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Disband NTSA immediately!
FRM2011
#41 Posted : Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:36:01 PM
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Fullykenyan wrote:
The President should also disband the traffic department of police and re-institute it afresh. All officers should go home and re-apply for admission. Only those with clean records, should be reeinstated. Or let the president encourage only Legio Maria members, Wakorino,Kalasinga and those of dini ya kovonoko to apply. These people are known for their honesty. He should then ask for help from the EU to train them. Believe the ghost of corruption will be slayed. desperate moments call for desperate measures


I like your optimism but the figures involved are astronomical. Over 1 Billion per year. And the cash goes all the way up.

2NK sacco in Nyeri is one of the most disciplined. Their drivers have a very strict code of conduct. The owners have to maintain their vehicles to the Sacco's high standards. They have one of the best safety records. Guess what, they have a budget of Kes 5M per year for "wakubwa".

If a disciplined sacco needs to see mkubwa, how about citi hoppa? Embassava ? umoinner ?ongataline ?

There is a mhindi who runs the largest site-excavation, dumping and back-filing business in kenya. He has over 500 TATA trucks for dumping cotton soil. All his trucks have chains hanging on the front. Its not a useless decoration. Its a message to every traffic cop. And the message is "don't dare". They are never stopped by anyone in the city.

Its an amazingly efficient operation. Instructions flow downwards smoothly without any written command or signal. Cash flows upwards.

A traffic cop wouldn't waste his time arresting a matatu. Back at the station, he will be countermanded and the vehicle released. The parent SACCO has a monthly "meeting" with the boss.

That is why private motorists bear the brunt of traffic police harassment. And the magistrates and state counsel have to support the cartel. By making sure those who opt to pay fines find the process expensive, painful and cumbersome.

Mutunga attempted to make the process people-friendly. Mandatory bail for minor offences and such. The cartel fought back viciously. He had to go to Kibera to ask why his own staff were disregarding his directives.
hardwood
#42 Posted : Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:03:25 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Fullykenyan wrote:
The President should also disband the traffic department of police and re-institute it afresh. All officers should go home and re-apply for admission. Only those with clean records, should be reeinstated. Or let the president encourage only Legio Maria members, Wakorino,Kalasinga and those of dini ya kovonoko to apply. These people are known for their honesty. He should then ask for help from the EU to train them. Believe the ghost of corruption will be slayed. desperate moments call for desperate measures


I like your optimism but the figures involved are astronomical. Over 1 Billion per year. And the cash goes all the way up.

2NK sacco in Nyeri is one of the most disciplined. Their drivers have a very strict code of conduct. The owners have to maintain their vehicles to the Sacco's high standards. They have one of the best safety records. Guess what, they have a budget of Kes 5M per year for "wakubwa".

If a disciplined sacco needs to see mkubwa, how about citi hoppa? Embassava ? umoinner ?ongataline ?

There is a mhindi who runs the largest site-excavation, dumping and back-filing business in kenya. He has over 500 TATA trucks for dumping cotton soil. All his trucks have chains hanging on the front. Its not a useless decoration. Its a message to every traffic cop. And the message is "don't dare". They are never stopped by anyone in the city.

Its an amazingly efficient operation. Instructions flow downwards smoothly without any written command or signal. Cash flows upwards.

A traffic cop wouldn't waste his time arresting a matatu. Back at the station, he will be countermanded and the vehicle released. The parent SACCO has a monthly "meeting" with the boss.

That is why private motorists bear the brunt of traffic police harassment. And the magistrates and state counsel have to support the cartel. By making sure those who opt to pay fines find the process expensive, painful and cumbersome.

Mutunga attempted to make the process people-friendly. Mandatory bail for minor offences and such. The cartel fought back viciously. He had to go to Kibera to ask why his own staff were disregarding his directives.


Then he should also disband the traffic police.
mkeiy
#43 Posted : Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:15:30 AM
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hardwood wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Fullykenyan wrote:
The President should also disband the traffic department of police and re-institute it afresh. All officers should go home and re-apply for admission. Only those with clean records, should be reeinstated. Or let the president encourage only Legio Maria members, Wakorino,Kalasinga and those of dini ya kovonoko to apply. These people are known for their honesty. He should then ask for help from the EU to train them. Believe the ghost of corruption will be slayed. desperate moments call for desperate measures


I like your optimism but the figures involved are astronomical. Over 1 Billion per year. And the cash goes all the way up.

2NK sacco in Nyeri is one of the most disciplined. Their drivers have a very strict code of conduct. The owners have to maintain their vehicles to the Sacco's high standards. They have one of the best safety records. Guess what, they have a budget of Kes 5M per year for "wakubwa".

If a disciplined sacco needs to see mkubwa, how about citi hoppa? Embassava ? umoinner ?ongataline ?

There is a mhindi who runs the largest site-excavation, dumping and back-filing business in kenya. He has over 500 TATA trucks for dumping cotton soil. All his trucks have chains hanging on the front. Its not a useless decoration. Its a message to every traffic cop. And the message is "don't dare". They are never stopped by anyone in the city.

Its an amazingly efficient operation. Instructions flow downwards smoothly without any written command or signal. Cash flows upwards.

A traffic cop wouldn't waste his time arresting a matatu. Back at the station, he will be countermanded and the vehicle released. The parent SACCO has a monthly "meeting" with the boss.

That is why private motorists bear the brunt of traffic police harassment. And the magistrates and state counsel have to support the cartel. By making sure those who opt to pay fines find the process expensive, painful and cumbersome.

Mutunga attempted to make the process people-friendly. Mandatory bail for minor offences and such. The cartel fought back viciously. He had to go to Kibera to ask why his own staff were disregarding his directives.


Then he should also disband the traffic police.


For once. @hardwood. Applause Applause Applause

About 2NK. If only they could keep left unless overtaking. They insist on driving on the inner most lane, at speeds of 80kph or below.
2012
#44 Posted : Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:42:18 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
tinker wrote:
2012 wrote:
Much Know wrote:
President Kenyatta orders NTSA officers out of roads


Finally! He should appoint me his adviser.



NEMA and NCA should take note. they are other public nuisance who are only focused in taking bribes instead of doing their job.


NEMA is the worst, useless idiots!


NEMA has lost the plot completely. Their work should not be checking noisy pubs in Nairobi and licensing mourners to hold meetings??? They are the National Environment Management Authority for heaven's sake!
Our rivers are dying, concrete jungle is widening, garbage all over... Maybe it's time to disband it and let the ministry do it's job. Kudos to the ministry for the ban on polythene bags!

BBI will solve it
:)
tom_boy
#45 Posted : Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:54:44 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Swenani wrote:

The Sachangwan and salgaa accidents are more of a road design issue. If not why is it most accidents on Nakuru-Eldoret happen at this section? Do drivers decide to be less careful at these sections?


How is it a road design issue? I have used that road many many times and there is nothing wrong with the road. Why is it that the limuru - mai mahi road is safer than the relatively straight and wider salgaa road? Or mbs road at salama?

The problem with salgaa is driver indiscipline. The trucks free wheel downhill, some on the wrong lane and then the vehicles become uncontrollable. Also most drivers seem not to know that the climbing lane is for those vehicles "climbing the hill". You will find that the lane is used for overtaking by vehicles moving downhill. If all motorists kept to their lane and didn't 'overspeed' or overtake like mad men, that road would be the safest in kenya.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...3842-8yuw0pz/index.html








Its a road design issue. Which dimwit engineer designed that road. How do you provide 25km of road where one side is two lanes ( going up) and the other is just one lane ( going down) , winding. How do you expect drivers to patiently follow a tanker going down at 20kph for a whole 25km, when you have 2 lanes that are apparently empty, until you start to overtake and a tanker/ bus appears round the corner. We have road engineers who design with little regard for practicality of the road before them,thats the main cause of most of our traffic problems.

Case in point, the new ngong road will soon be a traffic nightmare. Why design a dual carriage with so many u turns over a short distance. The u turns themselves are sharp and a car must cross other lanes to complete a turn. No accerelation or deceleration lanes to get off the main road. Grossly inadequte provision for matatu stage at KNH, Traffic police areas. I wonder what these so called engineers were thinking.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
Fullykenyan
#46 Posted : Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:47:13 PM
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Location: Eastlando
hardwood wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Fullykenyan wrote:
The President should also disband the traffic department of police and re-institute it afresh. All officers should go home and re-apply for admission. Only those with clean records, should be reeinstated. Or let the president encourage only Legio Maria members, Wakorino,Kalasinga and those of dini ya kovonoko to apply. These people are known for their honesty. He should then ask for help from the EU to train them. Believe the ghost of corruption will be slayed. desperate moments call for desperate measures


I like your optimism but the figures involved are astronomical. Over 1 Billion per year. And the cash goes all the way up.

2NK sacco in Nyeri is one of the most disciplined. Their drivers have a very strict code of conduct. The owners have to maintain their vehicles to the Sacco's high standards. They have one of the best safety records. Guess what, they have a budget of Kes 5M per year for "wakubwa".

If a disciplined sacco needs to see mkubwa, how about citi hoppa? Embassava ? umoinner ?ongataline ?

There is a mhindi who runs the largest site-excavation, dumping and back-filing business in kenya. He has over 500 TATA trucks for dumping cotton soil. All his trucks have chains hanging on the front. Its not a useless decoration. Its a message to every traffic cop. And the message is "don't dare". They are never stopped by anyone in the city.

Its an amazingly efficient operation. Instructions flow downwards smoothly without any written command or signal. Cash flows upwards.

A traffic cop wouldn't waste his time arresting a matatu. Back at the station, he will be countermanded and the vehicle released. The parent SACCO has a monthly "meeting" with the boss.

That is why private motorists bear the brunt of traffic police harassment. And the magistrates and state counsel have to support the cartel. By making sure those who opt to pay fines find the process expensive, painful and cumbersome.

Mutunga attempted to make the process people-friendly. Mandatory bail for minor offences and such. The cartel fought back viciously. He had to go to Kibera to ask why his own staff were disregarding his directives.


Then he should also disband the traffic police.

There two solutions here. Onne is disband the traffic department and start afresh like i have written before or let every town look for one investor that will provide her transport system. A town will also make money out of it. I live in a town with 38,000 people, we have our own trandport system. Our own hospital that can parallel the best in Africa. Our own water system etc. The next town is only 5 minutes away and they also have their own system.
Most of my relatives work in the matatu sector and i pity the people they carry. They are always drunk and very careless. We need order and that will be brought by big investors and not matatu sacco.
It was a mistake to do away with stagecoach. Stagecoach had fares for everybody. From school going chidren to the elderly.
Matatus are also not convenient for people on wheelchairs. We should do away with them as soon as possible
2012
#47 Posted : Friday, January 19, 2018 1:21:28 PM
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Imagine the number of deaths we would have had from road accidents in December 2017 if SGR wasn't there?
2017 topped the charts as one of the worst year of road carnage yet a huge percentage of commuters to one of the most dangerous routes by road was not really included. How terrible it would have been.

BBI will solve it
:)
FundamentAli
#48 Posted : Tuesday, March 19, 2019 4:46:46 PM
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These guys are the most incompetent. There is a shortage of logbooks of all things

https://www.businessdailyafrica....030252-mce1iz/index.html
thuks
#49 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2019 5:17:25 PM
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doubletap
#50 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2019 6:10:23 PM
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[quote=thuks]Corrupt drivers beware
https://www.standardmedi...ison-for-offering-bribe[/quote]

From the article:

The new rules by KRA are meant to curb tax evasion by unscrupulous traders who dump imported cars in the local market after falsely declaring that they are destined for neighboring landlocked countries Uganda and Rwanda.


How does this work... Thought to get the sticker you have to pay up duties etc and the log book will be picked up later when ready. As in the log book is a physical item that matches the information held by NTSA or am I wrong?
You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else - Albert Einstein
murchr
#51 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2019 6:31:44 PM
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