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VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:10:15 PM
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The Merchant wrote:
@the deal...only trouble here is that our politicians do not have a good record of having caring for the interest of the public one bit. Think about how much power price control will give some politicians. 'Either you pay me X or I rally others against your industry to reduce prices by Y'.....Sounds risky to me.


Political Corruption!

This is exactly what happened & soon many industries were suffocated. Elliot bakeries (then owned by Unga) was based in Thika. New law was u can only sell bread locally so Elliot cudnt sell in Nairobi... So Elliot collapsed & guess who bought Unga? moi + ndegwas!!!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#12 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:51:46 PM
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Hehehe price control can bring innovation and massive profits to the likes of Unga i.e they will have a lot of customers in turn raking billion for their shareholders look at safaricom with their bamba 5 and Mpesa...also look at the divergence between the CBK rate and your banks lending rate...damn this banks operate with impunity...LoL.
sparkly
#13 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:15:11 PM
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Consumer protection. A discipline of public law, nothing new really and it does not mean that companies will fail.
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VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:18:59 PM
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the deal wrote:
Hehehe price control can bring innovation and massive profits to the likes of Unga i.e they will have a lot of customers in turn raking billion for their shareholders look at safaricom with their bamba 5 and Mpesa...also look at the divergence between the CBK rate and your banks lending rate...damn this banks operate with impunity...LoL.


Erm, how? Your argument makes little or no sense... Please explain...

How do price controls innovate?
Bamba 5 & M-Pesa not coz of price controls...

Like I said... u are making little sense... pls educate me...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#15 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:20:44 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Consumer protection. A discipline of public law, nothing new really and it does not mean that companies will fail.


Consumer Protection should be on QUALITY meaning did u sell me what you told me I should get for my money...

Of course, extends to ads that promise a price & they shud stick to it... very different from Price Controls...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#16 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:48:50 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
Hehehe price control can bring innovation and massive profits to the likes of Unga i.e they will have a lot of customers in turn raking billion for their shareholders look at safaricom with their bamba 5 and Mpesa...also look at the divergence between the CBK rate and your banks lending rate...damn this banks operate with impunity...LoL.


Erm, how? Your argument makes little or no sense... Please explain...

How do price controls innovate?
Bamba 5 & M-Pesa not coz of price controls...

Like I said... u are making little sense... pls educate me...

@VVS i used Safcom's Mpesa and Bamba 5 as an example of on how innovation can change people lives i.e if we cap Unga at 5 bob its up to the company come up with ways to maximise their profits at that price...ofcourse Unga will have a lot of new customers(demand) because its now affordable...
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#17 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37:01 PM
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CAPITALISM IS DEAD...TIME TO GO CHINA...MIXED ECONOMY IS THE WAY...
minto64
#18 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 12:01:12 AM
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@ the deal.... in this day and age there should be no price controls.
I second VVS and Kausha's sentiments. As an investor this policy does not augur well for the econmony / Country.
If i was to use your example of Safcom... or better yet Equity. Equity will still be an MFI lending to wanjikus and Nojoroge's in Central province if controls existed. They would not be permitted to operate as a bank Liberalization has opened up Kenyan markets.

As an investor i look at an investment as how i can create wealth for me, myself and I. This bill does not in way push my agenda. Remember the sponsor is one of the wealthiest Kenyans....controls would not have enabled him attain his wealth.
Wake up and smell the coffee. This is nothing but a populist bill. I think it was strategic that the GOK did not send its members to oppose the bill. During the referendum they do not want to antagonise wananchi.

KIbz will veto this bill.... It messes up with his 2030 vision/dream. Think about the corruption it will breed.....aka maize scandal last year when GOK imposed price controls in the wake of the severe drought.
This is a bad. baad,bad policyShame on you Shame on you Shame on you
VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 2:17:40 AM
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the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
Hehehe price control can bring innovation and massive profits to the likes of Unga i.e they will have a lot of customers in turn raking billion for their shareholders look at safaricom with their bamba 5 and Mpesa...also look at the divergence between the CBK rate and your banks lending rate...damn this banks operate with impunity...LoL.


Erm, how? Your argument makes little or no sense... Please explain...

How do price controls innovate?
Bamba 5 & M-Pesa not coz of price controls...

Like I said... u are making little sense... pls educate me...

@VVS i used Safcom's Mpesa and Bamba 5 as an example of on how innovation can change people lives i.e if we cap Unga at 5 bob its up to the company come up with ways to maximise their profits at that price...ofcourse Unga will have a lot of new customers(demand) because its now affordable...


What are you smoking???

Bamaba 5 is not 5/- per minute... but simply 5/- credit! It's like Unga selling smaller packets of jogoo at a higher price per kilo!

Please look up shortages... It means UNFILLED demand... Unga has no incentive to expand its mills since its VARIABLE costs would be higher than its MARGINAL profits...

Over time, Unga will close up shop if the margins are too low...

Yes, there may be innovation but which country has the highest number of patents? The USA... not entirely free market but a decent example even with all the problems...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 2:18:57 AM
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@minto64 - You do know that ephraim maina was/is the owner of kirinyaga construction... which was involved in all sorts of shady deals!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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