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Rank: Member Joined: 12/7/2010 Posts: 520 Location: Epicentre - Ngamia 1
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stockshunter wrote:murchr wrote:And they are back in the news? Dang! its been a while since @Stockshunter showed up in Wazua...http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/How-investors-were-conned-Sh1bn-by-Kiambu-couple/-/539546/2595020/-/xxea0l/-/index.html Niko kwa Chemist sasa, am happy to know that I have friends here. Get well soon and take your meds faithfully hadi sukari irudi normal. Pole sana. Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs - Farrah Gray.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/16/2014 Posts: 114
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Forester wrote:stockshunter wrote:murchr wrote:And they are back in the news? Dang! its been a while since @Stockshunter showed up in Wazua...http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/How-investors-were-conned-Sh1bn-by-Kiambu-couple/-/539546/2595020/-/xxea0l/-/index.html Niko kwa Chemist sasa, am happy to know that I have friends here. Get well soon and take your meds faithfully hadi sukari irudi normal. Pole sana. hahaha search the chemist post I did earlier this month and you will see what am doing in Chemist. I candidly acknowledged that I lost 20% percent of the I gambled with but apart from that last year was a good year. fear makes people live a miserable life.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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hi mambo ilikuwa serious hivyo, I remember a friend wa huko majuu kept on insisting I tafutia them a shop to rent hapo kiambu wajoin hi kitu.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/17/2010 Posts: 47 Location: Nairobi
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dunkang wrote:jmbada wrote:This is the next level of Ponzi's, where they founder does not even pretend to be offering an investment of any kind. The "investors" are the greedy bunch who want to believe they are the first ones in and will make their return before pulling out ahead of everyone else! In my mind, these "first movers" are the very worst as they work as recruiters for the next layer. In the US, they are now pursued as aggressively as the founder, which should indeed be the case, going by @stockshunter's behaviour! Having downloaded and watched all episodes of CNBC's American Greed (Seasons 1-7), VIPortal is a just ponzi scheme. It had all been cast on stone for all to read. If you could only watch American Greed you will come to understand the con game even on the larger legal platforms like "GEMS" People who look for easy money invariably pay for the privilege of proving conclusively that it cannot be found on this sordid earth
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Othelo wrote:maka wrote:sheri wrote:Swenani wrote:60% returns in 29 days, the depositers deserve to be swindled Kuwa mpole! Honestly they totally do...its just being greedy and stupid. One guy lost 5.5 million like seriously!!! Pole Othelo Othelo wrote:I am in this, round 2 .... i hope i will survive! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/27/2010 Posts: 266 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Wacha wanyolewe bila maji Kabisa. You should have seen how those who advised caution against VIPortal were called names. You can't help some people. Now there's a dude on Biz101 on FB who's come up with a brilliant idea targeting 50,000 simpletons to raise 1,000/= monthly and form a Sacco. They aim to raise 0.5 billion in ten months, ati to buy Corner Hse. What shocks me is the enthusiasm that has greeted that latest congame. They've even set meeting dates and venues
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/16/2012 Posts: 660
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Caramba wrote:murchr wrote:Wacha wanyolewe bila maji Kabisa. You should have seen how those who advised caution against VIPortal were called names. You can't help some people. Now there's a dude on Biz101 on FB who's come up with a brilliant idea targeting 50,000 simpletons to raise 1,000/= monthly and form a Sacco. They aim to raise 0.5 billion in ten months, ati to buy Corner Hse. What shocks me is the enthusiasm that has greeted that latest congame. They've even set meeting dates and venues Hii ni campaign money ya 2017 Governor! Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2010 Posts: 495 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2010 Posts: 495 Location: Nairobi
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In all seriousness, it's quite understandable why people keep on falling for such financial scams: Quote:Hard to spot. Shouldn’t we know better by now? The unfortunate fact of human nature is that knowing better isn’t easy. Ponzi operations are typically light-years more sophisticated than the Nigerian money-transfer scams caught by your e-mail spam filter. As fraud expert and SEC trial counsel Pat Huddleston is fond of saying, “If it sounds too good to be true, you’re dealing with an amateur.” Madoff and his ilk don’t promise the moon; the returns they offer, albeit fictitious, are plausible. For certain investors, Ponzi come-ons are like catnip. Risk-takers—not just in investing but in areas such as sports and hobbies—are vulnerable, says Tamar Frankel, a Boston University law professor and author of The Ponzi Scheme Puzzle: A History and Analysis of Con Artists and Victims. Victims often exhibit addictive personality traits, with the fear of loss outweighed by satisfaction in gains—or anticipation thereof. “You see it at the roulette table, and you see it in victims of Ponzi schemes,” says Frankel. Our need to belong explains why Ponzi schemes are so successful among affinity groups, and our craving for social status explains why, when Ponzi perpetrators try to turn would-be investors away, they fight all the harder to get in on the “exclusive” opportunity. Sophistication is no defense: Educated investors are often too confident in their own capacity to evaluate a deal. Primed for trouble. Simply the way our brain processes information can lead to problems in the investing arena. Most of us have a general bias toward optimism. “Nobody thinks anything bad is going to happen. Otherwise, you’d never leave home in a world full of crime, germs and teenage drivers,” says Huddleston. A congruence bias prevents us from seeking evidence that conflicts with our impressions and leads us to discount such evidence if it’s presented. Read more at http://www.kiplinger.com...tml#LVooMP0fQqETsB1X.99 Sent from my Black Nokia 3310
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Euge wrote:Othelo wrote:maka wrote:sheri wrote:Swenani wrote:60% returns in 29 days, the depositers deserve to be swindled Kuwa mpole! Honestly they totally do...its just being greedy and stupid. One guy lost 5.5 million like seriously!!! What! Its called having too much money in the wrong hands. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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Quails have come home to roost. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Othelo wrote:maka wrote:sheri wrote:Swenani wrote:60% returns in 29 days, the depositers deserve to be swindled Kuwa mpole! Honestly they totally do...its just being greedy and stupid. One guy lost 5.5 million like seriously!!! Wakenya wana pesa!! You only need to figure out how to get it from their pockets to yours
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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All is not lost.... https://www.the-star.co....ly-from-public_c1896625
Quote:A couple accused of defrauding thousands of investors of millions of shillings has started repaying the money, a Kiambu court was told yesterday.
Alfred Wangai and Mercy Nkatha on Monday said that they have paid more than Sh900 million.
The couple owns an online forex trading company - VIP Portal - based in Limuru town, where thousands of people lost more than Sh1 billion after the couple promised to double the deposits.
Between October 2013 and September 2014, the couple engineered one of Kenya’s biggest forex trading scams through the forex firm.
Some 13,000 Kenyans lost about Sh1 billion to the couple within eight to nine months, according to the police. The investors were from several counties.
The couple allegedly told depositors they would use their capital to trade in stocks in internationally listed companies, but fell back on the promise as soon as the money was deposited in their account.
Every investor was asked to deposit a minimum of Sh25,000 at VIP Portal.
The couple promised investors dividends of between 60 and 80 per cent of the amount deposited for four consecutive months.
After the expiry of the four months, the investors would get their initial total deposits back.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/27/2014 Posts: 454 Location: Republic of Enchantment.
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hardwood wrote:All is not lost.... https://www.the-star.co....ly-from-public_c1896625
Quote:A couple accused of defrauding thousands of investors of millions of shillings has started repaying the money, a Kiambu court was told yesterday.
Alfred Wangai and Mercy Nkatha on Monday said that they have paid more than Sh900 million.
The couple owns an online forex trading company - VIP Portal - based in Limuru town, where thousands of people lost more than Sh1 billion after the couple promised to double the deposits.
Between October 2013 and September 2014, the couple engineered one of Kenya’s biggest forex trading scams through the forex firm.
Some 13,000 Kenyans lost about Sh1 billion to the couple within eight to nine months, according to the police. The investors were from several counties.
The couple allegedly told depositors they would use their capital to trade in stocks in internationally listed companies, but fell back on the promise as soon as the money was deposited in their account.
Every investor was asked to deposit a minimum of Sh25,000 at VIP Portal.
The couple promised investors dividends of between 60 and 80 per cent of the amount deposited for four consecutive months.
After the expiry of the four months, the investors would get their initial total deposits back.
It has been tough for Wangai. Divers - can you laugh in scuba gear, or will you drown? I was wondering. - James May.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/29/2018 Posts: 14 Location: Nairobi
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I'm wondering how they have managed to raise the 900 million, as I'd assume they had already spent the amounts they had initially collected from investors. What kind of business would they be running in order to raise that amount? Maybe a similar forex venture in secret?
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