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maka
#11621 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2019 1:15:33 PM
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Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...
possunt quia posse videntur
Impunity
#11622 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2019 1:25:23 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,325
Location: Masada
maka wrote:
Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...


What the hell...

You got some photos?
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ArrestedDev
#11623 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2019 2:57:44 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...


What the hell...

You got some photos?


Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations.

They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently.
maka
#11624 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2019 4:56:54 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...


What the hell...

You got some photos?


Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations.

They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently.









possunt quia posse videntur
drogon
#11625 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2019 5:38:51 PM
Rank: New-farer


Joined: 11/28/2018
Posts: 42
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...


What the hell...

You got some photos?


Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations.

They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently.











It doesn't look very bad/serious.
It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea.
😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon"
maka
#11626 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2019 8:53:12 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
drogon wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...


What the hell...

You got some photos?


Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations.

They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently.











It doesn't look very bad/serious.
It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea.
😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon"



He he he Drogon....
possunt quia posse videntur
ArrestedDev
#11627 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2019 6:47:53 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
drogon wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...


What the hell...

You got some photos?


Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations.

They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently.











It doesn't look very bad/serious.
It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea.
😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon"



He he he Drogon....


Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures.



maka
#11628 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2019 3:58:35 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
drogon wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...


What the hell...

You got some photos?


Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations.

They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently.











It doesn't look very bad/serious.
It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea.
😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon"



He he he Drogon....


Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures.





That's not the issue.... The issue is the ripple effect....
possunt quia posse videntur
VituVingiSana
#11629 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:19:53 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,038
Location: Nairobi
Someone needs to check on @Obiero.

ION, I hope KenRe isn't on the hook.
14 Riverside.
KQ.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
peep
#11630 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:53:29 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 3/30/2009
Posts: 56
ArrestedDev wrote:


Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures.


I don't think this is insurable. C4 checks require certain conditions which seem not to have been adhered to. There is a breather before the interruptions begin since the check takes minimum two weeks. So they programmed not to have the kites in that time. The funk will begin after the budgeted time. But with good route planning I suspect they will get away with it given that the load factor isn't 100% on all Embraer routes.
maka
#11631 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2019 8:45:57 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Someone needs to check on @Obiero.

ION, I hope KenRe isn't on the hook.
14 Riverside.
KQ.



He he he still recovering... First guy I sent the pics... Labda alienda Uhuru Park kwa Prophet Owuor
possunt quia posse videntur
hardwood
#11632 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2019 9:22:02 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
drogon wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...


What the hell...

You got some photos?


Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations.

They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently.











It doesn't look very bad/serious.
It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea.
😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon"



He he he Drogon....


Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures.





They have 3rd party insurance. Major problems ahead.Sad
hardwood
#11633 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2019 11:49:48 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
hardwood wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
drogon wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...


What the hell...

You got some photos?


Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations.

They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently.











It doesn't look very bad/serious.
It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea.
😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon"



He he he Drogon....


Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures.





They have 3rd party insurance. Major problems ahead.Sad


Habari ndio hiyo. @Obiero and fellow shareholders should be ready to dig deeper into their pockets to repair the two planes.

Aircraft Public Liability Insurance: This coverage, often referred to as third party liability covers aircraft owners for damage that their aircraft does to third party property, such as houses, cars, crops, airport facilities and other aircraft struck in a collision. It does not provide coverage for damage to the insured aircraft itself or coverage for passengers injured on the insured aircraft. Public liability insurance is mandatory in most countries.
maka
#11634 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2019 12:17:33 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
hardwood wrote:
hardwood wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
drogon wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...


What the hell...

You got some photos?


Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations.

They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently.











It doesn't look very bad/serious.
It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea.
😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon"



He he he Drogon....


Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures.





They have 3rd party insurance. Major problems ahead.Sad


Habari ndio hiyo. @Obiero and fellow shareholders should be ready to dig deeper into their pockets to repair the two planes.

Aircraft Public Liability Insurance: This coverage, often referred to as third party liability covers aircraft owners for damage that their aircraft does to third party property, such as houses, cars, crops, airport facilities and other aircraft struck in a collision. It does not provide coverage for damage to the insured aircraft itself or coverage for passengers injured on the insured aircraft. Public liability insurance is mandatory in most countries.


Lol I don't think this is true... If they were able to cough up USD 50m as insurance coz of Mogadishu it would be absurd if they hard 3rd party liability on the Embraers....
possunt quia posse videntur
hardwood
#11635 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2019 12:28:24 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
hardwood wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
drogon wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously...


What the hell...

You got some photos?


Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations.

They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently.







It doesn't look very bad/serious.
It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea.
😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon"



He he he Drogon....


Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures.





They have 3rd party insurance. Major problems ahead.Sad


Habari ndio hiyo. @Obiero and fellow shareholders should be ready to dig deeper into their pockets to repair the two planes.

Aircraft Public Liability Insurance: This coverage, often referred to as third party liability covers aircraft owners for damage that their aircraft does to third party property, such as houses, cars, crops, airport facilities and other aircraft struck in a collision. It does not provide coverage for damage to the insured aircraft itself or coverage for passengers injured on the insured aircraft. Public liability insurance is mandatory in most countries.


Lol I don't think this is true... If they were able to cough up USD 50m as insurance coz of Mogadishu it would be absurd if they hard 3rd party liability on the Embraers....


Then what category of insurance do they have?
hardwood
#11636 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2019 12:53:01 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
Which one do they have?

Aviation Insurance wrote:
Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:

Public liability insurance

Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.


Passenger liability insurance

This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.


Combined Single Limit (CSL)

This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground


Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.

This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.


Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)

This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.


In-flight insurance

The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion.
maka
#11637 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2019 1:59:29 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
hardwood wrote:
Which one do they have?

Aviation Insurance wrote:
Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:

Public liability insurance

Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.


Passenger liability insurance

This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.


Combined Single Limit (CSL)

This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground


Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.

This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.


Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)

This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.


In-flight insurance

The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion.


Give it time we will know....
possunt quia posse videntur
ArrestedDev
#11638 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2019 2:53:01 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Which one do they have?

Aviation Insurance wrote:
Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:

Public liability insurance

Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.


Passenger liability insurance

This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.


Combined Single Limit (CSL)

This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground


Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.

This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.


Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)

This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.


In-flight insurance

The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion.


Give it time we will know....


There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance.

One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago.
maka
#11639 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2019 11:32:10 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Which one do they have?

Aviation Insurance wrote:
Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:

Public liability insurance

Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.


Passenger liability insurance

This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.


Combined Single Limit (CSL)

This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground


Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.

This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.


Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)

This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.


In-flight insurance

The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion.


Give it time we will know....


There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance.

One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago.



KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about...
possunt quia posse videntur
ArrestedDev
#11640 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2019 3:17:12 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Which one do they have?

Aviation Insurance wrote:
Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:

Public liability insurance

Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.


Passenger liability insurance

This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.


Combined Single Limit (CSL)

This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground


Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.

This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.


Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)

This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.


In-flight insurance

The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion.


Give it time we will know....


There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance.

One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago.



KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about...


Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there?
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