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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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jokes wrote:We should have a post about abortion in this country and why its happening If a woman yanks your growing seed from her womb, that's a very very personal protest against you as a man. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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sparkly wrote:jokes wrote:We should have a post about abortion in this country and why its happening If a woman yanks your growing seed from her womb, that's a very very personal protest against you as a man. What about when you use arimis to yank the seed out yourself and then you flush it down the toilet?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/1/2008 Posts: 1,098
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hardwood wrote:sparkly wrote:jokes wrote:We should have a post about abortion in this country and why its happening If a woman yanks your growing seed from her womb, that's a very very personal protest against you as a man. What about when you use arimis to yank the seed out yourself and then you flush it down the toilet? This type of seed has not been planted. It is just that. A seed.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,590
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No requiem mass  Quote:The Catholic Church on Thursday refused to hold a requiem Mass for activist Caroline Mwatha. Postmortem results showed she died as a result of excessive bleeding caused by possible abortion. The Church has a strong stand against abortion. Kenya Conference of Catholic Bishops General Secretary Father Daniel Rono on Friday told the Star that life begins at conception and that abortion is wrong. "We as the Catholic Church do no support abortion. Life is precious and God-given. Life starts from conception," he said. Similar sentiments were shared by National Council of Churches of Kenya Deputy General Secretary Reverend Nelson Makanda. "The sanctity of the foetus must be protected and that starts from conception. Once fertilisation occurs that is a human being and the child must be protected to its natural death. Anyone who aborts is a murderer," he said. https://www.the-star.co....quiem-mass-for_c1898757
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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wukan wrote:No requiem mass Quote:The Catholic Church on Thursday refused to hold a requiem Mass for activist Caroline Mwatha. Postmortem results showed she died as a result of excessive bleeding caused by possible abortion. The Church has a strong stand against abortion. Kenya Conference of Catholic Bishops General Secretary Father Daniel Rono on Friday told the Star that life begins at conception and that abortion is wrong. "We as the Catholic Church do no support abortion. Life is precious and God-given. Life starts from conception," he said. Similar sentiments were shared by National Council of Churches of Kenya Deputy General Secretary Reverend Nelson Makanda. "The sanctity of the foetus must be protected and that starts from conception. Once fertilisation occurs that is a human being and the child must be protected to its natural death. Anyone who aborts is a murderer," he said. https://www.the-star.co....quiem-mass-for_c1898757
So the church cannot forgive, bure kabisa. In any case i thought such mass is more for the living and not for the living dead. Church and the hopeless useless pretense. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/27/2019 Posts: 55 Location: Nbo
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Forester wrote:https://youtu.be/A16gzm9eaa8  For all the pro-choice folks, may you have a sleepless night. I just cry for those innocent lives we literally kill.abortion in my own beliefs is murder murder and should never happen.these children!may God help us
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2011 Posts: 181 Location: Nairobi
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The parties of God coming out with alacrity to shame one vanquished soul that failed their dogmatic culture, but feeble in addressing matters that reveal who they really are. Shame on them and those that prod them on. Rituals... https://www.mwakilishi.c...-across-the-world?cid=h
https://www.the-star.co....riests-globally_c1897436First time in history we can save the human race by laying in front of the TV and doing nothing. Let's not screw it up
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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Angelica _ann wrote:wukan wrote:No requiem mass Quote:The Catholic Church on Thursday refused to hold a requiem Mass for activist Caroline Mwatha. Postmortem results showed she died as a result of excessive bleeding caused by possible abortion. The Church has a strong stand against abortion. Kenya Conference of Catholic Bishops General Secretary Father Daniel Rono on Friday told the Star that life begins at conception and that abortion is wrong. "We as the Catholic Church do no support abortion. Life is precious and God-given. Life starts from conception," he said. Similar sentiments were shared by National Council of Churches of Kenya Deputy General Secretary Reverend Nelson Makanda. "The sanctity of the foetus must be protected and that starts from conception. Once fertilisation occurs that is a human being and the child must be protected to its natural death. Anyone who aborts is a murderer," he said. https://www.the-star.co....quiem-mass-for_c1898757
So the church cannot forgive, bure kabisa. In any case i thought such mass is more for the living and not for the living dead. Church and the hopeless useless pretense. true what the church does during a burial is for the living, as for the dead let God judge them
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 784 Location: ant hill - red hill
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Waah, marriage is really hard and unpredictable The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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I fault my church for not burying Caroline. The church should not join the masses in condemning Caroline. Though I am sure if it was my parish priest, he would have buried her. Pope Francis would be very disappointed to hear this Lord, thank you!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Euge wrote:I fault my church for not burying Caroline. The church should not join the masses in condemning Caroline. Though I am sure if it was my parish priest, he would have buried her. Pope Francis would be very disappointed to hear this This kind of thinking is what we call imposed mental slavery. It is premised on the idea that the mzungu church was a force for civilisation of the African. That a person not buried by the church is thrown away like a dog, cannot go to heaven. There is no reason why someone cannot be buried or cremated privately without religious (and in the case of Kenya political) rites. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,590
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Euge wrote:I fault my church for not burying Caroline. The church should not join the masses in condemning Caroline. Though I am sure if it was my parish priest, he would have buried her. Pope Francis would be very disappointed to hear this I can only fault the church for not having a requiem mass for the innocent foetus. Caroline knew the stance of her catholic faith against abortion, against marital infidelity but she chose the easy path. The masses are moral in condemning her actions. The church must be more moral than the masses. If we had glorious funerals in the church for all murderers, gichuge type terrorists and witches then the masses will lose faith. Let Caroline be buried by her pro-choice people with their own rituals. Even in traditional african society they were different burial practices. Those who went against the community taboos and values got a different funeral than lets say a respected elder. Funeral practices is a way for the living to accord respect for the departed. If you are a local thug don't expect people to turn up for your funeral. In fact what I see nowadays in rural kenya if the community knows you are a thug the immediate family will bury in a quick ceremony. This illusion of irresponsibility that young people are living under is not the way. You can't go and impregnate someones wife and casually give her money to go abort then call us for a requiem mass. This thinking that one can sin and go to church for absolution for the sins then go back and sin some more is total nonsense. I hope the church can also do the same to those who are corrupt and bring their corrupt money to the church. There must be a way of teaching values to the younger generation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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wukan wrote:Euge wrote:I fault my church for not burying Caroline. The church should not join the masses in condemning Caroline. Though I am sure if it was my parish priest, he would have buried her. Pope Francis would be very disappointed to hear this I can only fault the church for not having a requiem mass for the innocent foetus. Caroline knew the stance of her catholic faith against abortion, against marital infidelity but she chose the easy path. The masses are moral in condemning her actions. The church must be more moral than the masses. If we had glorious funerals in the church for all murderers, gichuge type terrorists and witches then the masses will lose faith. Let Caroline be buried by her pro-choice people with their own rituals. Even in traditional african society they were different burial practices. Those who went against the community taboos and values got a different funeral than lets say a respected elder. Funeral practices is a way for the living to accord respect for the departed. If you are a local thug don't expect people to turn up for your funeral. In fact what I see nowadays in rural kenya if the community knows you are a thug the immediate family will bury in a quick ceremony. This illusion of irresponsibility that young people are living under is not the way. You can't go and impregnate someones wife and casually give her money to go abort then call us for a requiem mass. This thinking that one can sin and go to church for absolution for the sins then go back and sin some more is total nonsense. I hope the church can also do the same to those who are corrupt and bring their corrupt money to the church. There must be a way of teaching values to the younger generation. You are oozing with wisdom. You deserve the rank of Chief. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 488
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sparkly wrote:wukan wrote:Euge wrote:I fault my church for not burying Caroline. The church should not join the masses in condemning Caroline. Though I am sure if it was my parish priest, he would have buried her. Pope Francis would be very disappointed to hear this I can only fault the church for not having a requiem mass for the innocent foetus. Caroline knew the stance of her catholic faith against abortion, against marital infidelity but she chose the easy path. The masses are moral in condemning her actions. The church must be more moral than the masses. If we had glorious funerals in the church for all murderers, gichuge type terrorists and witches then the masses will lose faith. Let Caroline be buried by her pro-choice people with their own rituals. Even in traditional african society they were different burial practices. Those who went against the community taboos and values got a different funeral than lets say a respected elder. Funeral practices is a way for the living to accord respect for the departed. If you are a local thug don't expect people to turn up for your funeral. In fact what I see nowadays in rural kenya if the community knows you are a thug the immediate family will bury in a quick ceremony. This illusion of irresponsibility that young people are living under is not the way. You can't go and impregnate someones wife and casually give her money to go abort then call us for a requiem mass. This thinking that one can sin and go to church for absolution for the sins then go back and sin some more is total nonsense. I hope the church can also do the same to those who are corrupt and bring their corrupt money to the church. There must be a way of teaching values to the younger generation. You are oozing with wisdom. You deserve the rank of Chief. True.. Some Kenyans have acquired very misplaced sense of entitlement. The "haki yetu" mentality!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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I am not catholic but let me ask...does the requiem mass do anything to change the destiny of the dead ama it's an honor of sorts for the deceased and the family. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2011 Posts: 181 Location: Nairobi
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wukan wrote:Euge wrote:I fault my church for not burying Caroline. The church should not join the masses in condemning Caroline. Though I am sure if it was my parish priest, he would have buried her. Pope Francis would be very disappointed to hear this I can only fault the church for not having a requiem mass for the innocent foetus. Caroline knew the stance of her catholic faith against abortion, against marital infidelity but she chose the easy path. The masses are moral in condemning her actions. The church must be more moral than the masses. If we had glorious funerals in the church for all murderers, gichuge type terrorists and witches then the masses will lose faith. Let Caroline be buried by her pro-choice people with their own rituals. Even in traditional african society they were different burial practices. Those who went against the community taboos and values got a different funeral than lets say a respected elder. Funeral practices is a way for the living to accord respect for the departed. If you are a local thug don't expect people to turn up for your funeral. In fact what I see nowadays in rural kenya if the community knows you are a thug the immediate family will bury in a quick ceremony. This illusion of irresponsibility that young people are living under is not the way. You can't go and impregnate someones wife and casually give her money to go abort then call us for a requiem mass. This thinking that one can sin and go to church for absolution for the sins then go back and sin some more is total nonsense. I hope the church can also do the same to those who are corrupt and bring their corrupt money to the church. There must be a way of teaching values to the younger generation. You mean to say that of every member of the Catholic faith, who have had glorious requiem masses and well attended burials that none are known to have been murderers or abortionists or child molesters, or plain thugs or adulterers, etc? Say yes and I will find some examples. First time in history we can save the human race by laying in front of the TV and doing nothing. Let's not screw it up
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Apricot wrote:wukan wrote:Euge wrote:I fault my church for not burying Caroline. The church should not join the masses in condemning Caroline. Though I am sure if it was my parish priest, he would have buried her. Pope Francis would be very disappointed to hear this I can only fault the church for not having a requiem mass for the innocent foetus. Caroline knew the stance of her catholic faith against abortion, against marital infidelity but she chose the easy path. The masses are moral in condemning her actions. The church must be more moral than the masses. If we had glorious funerals in the church for all murderers, gichuge type terrorists and witches then the masses will lose faith. Let Caroline be buried by her pro-choice people with their own rituals. Even in traditional african society they were different burial practices. Those who went against the community taboos and values got a different funeral than lets say a respected elder. Funeral practices is a way for the living to accord respect for the departed. If you are a local thug don't expect people to turn up for your funeral. In fact what I see nowadays in rural kenya if the community knows you are a thug the immediate family will bury in a quick ceremony. This illusion of irresponsibility that young people are living under is not the way. You can't go and impregnate someones wife and casually give her money to go abort then call us for a requiem mass. This thinking that one can sin and go to church for absolution for the sins then go back and sin some more is total nonsense. I hope the church can also do the same to those who are corrupt and bring their corrupt money to the church. There must be a way of teaching values to the younger generation. You mean to say that of every member of the Catholic faith, who have had glorious requiem masses and well attended burials that none are known to have been murderers or abortionists or child molesters, or plain thugs or adulterers, etc? Say yes and I will find some examples. Wachana na wukan. I learned long time ago not to waste my time discussing anything of importance with jesus freaks. If you want to change their minds, just go straight to their "pastor bishop". Buy the "pastor" enough booze and a good sadaka and these freaks shall fall in line wapende wasipende. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 681 Location: Kenya
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alma1 wrote:Apricot wrote:wukan wrote:Euge wrote:I fault my church for not burying Caroline. The church should not join the masses in condemning Caroline. Though I am sure if it was my parish priest, he would have buried her. Pope Francis would be very disappointed to hear this I can only fault the church for not having a requiem mass for the innocent foetus. Caroline knew the stance of her catholic faith against abortion, against marital infidelity but she chose the easy path. The masses are moral in condemning her actions. The church must be more moral than the masses. If we had glorious funerals in the church for all murderers, gichuge type terrorists and witches then the masses will lose faith. Let Caroline be buried by her pro-choice people with their own rituals. Even in traditional african society they were different burial practices. Those who went against the community taboos and values got a different funeral than lets say a respected elder. Funeral practices is a way for the living to accord respect for the departed. If you are a local thug don't expect people to turn up for your funeral. In fact what I see nowadays in rural kenya if the community knows you are a thug the immediate family will bury in a quick ceremony. This illusion of irresponsibility that young people are living under is not the way. You can't go and impregnate someones wife and casually give her money to go abort then call us for a requiem mass. This thinking that one can sin and go to church for absolution for the sins then go back and sin some more is total nonsense. I hope the church can also do the same to those who are corrupt and bring their corrupt money to the church. There must be a way of teaching values to the younger generation. You mean to say that of every member of the Catholic faith, who have had glorious requiem masses and well attended burials that none are known to have been murderers or abortionists or child molesters, or plain thugs or adulterers, etc? Say yes and I will find some examples. Wachana na wukan. I learned long time ago not to waste my time discussing anything of importance with jesus freaks. If you want to change their minds, just go straight to their "pastor bishop". Buy the "pastor" enough booze and a good sadaka and these freaks shall fall in line wapende wasipende. Hahaha.....I also could get a few names to add if @Wukan stood up to the challenge.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Thitifini wrote:alma1 wrote:Apricot wrote:wukan wrote:Euge wrote:I fault my church for not burying Caroline. The church should not join the masses in condemning Caroline. Though I am sure if it was my parish priest, he would have buried her. Pope Francis would be very disappointed to hear this I can only fault the church for not having a requiem mass for the innocent foetus. Caroline knew the stance of her catholic faith against abortion, against marital infidelity but she chose the easy path. The masses are moral in condemning her actions. The church must be more moral than the masses. If we had glorious funerals in the church for all murderers, gichuge type terrorists and witches then the masses will lose faith. Let Caroline be buried by her pro-choice people with their own rituals. Even in traditional african society they were different burial practices. Those who went against the community taboos and values got a different funeral than lets say a respected elder. Funeral practices is a way for the living to accord respect for the departed. If you are a local thug don't expect people to turn up for your funeral. In fact what I see nowadays in rural kenya if the community knows you are a thug the immediate family will bury in a quick ceremony. This illusion of irresponsibility that young people are living under is not the way. You can't go and impregnate someones wife and casually give her money to go abort then call us for a requiem mass. This thinking that one can sin and go to church for absolution for the sins then go back and sin some more is total nonsense. I hope the church can also do the same to those who are corrupt and bring their corrupt money to the church. There must be a way of teaching values to the younger generation. You mean to say that of every member of the Catholic faith, who have had glorious requiem masses and well attended burials that none are known to have been murderers or abortionists or child molesters, or plain thugs or adulterers, etc? Say yes and I will find some examples. Wachana na wukan. I learned long time ago not to waste my time discussing anything of importance with jesus freaks. If you want to change their minds, just go straight to their "pastor bishop". Buy the "pastor" enough booze and a good sadaka and these freaks shall fall in line wapende wasipende. Hahaha.....I also could get a few names to add if @Wukan stood up to the challenge. Of course the thief who has admitted to stealing KCAA land is normally given front row seat in church (including the so called Catholic church) and addresses the congregation from the pulpit. Yah right coz he has money. Coz of money he is not a murderer (Kiambaa church victims comes to mind). In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Apricot wrote:wukan wrote:Euge wrote:I fault my church for not burying Caroline. The church should not join the masses in condemning Caroline. Though I am sure if it was my parish priest, he would have buried her. Pope Francis would be very disappointed to hear this I can only fault the church for not having a requiem mass for the innocent foetus. Caroline knew the stance of her catholic faith against abortion, against marital infidelity but she chose the easy path. The masses are moral in condemning her actions. The church must be more moral than the masses. If we had glorious funerals in the church for all murderers, gichuge type terrorists and witches then the masses will lose faith. Let Caroline be buried by her pro-choice people with their own rituals. Even in traditional african society they were different burial practices. Those who went against the community taboos and values got a different funeral than lets say a respected elder. Funeral practices is a way for the living to accord respect for the departed. If you are a local thug don't expect people to turn up for your funeral. In fact what I see nowadays in rural kenya if the community knows you are a thug the immediate family will bury in a quick ceremony. This illusion of irresponsibility that young people are living under is not the way. You can't go and impregnate someones wife and casually give her money to go abort then call us for a requiem mass. This thinking that one can sin and go to church for absolution for the sins then go back and sin some more is total nonsense. I hope the church can also do the same to those who are corrupt and bring their corrupt money to the church. There must be a way of teaching values to the younger generation. You mean to say that of every member of the Catholic faith, who have had glorious requiem masses and well attended burials that none are known to have been murderers or abortionists or child molesters, or plain thugs or adulterers, etc? Say yes and I will find some examples. "YES" on behalf of @Wukan! Toboa. Portfolio: Sold
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