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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Wasn't Uhuru. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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I have found myself feeling pity for Uhuru, a man I refused to vote for in 2013 and campaigned against in 2017.
When you interact with the people who form the bedrock of his political support, you come across anger and frustration that is almost reaching scary levels.
The economy has tanked badly and I doubt Uhuru knows this. His big 4 is dead even before it starts. Even if he fires all corrupt guys in government and hires clean guys, there is no money to finance the big 4.
For every 100 bob KRA collects debt servicing takes 38 bob. Salaries, pension and counties take the rest. We have maxed out on borrowing. actually we have to restructure some facilities.
In my home county Nyeri, milk prices have dropped from a high of 38 to around 28 bob. And this is the dry season. Farmers are scared stiff what will happen after the rains when we have a milk glut. Broiler and poultry farmers have seen their investments go up in flames. Coffee is history. The new goldmine is macadamia and the prices are stuck at 140 from a high of 220 last season.
Uhuru doesn't have a chance to leave an economic legacy. He doesn't have the willingness or moral authority to fight corruption. He spent the first term undermining the new constitution so he can't leave a legacy of setting a constitutional foundation for Kenya. From where shall he craft his legacy ?
When historians finally write about his term in office, it is doubtful Kenya will ever have a worse presidency than this.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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FRM2011 wrote: I have found myself feeling pity for Uhuru, a man I refused to vote for in 2013 and campaigned against in 2017.
When you interact with the people who form the bedrock of his political support, you come across anger and frustration that is almost reaching scary levels.
The economy has tanked badly and I doubt Uhuru knows this. His big 4 is dead even before it starts. Even if he fires all corrupt guys in government and hires clean guys, there is no money to finance the big 4.
For every 100 bob KRA collects debt servicing takes 38 bob. Salaries, pension and counties take the rest. We have maxed out on borrowing. actually we have to restructure some facilities.
In my home county Nyeri, milk prices have dropped from a high of 38 to around 28 bob. And this is the dry season. Farmers are scared stiff what will happen after the rains when we have a milk glut. Broiler and poultry farmers have seen their investments go up in flames. Coffee is history. The new goldmine is macadamia and the prices are stuck at 140 from a high of 220 last season.
Uhuru doesn't have a chance to leave an economic legacy. He doesn't have the willingness or moral authority to fight corruption. He spent the first term undermining the new constitution so he can't leave a legacy of setting a constitutional foundation for Kenya. From where shall he craft his legacy ?
When historians finally write about his term in office, it is doubtful Kenya will ever have a worse presidency than this.
Btw, ebu explain this milk manenos as I don't get. I saw the CS in today's dailies saying the price must go down? Yet the price is normal and customers are not even complaining. Have they imported milk or what? It doesn't make sense to me. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/8/2010 Posts: 281
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FRM2011 wrote: I have found myself feeling pity for Uhuru, a man I refused to vote for in 2013 and campaigned against in 2017.
When you interact with the people who form the bedrock of his political support, you come across anger and frustration that is almost reaching scary levels.
The economy has tanked badly and I doubt Uhuru knows this. His big 4 is dead even before it starts. Even if he fires all corrupt guys in government and hires clean guys, there is no money to finance the big 4.
For every 100 bob KRA collects debt servicing takes 38 bob. Salaries, pension and counties take the rest. We have maxed out on borrowing. actually we have to restructure some facilities.
In my home county Nyeri, milk prices have dropped from a high of 38 to around 28 bob. And this is the dry season. Farmers are scared stiff what will happen after the rains when we have a milk glut. Broiler and poultry farmers have seen their investments go up in flames. Coffee is history. The new goldmine is macadamia and the prices are stuck at 140 from a high of 220 last season.
Uhuru doesn't have a chance to leave an economic legacy. He doesn't have the willingness or moral authority to fight corruption. He spent the first term undermining the new constitution so he can't leave a legacy of setting a constitutional foundation for Kenya. From where shall he craft his legacy ?
When historians finally write about his term in office, it is doubtful Kenya will ever have a worse presidency than this.
Unconfirmed hearsay goes like; Note competition for raw material is what was making milk prices goes up especially around Kiambu, Limuru areas. Then throw in a spin off strategy; a family purchase most of the dairy processing firms. Merge them with their own. Having obtained a monopoly, dictates the price they want to buy from farmers and make a kill in retail! Same thing might happen to banks; reduce interest rate to make sure you curtail profits. Small banks drown in operation costs etc and sell out to you at your terms. Marshall all the struggling banks into your portfolio. Then abolish interest caps citing unworkable policies and swim in crazy profits for the rest of your life!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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2012 wrote:FRM2011 wrote: I have found myself feeling pity for Uhuru, a man I refused to vote for in 2013 and campaigned against in 2017.
When you interact with the people who form the bedrock of his political support, you come across anger and frustration that is almost reaching scary levels.
The economy has tanked badly and I doubt Uhuru knows this. His big 4 is dead even before it starts. Even if he fires all corrupt guys in government and hires clean guys, there is no money to finance the big 4.
For every 100 bob KRA collects debt servicing takes 38 bob. Salaries, pension and counties take the rest. We have maxed out on borrowing. actually we have to restructure some facilities.
In my home county Nyeri, milk prices have dropped from a high of 38 to around 28 bob. And this is the dry season. Farmers are scared stiff what will happen after the rains when we have a milk glut. Broiler and poultry farmers have seen their investments go up in flames. Coffee is history. The new goldmine is macadamia and the prices are stuck at 140 from a high of 220 last season.
Uhuru doesn't have a chance to leave an economic legacy. He doesn't have the willingness or moral authority to fight corruption. He spent the first term undermining the new constitution so he can't leave a legacy of setting a constitutional foundation for Kenya. From where shall he craft his legacy ?
When historians finally write about his term in office, it is doubtful Kenya will ever have a worse presidency than this.
Btw, ebu explain this milk manenos as I don't get. I saw the CS in today's dailies saying the price must go down? Yet the price is normal and customers are not even complaining. Have they imported milk or what? It doesn't make sense to me. They must have imported 1,000s of tonnes of powder milk. In Nyeri, between Jan-March all processors fight over milk as production dips due to lack of fodder. This pushes the farmgate prices higher giving farmers a chance to buy hay from the big farmers in neighbouring Laikipia county. This time, they are not interested in our milk even as production drops. Prices have gone down below the break-even point. Its a sad state of affairs.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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FRM2011 wrote: I have found myself feeling pity for Uhuru, a man I refused to vote for in 2013 and campaigned against in 2017.
When you interact with the people who form the bedrock of his political support, you come across anger and frustration that is almost reaching scary levels.
The economy has tanked badly and I doubt Uhuru knows this. His big 4 is dead even before it starts. Even if he fires all corrupt guys in government and hires clean guys, there is no money to finance the big 4.
For every 100 bob KRA collects debt servicing takes 38 bob. Salaries, pension and counties take the rest. We have maxed out on borrowing. actually we have to restructure some facilities.
In my home county Nyeri, milk prices have dropped from a high of 38 to around 28 bob. And this is the dry season. Farmers are scared stiff what will happen after the rains when we have a milk glut. Broiler and poultry farmers have seen their investments go up in flames. Coffee is history. The new goldmine is macadamia and the prices are stuck at 140 from a high of 220 last season.
Uhuru doesn't have a chance to leave an economic legacy. He doesn't have the willingness or moral authority to fight corruption. He spent the first term undermining the new constitution so he can't leave a legacy of setting a constitutional foundation for Kenya. From where shall he craft his legacy ?
When historians finally write about his term in office, it is doubtful Kenya will ever have a worse presidency than this.
Huko blue section people(myself to be precise) have been waiting for the bull lakini everyday it is doom and gloom as far as economy is concerned. Todays newspapers says cement consumption has gone down.The papers are also reporting that 38% of KRA revenues are going to pay debts for money that has been stolen. Njiraini now wants to tax Lipa na Mpesa paybill after taxing airtime and Mpesa 2018/2019. Saccos are also a big tax target going forward. NSSF statutory reduction is now up to 2000 bob from 200 bob. This is money Atwoli and friends at NSSF are going to fatten-up with proper.They painted thika rd. pink..They even introduced NYS buses for public transport.etcc...i think we need a new thread of Uhuru's flat failure. Meanwhile big 4 now sounds like a tired line. I said it here that big 4 is another hot air. Hata ground breaking ya nyumba za mabati has not happened.Uhuru should just go back to Ruto and together continue insulting Baba in matangas and stop pretending to be looking for legacy. Legacy to me is money in my pocket. Hiyo ingine ni yao Let kumira kumira thurakus eat their jeuri...wacha okuyo na kaleos wakule jeuri yao ya 2017 Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/17/2010 Posts: 110 Location: Nairobi
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Fyatu wrote:FRM2011 wrote: I have found myself feeling pity for Uhuru, a man I refused to vote for in 2013 and campaigned against in 2017.
When you interact with the people who form the bedrock of his political support, you come across anger and frustration that is almost reaching scary levels.
The economy has tanked badly and I doubt Uhuru knows this. His big 4 is dead even before it starts. Even if he fires all corrupt guys in government and hires clean guys, there is no money to finance the big 4.
For every 100 bob KRA collects debt servicing takes 38 bob. Salaries, pension and counties take the rest. We have maxed out on borrowing. actually we have to restructure some facilities.
In my home county Nyeri, milk prices have dropped from a high of 38 to around 28 bob. And this is the dry season. Farmers are scared stiff what will happen after the rains when we have a milk glut. Broiler and poultry farmers have seen their investments go up in flames. Coffee is history. The new goldmine is macadamia and the prices are stuck at 140 from a high of 220 last season.
Uhuru doesn't have a chance to leave an economic legacy. He doesn't have the willingness or moral authority to fight corruption. He spent the first term undermining the new constitution so he can't leave a legacy of setting a constitutional foundation for Kenya. From where shall he craft his legacy ?
When historians finally write about his term in office, it is doubtful Kenya will ever have a worse presidency than this.
Huko blue section people(myself to be precise) have been waiting for the bull lakini everyday it is doom and gloom as far as economy is concerned. Todays newspapers says cement consumption has gone down.The papers are also reporting that 38% of KRA revenues are going to pay debts for money that has been stolen. Njiraini now wants to tax Lipa na Mpesa paybill after taxing airtime and Mpesa 2018/2019. Saccos are also a big tax target going forward. NSSF statutory reduction is now up to 2000 bob from 200 bob. This is money Atwoli and friends at NSSF are going to fatten-up with proper.They painted thika rd. pink..They even introduced NYS buses for public transport.etcc...i think we need a new thread of Uhuru's flat failure. Meanwhile big 4 now sounds like a tired line. I said it here that big 4 is another hot air. Hata ground breaking ya nyumba za mabati has not happened.Uhuru should just go back to Ruto and together continue insulting Baba in matangas and stop pretending to be looking for legacy. Legacy to me is money in my pocket. Hiyo ingine ni yao Let kumira kumira thurakus eat their jeuri...wacha okuyo na kaleos wakule jeuri yao ya 2017 so people here still believe that presidents and governments make a country or an individual rich? The work of government in a developing country is to tax people at the highest rate it can get away with while providing the lowest possible level of social, security and enabling environment it can get away with.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2010 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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Conquestador wrote:Fyatu wrote:FRM2011 wrote: I have found myself feeling pity for Uhuru, a man I refused to vote for in 2013 and campaigned against in 2017.
When you interact with the people who form the bedrock of his political support, you come across anger and frustration that is almost reaching scary levels.
The economy has tanked badly and I doubt Uhuru knows this. His big 4 is dead even before it starts. Even if he fires all corrupt guys in government and hires clean guys, there is no money to finance the big 4.
For every 100 bob KRA collects debt servicing takes 38 bob. Salaries, pension and counties take the rest. We have maxed out on borrowing. actually we have to restructure some facilities.
In my home county Nyeri, milk prices have dropped from a high of 38 to around 28 bob. And this is the dry season. Farmers are scared stiff what will happen after the rains when we have a milk glut. Broiler and poultry farmers have seen their investments go up in flames. Coffee is history. The new goldmine is macadamia and the prices are stuck at 140 from a high of 220 last season.
Uhuru doesn't have a chance to leave an economic legacy. He doesn't have the willingness or moral authority to fight corruption. He spent the first term undermining the new constitution so he can't leave a legacy of setting a constitutional foundation for Kenya. From where shall he craft his legacy ?
When historians finally write about his term in office, it is doubtful Kenya will ever have a worse presidency than this.
Huko blue section people(myself to be precise) have been waiting for the bull lakini everyday it is doom and gloom as far as economy is concerned. Todays newspapers says cement consumption has gone down.The papers are also reporting that 38% of KRA revenues are going to pay debts for money that has been stolen. Njiraini now wants to tax Lipa na Mpesa paybill after taxing airtime and Mpesa 2018/2019. Saccos are also a big tax target going forward. NSSF statutory reduction is now up to 2000 bob from 200 bob. This is money Atwoli and friends at NSSF are going to fatten-up with proper.They painted thika rd. pink..They even introduced NYS buses for public transport.etcc...i think we need a new thread of Uhuru's flat failure. Meanwhile big 4 now sounds like a tired line. I said it here that big 4 is another hot air. Hata ground breaking ya nyumba za mabati has not happened.Uhuru should just go back to Ruto and together continue insulting Baba in matangas and stop pretending to be looking for legacy. Legacy to me is money in my pocket. Hiyo ingine ni yao Let kumira kumira thurakus eat their jeuri...wacha okuyo na kaleos wakule jeuri yao ya 2017 so people here still believe that presidents and governments make a country or an individual rich? The work of government in a developing country is to tax people at the highest rate it can get away with while providing the lowest possible level of social, security and enabling environment it can get away with. Trade PS (Dr. Kiptoo) was in the media explaining why they cannot do anything to help poultry farmers who are under attack from EAC farmers. The end result, poultry farming and supporting business will close shop leading to massive job loses especially in Kiambu (Thika & Wangige will be worst hit). When govt does not protect few available commercial activities, then it must deal with less tax, unemployed youths,increased insecurity, etc. ....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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tinker wrote:Conquestador wrote:Fyatu wrote:FRM2011 wrote: I have found myself feeling pity for Uhuru, a man I refused to vote for in 2013 and campaigned against in 2017.
When you interact with the people who form the bedrock of his political support, you come across anger and frustration that is almost reaching scary levels.
The economy has tanked badly and I doubt Uhuru knows this. His big 4 is dead even before it starts. Even if he fires all corrupt guys in government and hires clean guys, there is no money to finance the big 4.
For every 100 bob KRA collects debt servicing takes 38 bob. Salaries, pension and counties take the rest. We have maxed out on borrowing. actually we have to restructure some facilities.
In my home county Nyeri, milk prices have dropped from a high of 38 to around 28 bob. And this is the dry season. Farmers are scared stiff what will happen after the rains when we have a milk glut. Broiler and poultry farmers have seen their investments go up in flames. Coffee is history. The new goldmine is macadamia and the prices are stuck at 140 from a high of 220 last season.
Uhuru doesn't have a chance to leave an economic legacy. He doesn't have the willingness or moral authority to fight corruption. He spent the first term undermining the new constitution so he can't leave a legacy of setting a constitutional foundation for Kenya. From where shall he craft his legacy ?
When historians finally write about his term in office, it is doubtful Kenya will ever have a worse presidency than this.
Huko blue section people(myself to be precise) have been waiting for the bull lakini everyday it is doom and gloom as far as economy is concerned. Todays newspapers says cement consumption has gone down.The papers are also reporting that 38% of KRA revenues are going to pay debts for money that has been stolen. Njiraini now wants to tax Lipa na Mpesa paybill after taxing airtime and Mpesa 2018/2019. Saccos are also a big tax target going forward. NSSF statutory reduction is now up to 2000 bob from 200 bob. This is money Atwoli and friends at NSSF are going to fatten-up with proper.They painted thika rd. pink..They even introduced NYS buses for public transport.etcc...i think we need a new thread of Uhuru's flat failure. Meanwhile big 4 now sounds like a tired line. I said it here that big 4 is another hot air. Hata ground breaking ya nyumba za mabati has not happened.Uhuru should just go back to Ruto and together continue insulting Baba in matangas and stop pretending to be looking for legacy. Legacy to me is money in my pocket. Hiyo ingine ni yao Let kumira kumira thurakus eat their jeuri...wacha okuyo na kaleos wakule jeuri yao ya 2017 so people here still believe that presidents and governments make a country or an individual rich? The work of government in a developing country is to tax people at the highest rate it can get away with while providing the lowest possible level of social, security and enabling environment it can get away with. Trade PS (Dr. Kiptoo) was in the media explaining why they cannot do anything to help poultry farmers who are under attack from EAC farmers. The end result, poultry farming and supporting business will close shop leading to massive job loses especially in Kiambu (Thika & Wangige will be worst hit). When govt does not protect few available commercial activities, then it must deal with less tax, unemployed youths,increased insecurity, etc. Why is the egg farmer not able to compete with the other egg farmer from Uganda? What differentiates the egg farmer from Kirinyaga of that of Kiambu? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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