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Centum Full Year results 2017/2018
VituVingiSana
#151 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 10:33:12 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Gaining on speculative volume.

Sina chapaa but I believe in it for the medium term. Sina insider info Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I read the Annual Report and the Investor Presentation.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ebenyo
#152 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2019 10:30:56 AM
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Total. liabilities-45,391,000

Total equity-50,897,000

Debt to equity ratio-89%
Towards the goal of financial freedom
VituVingiSana
#153 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2019 10:56:43 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Total. liabilities-45,391,000

Total equity-50,897,000

Debt to equity ratio-89%

From the Debt you should deduct the cash (and liquid assets) they have.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ebenyo
#154 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2019 3:22:50 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Total. liabilities-45,391,000

Total equity-50,897,000

Debt to equity ratio-89%

From the Debt you should deduct the cash (and liquid assets) they have.




That means there is some sort of reliance on sidian bank which is loss making.
The amount you are saying is titled customer deposit which is 12,832,000.
kwani sidian bank only have 12m in deposits?
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Ericsson
#155 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2019 3:31:00 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Total. liabilities-45,391,000

Total equity-50,897,000

Debt to equity ratio-89%

From the Debt you should deduct the cash (and liquid assets) they have.




That means there is some sort of reliance on sidian bank which is loss making.
The amount you are saying is titled customer deposit which is 12,832,000.
kwani sidian bank only have 12m in deposits?

As per FY2017 results yes
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#156 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2019 8:14:17 PM
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Trash

KQ ABP 4.26
Ericsson
#157 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2019 10:08:14 PM
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obiero wrote:
Trash


It is fattened for slaughter
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#158 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2019 10:25:16 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Trash


It is fattened for slaughter

Clear manipulation on the provisions as well as commission and fees

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#159 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2019 1:05:00 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Total. liabilities-45,391,000

Total equity-50,897,000

Debt to equity ratio-89%

From the Debt you should deduct the cash (and liquid assets) they have.


That means there is some sort of reliance on sidian bank which is loss making.
The amount you are saying is titled customer deposit which is 12,832,000.
kwani sidian bank only have 12m in deposits?

Customer Deposits are 12.8 BILLION.
From the 45bn you should deduct the portion at that attributable to bank deposits and bank borrowings given these are not obligations of Centum and Centum does not have direct access to these funds.
As an example: If HF goes under, then Britam loses its deposits at HF and the % of its portion of shareholders capital.

45bn - 12.8bn - 3.2bn = 29bn
* Deferred Income Tax may or may no be considered a liability for this calculation given it only mature if there is a taxable event.

There are other "Minority Shareholders" in the group so let's look at the D:E Ratio for the "Company" which is more representative.
Debt: 17.4bn
Equity: 48.7bn
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#160 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2019 1:13:04 AM
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obiero wrote:
Trash

Thanks for this information. Very kind of you.
Sidian Bank posts Sh22 million profit on income jump
https://www.businessdail...4136-wmn7jvz/index.html

I am glad that Sidian has posted its first quarterly profit as far as I can remember after the interest rate cap. This Jan-Mar 2019 results will contribute to the FY19 results for Centum. Applause

Let's see how 2Q shapes up but if Sidian keeps up the good work then I see a ongoing contributions to Centum's FY19-23 results.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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