? Unrealised loss in listed equities at ksh.3.2bn compared to a gain of sh.0.9bn in 2017 Lower returns in property investments due to depressed property market Provisions of the new IFRS9 Chisas, it's like they are invested in KQ ARM and NBV (K-Shoe)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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xxxxx wrote:Ericsson wrote:rwitre wrote:Ericsson wrote:Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend WTH What happended to being cash rich?? Unrealised loss in listed equities at ksh.3.2bn compared to a gain of sh.0.9bn in 2017 Lower returns in property investments due to depressed property market Provisions of the new IFRS9 Chisas, it's like they are invested in KQ ARM and NBV (K-Shoe) Return on assets is quite low coupled with high expenses Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Ericsson wrote:xxxxx wrote:Ericsson wrote:rwitre wrote:Ericsson wrote:Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend WTH What happended to being cash rich?? Unrealised loss in listed equities at ksh.3.2bn compared to a gain of sh.0.9bn in 2017 Lower returns in property investments due to depressed property market Provisions of the new IFRS9 Chisas, it's like they are invested in KQ ARM and NBV (K-Shoe) Return on assets is quite low coupled with high expenses I thought property sector is on fire, you can never go wrong In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/1/2014 Posts: 903 Location: sky
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Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:xxxxx wrote:Ericsson wrote:rwitre wrote:Ericsson wrote:Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend WTH What happended to being cash rich?? Unrealised loss in listed equities at ksh.3.2bn compared to a gain of sh.0.9bn in 2017 Lower returns in property investments due to depressed property market Provisions of the new IFRS9 Chisas, it's like they are invested in KQ ARM and NBV (K-Shoe) Return on assets is quite low coupled with high expenses I thought property sector is on fire, you can never go wrong things are thick for britam, heavily invested in strungling property market and at the same time housing finance There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503
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littledove wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:xxxxx wrote:Ericsson wrote:rwitre wrote:Ericsson wrote:Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend WTH What happended to being cash rich?? Unrealised loss in listed equities at ksh.3.2bn compared to a gain of sh.0.9bn in 2017 Lower returns in property investments due to depressed property market Provisions of the new IFRS9 Chisas, it's like they are invested in KQ ARM and NBV (K-Shoe) Return on assets is quite low coupled with high expenses I thought property sector is on fire, you can never go wrong things are thick for britam, heavily invested in strungling property market and at the same time housing finance So do we buy Britam or Housing Finance right now??
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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xxxxx wrote:littledove wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:xxxxx wrote:Ericsson wrote:rwitre wrote:Ericsson wrote:Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend WTH What happended to being cash rich?? Unrealised loss in listed equities at ksh.3.2bn compared to a gain of sh.0.9bn in 2017 Lower returns in property investments due to depressed property market Provisions of the new IFRS9 Chisas, it's like they are invested in KQ ARM and NBV (K-Shoe) Return on assets is quite low coupled with high expenses I thought property sector is on fire, you can never go wrong things are thick for britam, heavily invested in strungling property market and at the same time housing finance So do we buy Britam or Housing Finance right now?? Sell all Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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LINKNo reason to panic sell yet. Core business still growing. Net assets looking good. Premiums growing. Shareholders funds increasing. Paper losses on listed equities and IFRS 9 are storms that can be weathered. Buying HFCK was always a wrong move from the start, but Britam is stuck with it. Dividend drought for the year is practical. Better than eating into reserves and then calling for a rights issue. Tupatane AGM
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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rwitre wrote:LINKNo reason to panic sell yet. Core business still growing. Net assets looking good. Premiums growing. Shareholders funds increasing. Paper losses on listed equities and IFRS 9 are storms that can be weathered. Buying HFCK was always a wrong move from the start, but Britam is stuck with it. Dividend drought for the year is practical. Better than eating into reserves and then calling for a rights issue. Tupatane AGM Retained earnings has all been wiped off Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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Ericsson wrote:Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend Big monkey this one...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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Ericsson wrote:rwitre wrote:Ericsson wrote:Loss of ksh.2.3bn compared to a profit before tax of ksh.868mn in 2017 Directors recommend no dividend WTH What happended to being cash rich?? Unrealised loss in listed equities at ksh.3.2bn compared to a gain of sh.0.9bn in 2017 Lower returns in property investments due to depressed property market Provisions of the new IFRS9 Please explain to me the above especially the IFRS9.I thought it only applies to banks(Or the HFCK relationship kicks in) Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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Always refer to Yasserbigchair list HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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@Realtreaty has not been spotted yet? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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murchr wrote:@Realtreaty has not been spotted yet? Yesterday i saw him comment on South Africa: Foreigners injured in xenophobia clashes thread and disappeared. He went to sell all his RSA linked shares including BBK In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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Kenya’s largest insurance company, Britam is in discussions to own part of Tiserin Capital, a Private Equity company focused on African investments. The insurer aims to spread out its investments beyond real estate, stocks, and government securities. Although the exact details on the transaction are not clear, Britam’s board has approved the acquisition and it is set to be the largest investor in the PE firm as per the Business Daily. Tiserin Capital invests in healthcare, technology companies, agri-business, and the food industry. Britam’s CEO Mr. Benson Wairegi said, “We are excited about this new partnership with Tiserin Capital that introduces us directly into the private equity space, an area with considerable potential in the region.” Tiserin Capital Chief Executive Officer shared his delight on the partnership saying, “We are impressed by Britam’s regional expansion, its push for innovation and the stamp of approval provided by leading investors such as IFC, Swiss-Re and AfricInvest.” Private Equity companies are largely responsible for the exponential growth in sectors such as financial services, healthcare, education, and manufacturing in most African nations. Local and international investors are moving their funds to private equity with the hope of generating higher returns than in traditional investments such as bonds, stocks, and property. In the last financial year, Britam made a huge net loss of KSh2.2 billion. The loss was largely attributed to a decline in the value of investments in the stock market. Britam’s partial acquisition of Tiserin will provide the insurer indirect ownership in the companies the PE firm invests in. Shareholders hapa wanachezwa Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,588
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Ericsson wrote:Kenya’s largest insurance company, Britam is in discussions to own part of Tiserin Capital, a Private Equity company focused on African investments. The insurer aims to spread out its investments beyond real estate, stocks, and government securities.
Although the exact details on the transaction are not clear, Britam’s board has approved the acquisition and it is set to be the largest investor in the PE firm as per the Business Daily.
Tiserin Capital invests in healthcare, technology companies, agri-business, and the food industry.
Britam’s CEO Mr. Benson Wairegi said, “We are excited about this new partnership with Tiserin Capital that introduces us directly into the private equity space, an area with considerable potential in the region.”
Tiserin Capital Chief Executive Officer shared his delight on the partnership saying, “We are impressed by Britam’s regional expansion, its push for innovation and the stamp of approval provided by leading investors such as IFC, Swiss-Re and AfricInvest.”
Private Equity companies are largely responsible for the exponential growth in sectors such as financial services, healthcare, education, and manufacturing in most African nations. Local and international investors are moving their funds to private equity with the hope of generating higher returns than in traditional investments such as bonds, stocks, and property.
In the last financial year, Britam made a huge net loss of KSh2.2 billion. The loss was largely attributed to a decline in the value of investments in the stock market. Britam’s partial acquisition of Tiserin will provide the insurer indirect ownership in the companies the PE firm invests in.
Shareholders hapa wanachezwa This sounds like Matu of Olympia and his escapades around the SA world cup. Exotic sounding investments don't lead to good returns. Britam needs a whole management shakeup, the seem to be out of touch with reality. They are too focused on being posh ignoring the reality on the ground. They thought upperhill real estate will do well but turns that location is no longer hot. Asking prices in that locale have started trending downwards. Even rental rates have stagnated. NSE is almost at the same level it was under Moi around April 1999 (index 2767) next two years the index went to all time low of 1050s. If it repeats then the shareholders here will be burnt to recognition
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/15/2013 Posts: 301
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wukan wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kenya’s largest insurance company, Britam is in discussions to own part of Tiserin Capital, a Private Equity company focused on African investments. The insurer aims to spread out its investments beyond real estate, stocks, and government securities.
Although the exact details on the transaction are not clear, Britam’s board has approved the acquisition and it is set to be the largest investor in the PE firm as per the Business Daily.
Tiserin Capital invests in healthcare, technology companies, agri-business, and the food industry.
Britam’s CEO Mr. Benson Wairegi said, “We are excited about this new partnership with Tiserin Capital that introduces us directly into the private equity space, an area with considerable potential in the region.”
Tiserin Capital Chief Executive Officer shared his delight on the partnership saying, “We are impressed by Britam’s regional expansion, its push for innovation and the stamp of approval provided by leading investors such as IFC, Swiss-Re and AfricInvest.”
Private Equity companies are largely responsible for the exponential growth in sectors such as financial services, healthcare, education, and manufacturing in most African nations. Local and international investors are moving their funds to private equity with the hope of generating higher returns than in traditional investments such as bonds, stocks, and property.
In the last financial year, Britam made a huge net loss of KSh2.2 billion. The loss was largely attributed to a decline in the value of investments in the stock market. Britam’s partial acquisition of Tiserin will provide the insurer indirect ownership in the companies the PE firm invests in.
Shareholders hapa wanachezwa This sounds like Matu of Olympia and his escapades around the SA world cup. Exotic sounding investments don't lead to good returns. Britam needs a whole management shakeup, the seem to be out of touch with reality. They are too focused on being posh ignoring the reality on the ground. They thought upperhill real estate will do well but turns that location is no longer hot. Asking prices in that locale have started trending downwards. Even rental rates have stagnated. NSE is almost at the same level it was under Moi around April 1999 (index 2767) next two years the index went to all time low of 1050s. If it repeats then the shareholders here will be burnt to recognition This is very serious. I recently asked a seasoned businessman his comparison in his business performance between Moi's time and now. He felt its worse now. Dont know how true that is statistically but wukans statement is very telling.
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