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EA Cables FY17
Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Friday, May 04, 2018 6:18:09 PM
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VituVingiSana
#2 Posted : Friday, May 04, 2018 7:40:05 PM
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Chefs at work!
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Metch
#3 Posted : Friday, May 04, 2018 7:43:22 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:


The whole alphabet was deployed here and I got nothing. Someone break it down for me. Are the results too salty to table?
Start!
Metch
#4 Posted : Friday, May 04, 2018 7:46:02 PM
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Metch wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:


The whole alphabet was deployed here and I got nothing. Someone break it down for me. Are the results too salty to table?

Or are we saying past results were cooked and this is to set the record straight
Is there a precedent to this?
Start!
Metch
#5 Posted : Friday, May 04, 2018 7:51:52 PM
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Metch wrote:
Metch wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:


The whole alphabet was deployed here and I got nothing. Someone break it down for me. Are the results too salty to table?

Or are we saying past results were cooked and this is to set the record straight
Is there a precedent to this?

The TCL statement is quite telling. So.. We have an audit at CABL that has delayed the declaration of group results. That can't be good
Start!
Pesa Nane
#6 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2018 10:26:25 PM
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After much delay.... Sad Sad


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Pesa Nane
#7 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2018 10:49:00 PM
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Summary Financial Statements
The summary financial statements do not contain all the disclosures required by the IFRS and in the manner required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015. In addition, the summary directors' remuneration report does not contain all the disclosures required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015.

Blah blah....

The report also includes:
* A material uncertainty related to going concern section that draws attention to Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements. Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements indicates that East African Cables Plc incurred a loss of Ksh. 663 million during the year ended 31 Dec 2017, and as of that date, East Africa Cables Plc's current liabilities exceeded the current assets by Kshs. 1.59 billion. These events or conditions, along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements, indicate that a material uncertainty exists that may cast significant doubt on East Africa Cables Plc's ability to continue as a going concern.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
obiero
#8 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:13:16 AM
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The economy is dying..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Angelica _ann
#9 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:15:24 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
Summary Financial Statements
The summary financial statements do not contain all the disclosures required by the IFRS and in the manner required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015. In addition, the summary directors' remuneration report does not contain all the disclosures required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015.

Blah blah....

The report also includes:
* A material uncertainty related to going concern section that draws attention to Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements. Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements indicates that East African Cables Plc incurred a loss of Ksh. 663 million during the year ended 31 Dec 2017, and as of that date, East Africa Cables Plc's current liabilities exceeded the current assets by Kshs. 1.59 billion. These events or conditions, along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements, indicate that a material uncertainty exists that may cast significant doubt on East Africa Cables Plc's ability to continue as a going concern.


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Ericsson
#10 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2018 9:57:14 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
Summary Financial Statements
The summary financial statements do not contain all the disclosures required by the IFRS and in the manner required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015. In addition, the summary directors' remuneration report does not contain all the disclosures required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015.

Blah blah....

The report also includes:
* A material uncertainty related to going concern section that draws attention to Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements. Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements indicates that East African Cables Plc incurred a loss of Ksh. 663 million during the year ended 31 Dec 2017, and as of that date, East Africa Cables Plc's current liabilities exceeded the current assets by Kshs. 1.59 billion. These events or conditions, along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements, indicate that a material uncertainty exists that may cast significant doubt on East Africa Cables Plc's ability to continue as a going concern.


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Debt will kill companies here in Kenya 🇰🇪.
Interest expense of ksh.533mn up from 258mn.
What's the size of the loan
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obiero
#11 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2018 10:12:44 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
Summary Financial Statements
The summary financial statements do not contain all the disclosures required by the IFRS and in the manner required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015. In addition, the summary directors' remuneration report does not contain all the disclosures required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015.

Blah blah....

The report also includes:
* A material uncertainty related to going concern section that draws attention to Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements. Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements indicates that East African Cables Plc incurred a loss of Ksh. 663 million during the year ended 31 Dec 2017, and as of that date, East Africa Cables Plc's current liabilities exceeded the current assets by Kshs. 1.59 billion. These events or conditions, along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements, indicate that a material uncertainty exists that may cast significant doubt on East Africa Cables Plc's ability to continue as a going concern.


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Debt will kill companies here in Kenya 🇰🇪.
Interest expense of ksh.533mn up from 258mn.
What's the size of the loan

And the two men want to repeal the rate cap???????

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Pesa Nane
#12 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2018 10:18:22 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
Summary Financial Statements
The summary financial statements do not contain all the disclosures required by the IFRS and in the manner required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015. In addition, the summary directors' remuneration report does not contain all the disclosures required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015.

Blah blah....

The report also includes:
* A material uncertainty related to going concern section that draws attention to Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements. Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements indicates that East African Cables Plc incurred a loss of Ksh. 663 million during the year ended 31 Dec 2017, and as of that date, East Africa Cables Plc's current liabilities exceeded the current assets by Kshs. 1.59 billion. These events or conditions, along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements, indicate that a material uncertainty exists that may cast significant doubt on East Africa Cables Plc's ability to continue as a going concern.


Crazy Drool Drool Sad


Debt will kill companies here in Kenya 🇰🇪.
Interest expense of ksh.533mn up from 258mn.
What's the size of the loan


Hehe, Debt will kill and they are crying for more at higher rates!

Quote:
The group faced headwinds in 2017 due to unfavourable political environment and prevailing challenges of access to credit due to effects of interest rate capping that persisted in our main market Kennya

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
jgithige
#13 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2018 10:43:38 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
Summary Financial Statements
The summary financial statements do not contain all the disclosures required by the IFRS and in the manner required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015. In addition, the summary directors' remuneration report does not contain all the disclosures required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015.

Blah blah....

The report also includes:
* A material uncertainty related to going concern section that draws attention to Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements. Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements indicates that East African Cables Plc incurred a loss of Ksh. 663 million during the year ended 31 Dec 2017, and as of that date, East Africa Cables Plc's current liabilities exceeded the current assets by Kshs. 1.59 billion. These events or conditions, along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements, indicate that a material uncertainty exists that may cast significant doubt on East Africa Cables Plc's ability to continue as a going concern.


Crazy Drool Drool Sad


Debt will kill companies here in Kenya 🇰🇪.
Interest expense of ksh.533mn up from 258mn.
What's the size of the loan


Hehe, Debt will kill and they are crying for more at higher rates!

Quote:
The group faced headwinds in 2017 due to unfavourable political environment and prevailing challenges of access to credit due to effects of interest rate capping that persisted in our main market Kennya



Not forgetting the counterfeit menace from our chinese partners
"Blowing out someone else candle won't make yours shine brighter"-Anonymous
Metch
#14 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2018 12:33:39 PM
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Location: Mombasa, Kenya
jgithige wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
Summary Financial Statements
The summary financial statements do not contain all the disclosures required by the IFRS and in the manner required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015. In addition, the summary directors' remuneration report does not contain all the disclosures required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015.

Blah blah....

The report also includes:
* A material uncertainty related to going concern section that draws attention to Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements. Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements indicates that East African Cables Plc incurred a loss of Ksh. 663 million during the year ended 31 Dec 2017, and as of that date, East Africa Cables Plc's current liabilities exceeded the current assets by Kshs. 1.59 billion. These events or conditions, along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements, indicate that a material uncertainty exists that may cast significant doubt on East Africa Cables Plc's ability to continue as a going concern.


Crazy Drool Drool Sad


Debt will kill companies here in Kenya 🇰🇪.
Interest expense of ksh.533mn up from 258mn.
What's the size of the loan


Hehe, Debt will kill and they are crying for more at higher rates!

Quote:
The group faced headwinds in 2017 due to unfavourable political environment and prevailing challenges of access to credit due to effects of interest rate capping that persisted in our main market Kennya



Not forgetting the counterfeit menace from our chinese partners


This is bad. Not ARM bad or KQ bad but still bad.
And they have blamed anything and everything except management
Start!
Angelica _ann
#15 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2018 12:56:51 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,908
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
Summary Financial Statements
The summary financial statements do not contain all the disclosures required by the IFRS and in the manner required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015. In addition, the summary directors' remuneration report does not contain all the disclosures required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015.

Blah blah....

The report also includes:
* A material uncertainty related to going concern section that draws attention to Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements. Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements indicates that East African Cables Plc incurred a loss of Ksh. 663 million during the year ended 31 Dec 2017, and as of that date, East Africa Cables Plc's current liabilities exceeded the current assets by Kshs. 1.59 billion. These events or conditions, along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements, indicate that a material uncertainty exists that may cast significant doubt on East Africa Cables Plc's ability to continue as a going concern.


Crazy Drool Drool Sad


Debt will kill companies here in Kenya 🇰🇪.
Interest expense of ksh.533mn up from 258mn.
What's the size of the loan


Hehe, Debt will kill and they are crying for more at higher rates!

Quote:
The group faced headwinds in 2017 due to unfavourable political environment and prevailing challenges of access to credit due to effects of interest rate capping that persisted in our main market Kennya



They could be right looking at the bigger picture. Their partners, customers & consumers of their products are affected by rate cap, so there is a spiral effect that affects their business negatively!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
murchr
#16 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:15:24 PM
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This one wazuans were warned. Imports from China too are killing the company
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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obiero
#17 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:31:23 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,506
Location: nairobi
Metch wrote:
jgithige wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Quote:
Summary Financial Statements
The summary financial statements do not contain all the disclosures required by the IFRS and in the manner required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015. In addition, the summary directors' remuneration report does not contain all the disclosures required by the Kenyan Companies Act, 2015.

Blah blah....

The report also includes:
* A material uncertainty related to going concern section that draws attention to Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements. Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements indicates that East African Cables Plc incurred a loss of Ksh. 663 million during the year ended 31 Dec 2017, and as of that date, East Africa Cables Plc's current liabilities exceeded the current assets by Kshs. 1.59 billion. These events or conditions, along with other matters as set forth in Note 2(f) of the audited consolidated financial statements, indicate that a material uncertainty exists that may cast significant doubt on East Africa Cables Plc's ability to continue as a going concern.


Crazy Drool Drool Sad


Debt will kill companies here in Kenya 🇰🇪.
Interest expense of ksh.533mn up from 258mn.
What's the size of the loan


Hehe, Debt will kill and they are crying for more at higher rates!

Quote:
The group faced headwinds in 2017 due to unfavourable political environment and prevailing challenges of access to credit due to effects of interest rate capping that persisted in our main market Kennya



Not forgetting the counterfeit menace from our chinese partners


This is bad. Not ARM bad or KQ bad but still bad.
And they have blamed anything and everything except management

KQ is back in profitability. You know where you heard is first..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Pesa Nane
#18 Posted : Monday, March 18, 2019 4:59:43 PM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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