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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/27/2019 Posts: 55 Location: Nbo
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Respectful ladies and gentlemen of Wazuans..I hear so many planning and building retirement homes "nyumbani".
But pips how is one supposed to fit in after living in Nairobi and environs for dog years then retiring to nyumbani..(shagz).remember the people you're going to live with huko nyumbani have their own culture,know each other very well as a community...one is practically a stranger!No wonder many get depressed once they retire "nyumbani".
For example how can I really retire to my home district of Mbeere in my sixties when I only go periodically to see my nana...and my kids to see their nana...how is one supposed to adjust to this new environment on retirement!!not realistic...
Thoughts pips?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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A retired civil servant once told me that one should invest in the city and forget about the village. Build/buy a home in the city and a few rentals then retire in the city to enjoy your pension and rental income.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Mbarire_2019 wrote:Respectful ladies and gentlemen of Wazuans..I hear so many planning and building retirement homes "nyumbani".
But pips how is one supposed to fit in after living in Nairobi and environs for dog years then retiring to nyumbani..(shagz).remember the people you're going to live with huko nyumbani have their own culture,know each other very well as a community...one is practically a stranger!No wonder many get depressed once they retire "nyumbani".
For example how can I really retire to my home district of Mbeere in my sixties when I only go periodically to see my nana...and my kids to see their nana...how is one supposed to adjust to this new environment on retirement!!not realistic...
Thoughts pips? As a retiree from Nairobi who is "loaded" and depending how interactive you're. Retirement life is hectic coz you will be a appointed and nominated to several "influential' positions -PTA chair -Church/school building committee chair -School BOG Chair -Funeral/school/hospital bills fundraising chair/treasurer -You and your home will turn into a venue host, hosting all manner of village meetings -Church treasurer. You will hold the above positions until a new retiree arrives or you become broke, whichever comes first If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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For me, it depends. when you retire, you should continue doing what you used to do. If you were working in the ministry of Education, when you retire, you go and write books in your area of expertise, or become a publisher... I do not know if retiring means to go sit and do nothing, just watch the sun rise and set?
So if your line of interest lies in the city then retire and remain in the city. If your line of interest cannot be done in the urban setup, then move to up country and continue your investment... Which applies to me. Rented out my real estate property and scaled out my farming outside the city.
One more advise which I learnt is, at your early age 20s or 30s, do not build your purported retirement home. Because by the age of 40s and 50s to 60s that house you built in 20s may not be appropriate anymore, or the place you have built may not be desirable to you anymore when you retire...
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/27/2016 Posts: 274 Location: Pub
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Mbarire_2019 wrote:Respectful ladies and gentlemen of Wazuans..I hear so many planning and building retirement homes "nyumbani".
But pips how is one supposed to fit in after living in Nairobi and environs for dog years then retiring to nyumbani..(shagz).remember the people you're going to live with huko nyumbani have their own culture,know each other very well as a community...one is practically a stranger!No wonder many get depressed once they retire "nyumbani".
For example how can I really retire to my home district of Mbeere in my sixties when I only go periodically to see my nana...and my kids to see their nana...how is one supposed to adjust to this new environment on retirement!!not realistic...
Thoughts pips? There are two different things in your statement 1. I hear so many planning and building retirement homes.... 2. ....homes "nyumbani". The problem with your statement is "number 2" and not "number 1" the best alternative is to plan and build in one of this Bloti Maguta Maguta aka Wamugundas haven...... all your problems of adjusting to Mbeere "number 2" will be sorted. i.e you can grow in Nairobi, Live in Nairobi and retire in Kajiado like Atwoli who has maisonettes all over kenya. If you are too tribal(by tribal i mean you cant build in Kitengela because its Maasai land and you Mbeere) or fear post elections go to Mbeere.... I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/27/2019 Posts: 55 Location: Nbo
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Excellent insights ladies and gentlemen....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Mbarire_2019 wrote:Respectful ladies and gentlemen of Wazuans..I hear so many planning and building retirement homes "nyumbani".
But pips how is one supposed to fit in after living in Nairobi and environs for dog years then retiring to nyumbani..(shagz).remember the people you're going to live with huko nyumbani have their own culture,know each other very well as a community...one is practically a stranger!No wonder many get depressed once they retire "nyumbani".
For example how can I really retire to my home district of Mbeere in my sixties when I only go periodically to see my nana...and my kids to see their nana...how is one supposed to adjust to this new environment on retirement!!not realistic...
Thoughts pips? Great topic! I've always wondered how people expect to fit in in communities they've not been part of But on the other hand, I've seen some retirees move to totally new areas, start new investments eg rentals and even start new careers e.g brokers, construction managers
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/27/2019 Posts: 55 Location: Nbo
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Ryko wrote:Mbarire_2019 wrote:Respectful ladies and gentlemen of Wazuans..I hear so many planning and building retirement homes "nyumbani".
But pips how is one supposed to fit in after living in Nairobi and environs for dog years then retiring to nyumbani..(shagz).remember the people you're going to live with huko nyumbani have their own culture,know each other very well as a community...one is practically a stranger!No wonder many get depressed once they retire "nyumbani".
For example how can I really retire to my home district of Mbeere in my sixties when I only go periodically to see my nana...and my kids to see their nana...how is one supposed to adjust to this new environment on retirement!!not realistic...
Thoughts pips? There are two different things in your statement 1. I hear so many planning and building retirement homes.... 2. ....homes "nyumbani". The problem with your statement is "number 2" and not "number 1" the best alternative is to plan and build in one of this Bloti Maguta Maguta aka Wamugundas haven...... all your problems of adjusting to Mbeere "number 2" will be sorted. i.e you can grow in Nairobi, Live in Nairobi and retire in Kajiado like Atwoli who has maisonettes all over kenya. If you are too tribal(by tribal i mean you cant build in Kitengela because its Maasai land and you Mbeere) or fear post elections go to Mbeere.... Thank you for the atwoli example...makes sense.as for being tribal never!we are able to integrate everywhere and with all tribes in Kenya after all we are only 100k of us (almost extinct....)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,589
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Mbarire_2019 wrote:Respectful ladies and gentlemen of Wazuans..I hear so many planning and building retirement homes "nyumbani".
But pips how is one supposed to fit in after living in Nairobi and environs for dog years then retiring to nyumbani..(shagz).remember the people you're going to live with huko nyumbani have their own culture,know each other very well as a community...one is practically a stranger!No wonder many get depressed once they retire "nyumbani".
For example how can I really retire to my home district of Mbeere in my sixties when I only go periodically to see my nana...and my kids to see their nana...how is one supposed to adjust to this new environment on retirement!!not realistic...
Thoughts pips? I live in a community of Nairobi retirees and also taken care of retirees majuu and that's not a life I would want in my retirement. Most of the time they walk around gossiping or if not they are in church or they go to the golf club. Shagz is much better you have plenty of places to go. In your sixties you need to be physically active or you will age very fast. In shagz you can go for a walk or do some work on the farm or supervise farm workers or drive in the countryside. I grew up in Nairobi and never ever would I want to retire in this messy place.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/27/2019 Posts: 55 Location: Nbo
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wukan wrote:Mbarire_2019 wrote:Respectful ladies and gentlemen of Wazuans..I hear so many planning and building retirement homes "nyumbani".
But pips how is one supposed to fit in after living in Nairobi and environs for dog years then retiring to nyumbani..(shagz).remember the people you're going to live with huko nyumbani have their own culture,know each other very well as a community...one is practically a stranger!No wonder many get depressed once they retire "nyumbani".
For example how can I really retire to my home district of Mbeere in my sixties when I only go periodically to see my nana...and my kids to see their nana...how is one supposed to adjust to this new environment on retirement!!not realistic...
Thoughts pips? I live in a community of Nairobi retirees and also taken care of retirees majuu and that's not a life I would want in my retirement. Most of the time they walk around gossiping or if not they are in church or they go to the golf club. Shagz is much better you have plenty of places to go. In your sixties you need to be physically active or you will age very fast. In shagz you can go for a walk or do some work on the farm or supervise farm workers or drive in the countryside. I grew up in Nairobi and never ever would I want to retire in this messy place. Hmmmm.... 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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good one but no comment.right now dealing with vanity of life in midlife.. punda amecheka
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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@mbarire people always tell us" life is short, enjoy it". I believe this is a big lie. Life is looooooong. As such, I always plan with the longest possible time frame in mind. Those are the plans most likely to succeed. Imagine, at so called 40, midlife, most people have been working for a mere 15yrs. It feels like you have been at it for ever. But you have 20yrs to get to retirement at 60yrs. On retirement, you may feel like you are old and need to go rest. But in reality, you probably have another 25yrs or so of active life, active brain and body. So, at 40, beginning to plan for life at 60. It pays. If you see your retirement in shags, maybe there is an ancestral home there, begin to know your neighbours now. Attend those funerals and weddings. Join school pta. Sponsor a local child or 2. We spend 25yrs of life preparing for 35 yrs of working life. We should also exert some effort to prepare for 25yrs of retirement life. Save, invest in a town house if possible. The rent will come in handy later. If town is where your heart is. Its ok. Just plan carefully, save, invest as much as possible, make sure retirement does not catch you paying rent or mortgage. Work on your hobby that can keep you busy in retirement. All said and done, I think its easier to retire in shags just from an economic perspective. Thats why most people end up there. They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 467 Location: Nairobi
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Wherever you retire please don't retire in a 17 floor Great Wall flats where your neighbors are 25 year olds dundaing every other night.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/27/2019 Posts: 55 Location: Nbo
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tom_boy wrote:@mbarire people always tell us" life is short, enjoy it". I believe this is a big lie. Life is looooooong. As such, I always plan with the longest possible time frame in mind. Those are the plans most likely to succeed.
Imagine, at so called 40, midlife, most people have been working for a mere 15yrs. It feels like you have been at it for ever. But you have 20yrs to get to retirement at 60yrs.
On retirement, you may feel like you are old and need to go rest. But in reality, you probably have another 25yrs or so of active life, active brain and body.
So, at 40, beginning to plan for life at 60. It pays. If you see your retirement in shags, maybe there is an ancestral home there, begin to know your neighbours now. Attend those funerals and weddings. Join school pta. Sponsor a local child or 2. We spend 25yrs of life preparing for 35 yrs of working life. We should also exert some effort to prepare for 25yrs of retirement life.
Save, invest in a town house if possible. The rent will come in handy later.
If town is where your heart is. Its ok. Just plan carefully, save, invest as much as possible, make sure retirement does not catch you paying rent or mortgage. Work on your hobby that can keep you busy in retirement.
All said and done, I think its easier to retire in shags just from an economic perspective. Thats why most people end up there. Spot on! Asante
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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In addition to financial preparedness, there is health preparedness. There are very few if any obese 90yr olds. If one is around 40yrs, they have anothet potential 45yrs to live. Why do you want to spend your last 20yrs with arthritis, diabetes, hypertension and other lifestyle diseases. If you can do something to avoid them, start doing it now and make it a lifestyle. They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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Perspective my fren, perspective. They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Now you know why kifaki has never gone to mweiga or othaya after retirement. He'd rather retire in muthaiga where he has lived nearly all his adult life. Retiring in the village after working/living in the city nearly all your life is a no no.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,589
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hardwood wrote:Now you know why kifaki has never gone to mweiga or othaya after retirement. He'd rather retire in muthaiga where he has lived nearly all his adult life. Retiring in the village after working/living in the city nearly all your life is a no no. Say what?? Quote:There was speculation on whether Kibaki would ever occupy the palatial home after showing preference for urban life even after retiring from the presidency. But now, the 85-year-old golfer who had initially operated from Muthaiga in Nairobi, has become a common figure in Nyeri, causing excitement among residents. Kibaki, a devout Catholic, attends Sunday mass at Our Lady of Consolata Cathedral in Nyeri town, standing shoulder to shoulder with his one time voters. A convoy of sleek vehicles and hawk eyed security personnel announces Kibaki’s presence at the church. Unlike his years as the head of state, Kibaki opts not to address the congregants and retreats behind the gates and the perimeter wall of the forested Mweiga property located on the Nyeri- Nyahururu highway. https://www.standardmedi...-years-after-retirement
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:Now you know why kifaki has never gone to mweiga or othaya after retirement. He'd rather retire in muthaiga where he has lived nearly all his adult life. Retiring in the village after working/living in the city nearly all your life is a no no. Say what?? Quote:There was speculation on whether Kibaki would ever occupy the palatial home after showing preference for urban life even after retiring from the presidency. But now, the 85-year-old golfer who had initially operated from Muthaiga in Nairobi, has become a common figure in Nyeri, causing excitement among residents. Kibaki, a devout Catholic, attends Sunday mass at Our Lady of Consolata Cathedral in Nyeri town, standing shoulder to shoulder with his one time voters. A convoy of sleek vehicles and hawk eyed security personnel announces Kibaki’s presence at the church. Unlike his years as the head of state, Kibaki opts not to address the congregants and retreats behind the gates and the perimeter wall of the forested Mweiga property located on the Nyeri- Nyahururu highway. https://www.standardmedi...-years-after-retirement
From your link... Quote:Saturday Standard was unable to get the former president or his family to comment on his frequent trips to Nyeri but Mr Ngari Gituku, who served as Kibaki’s spokesperson, said he still prefers urban life.
“He will go to Nyeri when there is an occasion and then will sleep over if he wants to go to church in Nyeri the following day. But moving to Nyeri permanently is a tall order,” Gituku said.
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