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Time to buy Total?
the deal
#1 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:34:46 PM
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Total currently trades at a PBV of 0.6,PSR of 0.3,some people on wazua are using Total's recent first Quater results as a benchmark as to how Kenol will perform in 2010...on top of that Total is the number 1 oil company in Kenya and doesnt have legal issues like Kenol...their balance sheet look fat...one red flag it looks as if their paying a loan??? Will 2010 be the year for Total? Will they return to their 2.50 dividend?
slykat
#2 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:31:44 AM
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Yeah; stable range 28-33 plus healthy div. But there is always that little matter of price transfer with Total, Isn't there?

Do they usually pay interim divs?
gladiator
#3 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:52:58 AM
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no interim dividend and the best time to buy Total is the 4th quarter and offload in the 1st quarter either after gaining about 15% in capital gains or when it goes ex-dividend.
VituVingiSana
#4 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:55:20 AM
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For growth I prefer KK over Total but I expect the 2.50 dividend from Total to start with FY 2010 (payable in 2011)... And that is a great return vis-avis T-bills...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#5 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 2:00:41 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
For growth I prefer KK over Total but I expect the 2.50 dividend to start with FY 2010 (payable in 2011)

ja for future growth KK is the way...but that dividend at the current prices is awesome...
akowally
#6 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:05:37 PM
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Buy it tomorrow...Very stable share over the years, wasn't even affected by post election, world economic depression e.t.c, good dividend yield too...Great for long term though since price doesn't shift as much so won't give you the over 50% returns in the short term.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:24:43 PM
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akowally wrote:
Buy it tomorrow...Very stable share over the years, wasn't even affected by post election, world economic depression e.t.c, good dividend yield too...Great for long term though since price doesn't shift as much so won't give you the over 50% returns in the short term.

Are your good sentiments for Total or for KK?
reithi
#8 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:35:05 PM
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...and here comes the price controls Sad
VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:17:51 PM
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Price Controls have always failed... Show me a country where they have been successful...???

It is easy to introduce Price Controls coz POPULIST but it is inefficient... Encourages smuggling, deters investment thus loss of suppliers means either lower quality or shortages...

Maize, wheat, sugar & food oils are all GLOBAL commodities... Kenya imports all of the 4 above...

If you sell at 'below' cost then it will be smuggled from Kenya into Tanzania, Uganda, Sudan!!!

Dont forget fuel... Kenya imports 100% of its crude oil & petrol/diesel requirements... It's the high taxes (40% of petrol prices are direct taxes)...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#10 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 12:01:21 AM
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@ VVS and Mukiha...GoK Should regulate the pump price according to the price of oil/barrel on international markets...they should set up a comitte which meets every month to determine wheather theres over recovery and under recovery in the market and adjust the pump price accordingly...
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