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wukan wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
Yaani Uhuru makes one appointment of Kinoti and the DCI roars back to life as the one institution that can take on the hitherto untouchables !!!! Had it been Muhoro's time, 10M bribe and the case disappears.
Anyone who has read crime fiction knows criminals always get caught because of one mistake; they assume they are smarter than they actually are.
A former NIS guy organizes the hit, recruits rogue cops and tells them they are going to kill a criminal. They were not expecting to be up against a renewed DCI with officers who gather and analyze evidence methodically. During Muhoro's time, they could just have arrested a known criminal in Kayole, execute him and plant the killer gun on them. Case closed.
Aren't we lucky to be living in this Kenya ?
Uhuru has done well with his security sector reforms from Boinet, Haji, Kinoti. This will be his major legacy. DCI is slowly regaining its former glory. Our judiciary is where the rotten apples are still left. I have also noticed a trend where suspects are now coming out clean and telling investigators on the ring leaders without the torture that used to be prevalent. Criminals will now be deterred knowing there is no honor among kiriminos. The institutional capacity of the DCI was always there. It was a leadership problem. When a young internal auditor at Nakumatt was shot in broad daylight, someone powerful put pressure on Muhoro. The case was wrapped up in 2 months with water-tight evidence. Sadly, we are still in Maraga courts.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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FRM2011 wrote:wukan wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
Yaani Uhuru makes one appointment of Kinoti and the DCI roars back to life as the one institution that can take on the hitherto untouchables !!!! Had it been Muhoro's time, 10M bribe and the case disappears.
Anyone who has read crime fiction knows criminals always get caught because of one mistake; they assume they are smarter than they actually are.
A former NIS guy organizes the hit, recruits rogue cops and tells them they are going to kill a criminal. They were not expecting to be up against a renewed DCI with officers who gather and analyze evidence methodically. During Muhoro's time, they could just have arrested a known criminal in Kayole, execute him and plant the killer gun on them. Case closed.
Aren't we lucky to be living in this Kenya ?
Uhuru has done well with his security sector reforms from Boinet, Haji, Kinoti. This will be his major legacy. DCI is slowly regaining its former glory. Our judiciary is where the rotten apples are still left. I have also noticed a trend where suspects are now coming out clean and telling investigators on the ring leaders without the torture that used to be prevalent. Criminals will now be deterred knowing there is no honor among kiriminos. The institutional capacity of the DCI was always there. It was a leadership problem. When a young internal auditor at Nakumatt was shot in broad daylight, someone powerful put pressure on Muhoro. The case was wrapped up in 2 months with water-tight evidence. Sadly, we are still in Maraga courts. @FRM, I'm glad to hear that something was done about the internal auditor. Is it possible to give me more details, maybe even a link? I'll appreciate greatly...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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FRM2011 wrote:
Yaani Uhuru makes one appointment of Kinoti and the DCI roars back to life as the one institution that can take on the hitherto untouchables !!!! Had it been Muhoro's time, 10M bribe and the case disappears.
Anyone who has read crime fiction knows criminals always get caught because of one mistake; they assume they are smarter than they actually are.
A former NIS guy organizes the hit, recruits rogue cops and tells them they are going to kill a criminal. They were not expecting to be up against a renewed DCI with officers who gather and analyze evidence methodically. During Muhoro's time, they could just have arrested a known criminal in Kayole, execute him and plant the killer gun on them. Case closed.
Aren't we lucky to be living in this Kenya ?
interesting, but figures would be better to give the actual scenario, like how many convictions did muhoro vs kinoti achieve at given timelines - I remember when mutua started his term and everyone thought he was god send, but it happens he was very good at communicating.
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
Yaani Uhuru makes one appointment of Kinoti and the DCI roars back to life as the one institution that can take on the hitherto untouchables !!!! Had it been Muhoro's time, 10M bribe and the case disappears.
Anyone who has read crime fiction knows criminals always get caught because of one mistake; they assume they are smarter than they actually are.
A former NIS guy organizes the hit, recruits rogue cops and tells them they are going to kill a criminal. They were not expecting to be up against a renewed DCI with officers who gather and analyze evidence methodically. During Muhoro's time, they could just have arrested a known criminal in Kayole, execute him and plant the killer gun on them. Case closed.
Aren't we lucky to be living in this Kenya ?
interesting, but figures would be better to give the actual scenario, like how many convictions did muhoro vs kinoti achieve at given timelines - I remember when mutua started his term and everyone thought he was god send, but it happens he was very good at communicating. Today, someone stole 1.7m, found guilty but was fined 600k. What justice is this? Maragas courts are to behold in dispensing justice. I care!
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 784 Location: ant hill - red hill
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Impunity wrote:Swenani wrote:safariant wrote:Waah, marriage is really hard and unpredictable Tumefika kwa copy pasting comments? I saw that too...very lazy.  Oi The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Her mugshot is out "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 467 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Her mugshot is out
What if one refused to hold the mugshot board? I mean you are already in a police cell, It is not like they will release you if you hold it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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kawi254 wrote:murchr wrote:Her mugshot is out
What if one refused to hold the mugshot board? I mean you are already in a police cell, It is not like they will release you if you hold it. Have you been in a police cell? The cops will just ask hardened criminals to 'persuade' you! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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kaka2za wrote:kawi254 wrote:murchr wrote:Her mugshot is out
What if one refused to hold the mugshot board? I mean you are already in a police cell, It is not like they will release you if you hold it. Have you been in a police cell? The cops will just ask hardened criminals to 'persuade' you! All suspects are presumed innocent until proven guilty. So hii maneno ya splashing mugshots of individuals on the internet should stop. What if a suspect is found innocent while his name and career prospects have already been messed up by those online photos? Can you imagine you forgetting your driving license at home, drinking past mututho hours, alcoblow or some other minor offence and then you are booked at the station and your mugshot taken and uploaded on the internet where it will reside forever? Then when your current or future employer, client, kids, embassy visa officials etc google your name they find you holding that huge board saying you are a criminal? Surely this must stop.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,589
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hardwood wrote:
All suspects are presumed innocent until proven guilty. So hii maneno ya splashing mugshots of individuals on the internet should stop. What if a suspect is found innocent while his name and career prospects have already been messed up by those online photos?
Can you imagine you forgetting your driving license at home, drinking past mututho hours, alcoblow or some other minor offence and then you are booked at the station and your mugshot taken and uploaded on the internet where it will reside forever? Then when your current or future employer, client, kids, embassy visa officials etc google your name they find you holding that huge board saying you are a criminal? Surely this must stop.
presumption of innocence is not the same thing as being innocent. A suspect is never found innocent the courts will find "not guilty". Mugshots are important for 'marking' entering someone in the system and following up on their conduct over time. Those who get onto the system even for minor offences tend to re-offend over time. That's how you get a rap sheet and how the police know all the crooks in/from your village. Your potential employer can also ask for a Certificate of good conduct. @maka in post #3 tells you that the wife of the deceased was known as live wire from her college days. If she had been 'marked' back then it would have been easier to stop her from being a magistrate. I wouldn't be surprised if she had numerous misconduct reports in the judiciary. Finally would you let your kids play with someone who was arrested for defilement and found "innocent" by the court?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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tycho wrote:FRM2011 wrote:wukan wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
Yaani Uhuru makes one appointment of Kinoti and the DCI roars back to life as the one institution that can take on the hitherto untouchables !!!! Had it been Muhoro's time, 10M bribe and the case disappears.
Anyone who has read crime fiction knows criminals always get caught because of one mistake; they assume they are smarter than they actually are.
A former NIS guy organizes the hit, recruits rogue cops and tells them they are going to kill a criminal. They were not expecting to be up against a renewed DCI with officers who gather and analyze evidence methodically. During Muhoro's time, they could just have arrested a known criminal in Kayole, execute him and plant the killer gun on them. Case closed.
Aren't we lucky to be living in this Kenya ?
Uhuru has done well with his security sector reforms from Boinet, Haji, Kinoti. This will be his major legacy. DCI is slowly regaining its former glory. Our judiciary is where the rotten apples are still left. I have also noticed a trend where suspects are now coming out clean and telling investigators on the ring leaders without the torture that used to be prevalent. Criminals will now be deterred knowing there is no honor among kiriminos. The institutional capacity of the DCI was always there. It was a leadership problem. When a young internal auditor at Nakumatt was shot in broad daylight, someone powerful put pressure on Muhoro. The case was wrapped up in 2 months with water-tight evidence. Sadly, we are still in Maraga courts. @FRM, I'm glad to hear that something was done about the internal auditor. Is it possible to give me more details, maybe even a link? I'll appreciate greatly... https://www.sde.co.ke/th...killed-nakumatt-auditor
https://www.standardmedi...fter-receiving-sh80-000
@tycho, cops used the boda-boda number plates captured by the CCTV cameras. The bodaboda guy was traced to Kangemi doing his usual boda business. An analysis of his phone calls and movement revealed the evil trio of him, a nakumatt manager and a cop who was the hitman.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2010 Posts: 454 Location: Nairobi
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wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:
All suspects are presumed innocent until proven guilty. So hii maneno ya splashing mugshots of individuals on the internet should stop. What if a suspect is found innocent while his name and career prospects have already been messed up by those online photos?
Can you imagine you forgetting your driving license at home, drinking past mututho hours, alcoblow or some other minor offence and then you are booked at the station and your mugshot taken and uploaded on the internet where it will reside forever? Then when your current or future employer, client, kids, embassy visa officials etc google your name they find you holding that huge board saying you are a criminal? Surely this must stop.
presumption of innocence is not the same thing as being innocent. A suspect is never found innocent the courts will find "not guilty". Mugshots are important for 'marking' entering someone in the system and following up on their conduct over time. Those who get onto the system even for minor offences tend to re-offend over time. That's how you get a rap sheet and how the police know all the crooks in/from your village. Your potential employer can also ask for a Certificate of good conduct. @maka in post #3 tells you that the wife of the deceased was known as live wire from her college days. If she had been 'marked' back then it would have been easier to stop her from being a magistrate. I wouldn't be surprised if she had numerous misconduct reports in the judiciary. Finally would you let your kids play with someone who was arrested for defilement and found "innocent" by the court? I have not seen DCI arraigning ordinary traffic offenders, commercial dispute suspects or ordinary assault suspects. DCI deals with outright criminals suspects who have reigned in our country with impunity !!. ....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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FRM2011 wrote:tycho wrote:FRM2011 wrote:wukan wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
Yaani Uhuru makes one appointment of Kinoti and the DCI roars back to life as the one institution that can take on the hitherto untouchables !!!! Had it been Muhoro's time, 10M bribe and the case disappears.
Anyone who has read crime fiction knows criminals always get caught because of one mistake; they assume they are smarter than they actually are.
A former NIS guy organizes the hit, recruits rogue cops and tells them they are going to kill a criminal. They were not expecting to be up against a renewed DCI with officers who gather and analyze evidence methodically. During Muhoro's time, they could just have arrested a known criminal in Kayole, execute him and plant the killer gun on them. Case closed.
Aren't we lucky to be living in this Kenya ?
Uhuru has done well with his security sector reforms from Boinet, Haji, Kinoti. This will be his major legacy. DCI is slowly regaining its former glory. Our judiciary is where the rotten apples are still left. I have also noticed a trend where suspects are now coming out clean and telling investigators on the ring leaders without the torture that used to be prevalent. Criminals will now be deterred knowing there is no honor among kiriminos. The institutional capacity of the DCI was always there. It was a leadership problem. When a young internal auditor at Nakumatt was shot in broad daylight, someone powerful put pressure on Muhoro. The case was wrapped up in 2 months with water-tight evidence. Sadly, we are still in Maraga courts. @FRM, I'm glad to hear that something was done about the internal auditor. Is it possible to give me more details, maybe even a link? I'll appreciate greatly... https://www.sde.co.ke/th...killed-nakumatt-auditor
https://www.standardmedi...fter-receiving-sh80-000
@tycho, cops used the boda-boda number plates captured by the CCTV cameras. The bodaboda guy was traced to Kangemi doing his usual boda business. An analysis of his phone calls and movement revealed the evil trio of him, a nakumatt manager and a cop who was the hitman. Thanks a lot @FRM.
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The flamboyant deceased lawyer last saw/visited his dear peasant mother over 20years ago. I always lack sympathy to those kinds of individuals but may justice prevail work to prosper
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Nghai! the wife demands to bury his husband!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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Heshimu na upende baba na mama yako ili siku zako duniani ziwe mingi na zenye baraka. If it is true,then maybe just maybe he is paying for something. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Taurrus wrote:Nghai! the wife demands to bury his husband! Inheritance plans tu If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Swenani wrote:Taurrus wrote:Nghai! the wife demands to bury his husband! Inheritance plans tu Amazing World this one!
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