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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... What the hell... You got some photos? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... What the hell... You got some photos? Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations. They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... What the hell... You got some photos? Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations. They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/28/2018 Posts: 42 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... What the hell... You got some photos? Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations. They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently. It doesn't look very bad/serious. It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea. 😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon"
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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drogon wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... What the hell... You got some photos? Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations. They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently. It doesn't look very bad/serious. It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea. 😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon" He he he Drogon.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:drogon wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... What the hell... You got some photos? Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations. They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently. It doesn't look very bad/serious. It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea. 😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon" He he he Drogon.... Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:drogon wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... What the hell... You got some photos? Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations. They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently. It doesn't look very bad/serious. It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea. 😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon" He he he Drogon.... Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures. That's not the issue.... The issue is the ripple effect.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,049 Location: Nairobi
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Someone needs to check on @Obiero. ION, I hope KenRe isn't on the hook. 14 Riverside. KQ. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/30/2009 Posts: 56
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ArrestedDev wrote:
Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures.
I don't think this is insurable. C4 checks require certain conditions which seem not to have been adhered to. There is a breather before the interruptions begin since the check takes minimum two weeks. So they programmed not to have the kites in that time. The funk will begin after the budgeted time. But with good route planning I suspect they will get away with it given that the load factor isn't 100% on all Embraer routes.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Someone needs to check on @Obiero.
ION, I hope KenRe isn't on the hook. 14 Riverside. KQ. He he he still recovering... First guy I sent the pics... Labda alienda Uhuru Park kwa Prophet Owuor possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:drogon wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... What the hell... You got some photos? Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations. They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently. It doesn't look very bad/serious. It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea. 😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon" He he he Drogon.... Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures. They have 3rd party insurance. Major problems ahead.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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hardwood wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:drogon wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... What the hell... You got some photos? Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations. They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently. It doesn't look very bad/serious. It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea. 😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon" He he he Drogon.... Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures. They have 3rd party insurance. Major problems ahead. Habari ndio hiyo. @Obiero and fellow shareholders should be ready to dig deeper into their pockets to repair the two planes. Aircraft Public Liability Insurance: This coverage, often referred to as third party liability covers aircraft owners for damage that their aircraft does to third party property, such as houses, cars, crops, airport facilities and other aircraft struck in a collision. It does not provide coverage for damage to the insured aircraft itself or coverage for passengers injured on the insured aircraft. Public liability insurance is mandatory in most countries.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:hardwood wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:drogon wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... What the hell... You got some photos? Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations. They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently. It doesn't look very bad/serious. It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea. 😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon" He he he Drogon.... Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures. They have 3rd party insurance. Major problems ahead. Habari ndio hiyo. @Obiero and fellow shareholders should be ready to dig deeper into their pockets to repair the two planes. Aircraft Public Liability Insurance: This coverage, often referred to as third party liability covers aircraft owners for damage that their aircraft does to third party property, such as houses, cars, crops, airport facilities and other aircraft struck in a collision. It does not provide coverage for damage to the insured aircraft itself or coverage for passengers injured on the insured aircraft. Public liability insurance is mandatory in most countries. Lol I don't think this is true... If they were able to cough up USD 50m as insurance coz of Mogadishu it would be absurd if they hard 3rd party liability on the Embraers.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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maka wrote:hardwood wrote:hardwood wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:drogon wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Two Embraers have been seriously damaged and will be out for the better part of the year... 5Y-KYR was being serviced and on choks a mishap happened and it ran over the choks trying to steer it from hitting the hangar walls it hit 5Y - FFF and both were damaged seriously... What the hell... You got some photos? Eeeeh, that’s serious. It may lead to flight cancellations. They might have to lease replacement aircraft urgently. It doesn't look very bad/serious. It just needs some panel-beating na mtu wa kuchomelea. 😁 😁 Wapeleke pale grogon" He he he Drogon.... Insurance will cover. I hope it is not a KQ staff who failed to follow standard safety procedures. They have 3rd party insurance. Major problems ahead. Habari ndio hiyo. @Obiero and fellow shareholders should be ready to dig deeper into their pockets to repair the two planes. Aircraft Public Liability Insurance: This coverage, often referred to as third party liability covers aircraft owners for damage that their aircraft does to third party property, such as houses, cars, crops, airport facilities and other aircraft struck in a collision. It does not provide coverage for damage to the insured aircraft itself or coverage for passengers injured on the insured aircraft. Public liability insurance is mandatory in most countries. Lol I don't think this is true... If they were able to cough up USD 50m as insurance coz of Mogadishu it would be absurd if they hard 3rd party liability on the Embraers.... Then what category of insurance do they have?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there?
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