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VituVingiSana		#41 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2019 9:31:26 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi		Others Stanbic - Given SAHL has OPENLY expressed its interest in buying upto 74.99% of Stanbic Kenya, chances are high that one day SAHL will try to go for 90% and then delist. Express - The Diniz guy will probably try another takeover or another delisting attempt. Unga - One attempt was made. What are the chances another will be made? Carbacid - Either a takeover will be attempted OR after the mzee leaves, the kids (just like CFC, KK) will sell out. Barclays/ABSA - Will ABSA want to remain listed at the country level? Look at Stanbic for clues given they are both SA banks. We do not know when but if we believe in the firm, as a long-term investment, and buy at a fair/cheap price then there is money to be made. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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xtina		#42 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2019 12:52:09 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 399		VituVingiSana wrote: Others Stanbic - Given SAHL has OPENLY expressed its interest in buying upto 74.99% of Stanbic Kenya, chances are high that one day SAHL will try to go for 90% and then delist. Express - The Diniz guy will probably try another takeover or another delisting attempt. Unga - One attempt was made. What are the chances another will be made? Carbacid - Either a takeover will be attempted OR after the mzee leaves, the kids (just like CFC, KK) will sell out. Barclays/ABSA - Will ABSA want to remain listed at the country level? Look at Stanbic for clues given they are both SA banks. We do not know when but if we believe in the firm, as a long-term investment, and buy at a fair/cheap price then there is money to be made. At some point you also talked about I&M....
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jokes		#43 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2019 2:06:13 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2008 Posts: 323		Murenju wrote: jokes wrote: All i know is that when you are faced with a businessman know that you are facing a gangster in a suit. Over generalization . There are genuine businessmen dressed well. Nevertheless, I am glad this calibre of smart thugs are being exposed and hopefully will have their day with the judge. I did but business is not what we are taught in schools. In real life its different. I will give just one example with a question, where did bill gates get windows?
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VituVingiSana		#44 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2019 3:55:44 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi		xtina wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: Others Stanbic - Given SAHL has OPENLY expressed its interest in buying upto 74.99% of Stanbic Kenya, chances are high that one day SAHL will try to go for 90% and then delist. Express - The Diniz guy will probably try another takeover or another delisting attempt. Unga - One attempt was made. What are the chances another will be made? Carbacid - Either a takeover will be attempted OR after the mzee leaves, the kids (just like CFC, KK) will sell out. Barclays/ABSA - Will ABSA want to remain listed at the country level? Look at Stanbic for clues given they are both SA banks. We do not know when but if we believe in the firm, as a long-term investment, and buy at a fair/cheap price then there is money to be made. At some point you also talked about I&M.... I have many, many posts. Please shed more light on what specifically you are referring to. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Fyatu		#45 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2019 8:20:02 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru		VituVingiSana wrote: Fyatu wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: Fyatu wrote: MugundaMan wrote: I always knew from his rambling podcasts that there was something fishy about this tunjamaaa His fairytale story of working for top tier companies with zero finance training did not add up. Nor (as someone in this forum pointed out) does any genuinely rich person call his company "Rich Inc". Only vain mafioso type cretins like such garish titles to their companies. He must have minted his pile with these insider trading manenos huko London then came to masquerade as a financial guru hapa. To date we have not heard of any stellar investments in the NSE that led to him minting a fortune in it. Just wild punditry on TV everywhere with no basis. Needless to say am not surprised amengamatwa. Siku za mwizi.... Moral of the story nobody ever got rich in a legit way simply trading stocks. Even pedo Buffett has a dark history and doesnt even trade stocks anymore but is a corporate activist who takes over companies and puts them under his control...that's not stock trading at all. Add Burbridge and Kestrel capital.....wakora tupu. What did Burbidge and Kestrel do to you? Atlas Africa Industries and Kenol Kobil insider trading Either we all got conned by Atlas or the circumstances changed esp with the oil prices dropping. I sold out at a loss. have since become skeptical of these pre-IPO pitches. On Kestrel and KK: I don't know if Kestrel is really liable. Kestrel did issue a research report (public info) mid-2018 about KK's true value being 24. The Rubis offer was 23 so folks could have acted on it. I have been telling folks about KK for years. No insider info. Just logic. Ohana cleaned up Segman's hedging mess. He settled lawsuits. Then he cleaned up the KPRL debts. He ditched low-margin businesses when financing was tight. He paid down debt. Sold off loss-making TZ but expanded in profitable RW/BU/UG and KE. The biwott croaked. The next "move" was staring us in the face. Look through the long-running KK thread. There were false starts and finally Rubis came into the picture. Fair enough Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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bartum		#46 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:05:50 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,011 Location: nairobi		Bought one time kk at 9.10 and felt i paid premium sold at 11
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VituVingiSana		#47 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:35:43 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi		bartum wrote: Bought one time kk at 9.10 and felt i paid premium sold at 11 It's all good. I hope you reinvested the 11/- into another good investment. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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bartum		#48 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 11:26:59 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,011 Location: nairobi		VituVingiSana wrote: bartum wrote: Bought one time kk at 9.10 and felt i paid premium sold at 11 It's all good. I hope you reinvested the 11/- into another good investment. Did but would have been better at kk, was 7 figure shares,
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VituVingiSana		#49 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 11:33:03 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi		bartum wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: bartum wrote: Bought one time kk at 9.10 and felt i paid premium sold at 11 It's all good. I hope you reinvested the 11/- into another good investment. Did but would have been better at kk, was 7 figure shares, Wow! That's a huge portfolio. Nice. Too bad you missed out but who knew? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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SINAMAKOSA		#50 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:35:55 PM
Rank: Hello Joined: 6/28/2016 Posts: 2 Location: COLLIN COUNTY		KENOLKOBIL Quantity: 93,600 Weighted Average 9.91 Market Price: 21.40 Market Value: 2,003,040.00 Profit/Loss: 1,075,641.84 Profit/Loss %115.98. Muchas Gracias @VVS.
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