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the card Expires  This country has geniuses... hapa iko mtu anakula vizuri sana set to eternity "đđĄKQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder đđ " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:Whatâs the point of this whole card again? My assumption: After sometime u will have only 2 gvt issued docs. Id and passport. The rest NHIF, NSSF, Drivers license, pin, whathaveyou will be obsolete. Eventually, a huduma number will track a Kenyan from birth to death. Right now they are creating a database and my observations from what Mucheru said is they dont completely trust the data at the National Reg bureau. As you opined sometimes back, Kenyans share ID numbers. You can download a registration form online BUT that cannot be photocopied and used by anyone else....the form is serialized. Once you leave the asst chiefs office you leave with nothing just the docs you go with. Ie the docs mentioned above and title(s) if he cannot trust the National Reg bureau ,what will make him or someone in future trust the lowly huduma centers? ntsa the digital has it has been has been duplicating number plates .what will stop huduma centers from duplicating their cards? this is another jubilee hot air to me.and muchr if our high flying brother masukuma can't see the meaning or need for this card how will mama mbogas see it.you refuse to serve a kenyan citizen with national ID ,you attract litigations or low rating of the government performance.is the huduma crap backed up by any law? Do you really think huduma centers will be managing your data? Tuongee kinaga ubaga this is wazua where it is believed that the avg understanding of members is above average. What do Huduma centers do? From your lay man understanding? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Although what is posted up there is probably fake.....They (ids) should expire (happens even in the first world)....nobody looks the same after 10 years. Almost always when I hand my ID to some security guard...they will take a second look at me and ask again...ai kweli huyu ni wewe? You may be disabled or impaired after 5 years of getting your driving license, shouldn't that be known to the republic? I tend to think the same govt agency that creates your IDs will handle this; no tender...on the positive though these are jobs. Yes its fake.  "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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murchr wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:Whatâs the point of this whole card again? My assumption: After sometime u will have only 2 gvt issued docs. Id and passport. The rest NHIF, NSSF, Drivers license, pin, whathaveyou will be obsolete. Eventually, a huduma number will track a Kenyan from birth to death. Right now they are creating a database and my observations from what Mucheru said is they dont completely trust the data at the National Reg bureau. As you opined sometimes back, Kenyans share ID numbers. You can download a registration form online BUT that cannot be photocopied and used by anyone else....the form is serialized. Once you leave the asst chiefs office you leave with nothing just the docs you go with. Ie the docs mentioned above and title(s) if he cannot trust the National Reg bureau ,what will make him or someone in future trust the lowly huduma centers? ntsa the digital has it has been has been duplicating number plates .what will stop huduma centers from duplicating their cards? this is another jubilee hot air to me.and muchr if our high flying brother masukuma can't see the meaning or need for this card how will mama mbogas see it.you refuse to serve a kenyan citizen with national ID ,you attract litigations or low rating of the government performance.is the huduma crap backed up by any law? Do you really think huduma centers will be managing your data? Tuongee kinaga ubaga this is wazua where it is believed that the avg understanding of members is above average. What do Huduma centers do? From your lay man understanding? who will be managing since you seem to have insider information that my below average thinking can't decipher. punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:Whatâs the point of this whole card again? My assumption: After sometime u will have only 2 gvt issued docs. Id and passport. The rest NHIF, NSSF, Drivers license, pin, whathaveyou will be obsolete. Eventually, a huduma number will track a Kenyan from birth to death. Right now they are creating a database and my observations from what Mucheru said is they dont completely trust the data at the National Reg bureau. As you opined sometimes back, Kenyans share ID numbers. You can download a registration form online BUT that cannot be photocopied and used by anyone else....the form is serialized. Once you leave the asst chiefs office you leave with nothing just the docs you go with. Ie the docs mentioned above and title(s) if he cannot trust the National Reg bureau ,what will make him or someone in future trust the lowly huduma centers? ntsa the digital has it has been has been duplicating number plates .what will stop huduma centers from duplicating their cards? this is another jubilee hot air to me.and muchr if our high flying brother masukuma can't see the meaning or need for this card how will mama mbogas see it.you refuse to serve a kenyan citizen with national ID ,you attract litigations or low rating of the government performance.is the huduma crap backed up by any law? Do you really think huduma centers will be managing your data? Tuongee kinaga ubaga this is wazua where it is believed that the avg understanding of members is above average. What do Huduma centers do? From your lay man understanding? who will be managing since you seem to have insider information that my below average thinking can't decipher. The Huduma centers are like banking halls, you give the cashier your bank card and they transact according to what you want. They are just a service center The databases will be run under the ministry of ICT. There's an overhaul of govt systems going on....every govt dept was running their own show but for integrity purposes the Ministry of ICT is taking up the role of managing all govt data/databases/software and licensing for efficiency purposes. Remember how Alma was bashing GOK for being hacked This news cutting has the best summary Previously discussed here: http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...aspx?g=posts&t=37173"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:Whatâs the point of this whole card again? My assumption: After sometime u will have only 2 gvt issued docs. Id and passport. The rest NHIF, NSSF, Drivers license, pin, whathaveyou will be obsolete. Eventually, a huduma number will track a Kenyan from birth to death. Right now they are creating a database and my observations from what Mucheru said is they dont completely trust the data at the National Reg bureau. As you opined sometimes back, Kenyans share ID numbers. You can download a registration form online BUT that cannot be photocopied and used by anyone else....the form is serialized. Once you leave the asst chiefs office you leave with nothing just the docs you go with. Ie the docs mentioned above and title(s) So what if I donât want the cards? I am OK as I am... what happens? I have seen civil registry attempts in too many countries fail because they fail to make the citizen know what is in it for them. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:Whatâs the point of this whole card again? My assumption: After sometime u will have only 2 gvt issued docs. Id and passport. The rest NHIF, NSSF, Drivers license, pin, whathaveyou will be obsolete. Eventually, a huduma number will track a Kenyan from birth to death. Right now they are creating a database and my observations from what Mucheru said is they dont completely trust the data at the National Reg bureau. As you opined sometimes back, Kenyans share ID numbers. You can download a registration form online BUT that cannot be photocopied and used by anyone else....the form is serialized. Once you leave the asst chiefs office you leave with nothing just the docs you go with. Ie the docs mentioned above and title(s) So what if I donât want the cards? I am OK as I am... what happens? I have seen civil registry attempts in too many countries fail because they fail to make the citizen know what is in it got them. What if you do not want the Huduma ID (my understanding is that the other cards will be obsolete in sometime) so i think* you may not be able to access govt services (NHIF, NSSF, DL, Title deeds, etc) Lets say our banks decide that they will only use the huduma number then you might not be able to access banking services too. Again...my assumption yet to see how everything rolls out. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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I haven't forgotten being told by this government that laptops will be given to all class one kids.also being told that we have moved to cashless matatu payment system and cash Wont be acceptable in public service. Michuki rules will come back on 12 Nov 18.hot air .some body will make his money and the steam of registration will die.remind me on 19th August 2019. âThere is no such thing as government services. They are public services and constitutional entitlements with or without #HudumaNamba,â David Ndii punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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newfarer wrote:I haven't forgotten being told by this government that laptops will be given to all class one kids.also being told that we have moved to cashless matatu payment system and cash Wont be acceptable in public service. Michuki rules will come back on 12 Nov 18.hot air .some body will make his money and the steam of registration will die.remind me on 19th August 2019.
âThere is no such thing as government services. They are public services and constitutional entitlements with or without #HudumaNamba,â David Ndii Hahahaa.....Ndii is playing to the gallery. Try doing it and come tell us what happens "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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