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India vs Pakistan war
masukuma
#11 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2019 8:34:07 AM
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People have a very romantic view of war!
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kingfisher
#12 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2019 10:13:25 AM
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This war may be fought.... West (Pakistan) vs Russo-China (India)
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masukuma
#13 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2019 12:23:45 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
This war may be fought.... West (Pakistan) vs Russo-China (India)

India is baying for blood!



Keep an eye on the Indian Fundamentalists.
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Impunity
#14 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2019 9:08:08 AM
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hardwood wrote:
They are facing off Omundu khumundu. Could go nuclear....







Just WONDERING LOUD who gave them all the 140-plus nuke warheads?
And how big / powerful are these warheads?

Are these warheads mountable on a missile or they must be delivered only by a bomber?
If they can be delivered by missile then this is a very serious issue.

Pray Pray Pray
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masukuma
#15 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2019 3:01:47 PM
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Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
They are facing off Omundu khumundu. Could go nuclear....







Just WONDERING LOUD who gave them all the 140-plus nuke warheads?
And how big / powerful are these warheads?

Are these warheads mountable on a missile or they must be delivered only by a bomber?
If they can be delivered by missile then this is a very serious issue.

Pray Pray Pray

that part of the world does not joke around! when india got it's first nuke (i think as a response to China getting it's first one) - Pakistan started working on its. Ali Bhutto said they must build theirs even if it meant that pakistan would eat grass or go hungry. A Pakistani scientist stole nuke designs or something from France and from there - they built their first... the "muslim" bomb it was monikered. And before you go rubbishing them about "oh... kumbe they stole"... I would like to remind you that stolen weapons don't know they are stolen! they will explode just as well as ones that were built by your own intelligence
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Impunity
#16 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2019 10:05:26 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
They are facing off Omundu khumundu. Could go nuclear....







Just WONDERING LOUD who gave them all the 140-plus nuke warheads?
And how big / powerful are these warheads?

Are these warheads mountable on a missile or they must be delivered only by a bomber?
If they can be delivered by missile then this is a very serious issue.

Pray Pray Pray

that part of the world does not joke around! when india got it's first nuke (i think as a response to China getting it's first one) - Pakistan started working on its. Ali Bhutto said they must build theirs even if it meant that pakistan would eat grass or go hungry. A Pakistani scientist stole nuke designs or something from France and from there - they built their first... the "muslim" bomb it was monikered. And before you go rubbishing them about "oh... kumbe they stole"... I would like to remind you that stolen weapons don't know they are stolen! they will explode just as well as ones that were built by your own intelligence


Where was uncle Sam when all these nuke development was happening?
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masukuma
#17 Posted : Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:09:06 PM
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Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
They are facing off Omundu khumundu. Could go nuclear....







Just WONDERING LOUD who gave them all the 140-plus nuke warheads?
And how big / powerful are these warheads?

Are these warheads mountable on a missile or they must be delivered only by a bomber?
If they can be delivered by missile then this is a very serious issue.

Pray Pray Pray

that part of the world does not joke around! when india got it's first nuke (i think as a response to China getting it's first one) - Pakistan started working on its. Ali Bhutto said they must build theirs even if it meant that pakistan would eat grass or go hungry. A Pakistani scientist stole nuke designs or something from France and from there - they built their first... the "muslim" bomb it was monikered. And before you go rubbishing them about "oh... kumbe they stole"... I would like to remind you that stolen weapons don't know they are stolen! they will explode just as well as ones that were built by your own intelligence


Where was uncle Sam when all these nuke development was happening?

I have always wondered why some people think they are the prefects of others while they are really pursuing their own interests... anyway... there were initial assistance from France and even Canada but the US turned a blind eye to Pakistan's nuclear capabilities since Pakistan was playing a big role in the US support of the Mujahedeen (now Known as Taliban) when Russia attacked Afghanistan.
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AlphDoti
#18 Posted : Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:54:07 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
They are facing off Omundu khumundu. Could go nuclear....


Just WONDERING LOUD who gave them all the 140-plus nuke warheads?
And how big / powerful are these warheads?

Are these warheads mountable on a missile or they must be delivered only by a bomber?
If they can be delivered by missile then this is a very serious issue.

Pray Pray Pray

that part of the world does not joke around! when india got it's first nuke (i think as a response to China getting it's first one) - Pakistan started working on its. Ali Bhutto said they must build theirs even if it meant that pakistan would eat grass or go hungry. A Pakistani scientist stole nuke designs or something from France and from there - they built their first... the "muslim" bomb it was monikered. And before you go rubbishing them about "oh... kumbe they stole"... I would like to remind you that stolen weapons don't know they are stolen! they will explode just as well as ones that were built by your own intelligence

Where was uncle Sam when all these nuke development was happening?

I have always wondered why some people think they are the prefects of others while they are really pursuing their own interests... anyway... there were initial assistance from France and even Canada but the US turned a blind eye to Pakistan's nuclear capabilities since Pakistan was playing a big role in the US support of the Mujahedeen (now Known as Taliban) when Russia attacked Afghanistan.

Because the world allowed the bully to continue doing this... But now, the bully cannot hide anymore. People are learning the truth. Now people know that Uncle Sam is the cause of all these problems in the world. They are the ones who supply weapons...

Thank God Putin is putting an end to their bullying. When Russia went in to help Assad, Uncle Sam complained. They knew their so-called J1hadists will be cornered. Now Assad has taken control, there is peace... The number of brainwashed people is dropping by the day.

But it seems the bully is shifting to India...
masukuma
#19 Posted : Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:22:44 PM
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The US is a reluctant empire... anyway there are people who don’t wait for permission to move forward. The people of the subcontinent are some of them.
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tycho
#20 Posted : Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:49:00 PM
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There may be a slightly different explanation(s).

India and Pakistan acquired the weapons out of necessity and not because they are peculiar people. Generally the international state system will tend to support balance of power that is likely to maintain a preferred status quo.

There was a project in the US for establishing how quickly a country with fairly educated people can come up with the bomb and it turned out that it's not so difficult for a country to develop nukes. This could have informed the non nuclear proliferation treaty.

But with this treaty came a need for some countries to be given free reign otherwise the international system would have been unstable.

S. Africa surrendered its nuclear capacity for similar reasons, and generally countries will support the non proliferation treaty because in their contexts nukes would bring more disadvantage than advantage.

The idea seems to have worked given that both India and Pakistan have deescalated the conflict and localized the conflict to Kashmir.

BTW, there was a time, maybe last year when both armies engaged in non lethal warfare of pushing each other without extending hands, no punching no weapons.
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