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President Uhuru Kenyatta 2nd Term - 2017/2022
tom_boy
#211 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2019 9:19:24 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

I have found myself empathizing more and more with Uhuru. He genuinely seems concerned with delivering a legacy. Sadly, he is surrounded by wolves and his anger is understandable. It can get lonely at the top.

On Friday he was at Kitengela and in a moment of anger blurted something in Kikuyu. Today while inspecting the Isinya-Kiserian road, also responded to some guys who greeted him in Kikuyu. As a Kiuk it make me uncomfortable. Gives fodder to those who know how to play the anti-kiuk card.


Yes. I also sympathise but for a different reason. Uhuru is incapable of being a president. Yaani he has no leadership DNA, not even a drop. Has never achieved anything independently in his life. Not even trusted to run the family business. What did we expect? When it comes to leadership, Ruto and Baba outclass his by a thousand miles, thus I feel his frustration. He is reduced to ranting and drowning his sorrows. Leadership requires knowing where you want to go and having the courage to forge the path. I fear he lacks courage.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
FRM2011
#212 Posted : Monday, February 04, 2019 2:09:37 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I have found myself empathizing more and more with Uhuru. He genuinely seems concerned with delivering a legacy. Sadly, he is surrounded by wolves and his anger is understandable. It can get lonely at the top.

On Friday he was at Kitengela and in a moment of anger blurted something in Kikuyu. Today while inspecting the Isinya-Kiserian road, also responded to some guys who greeted him in Kikuyu. As a Kiuk it make me uncomfortable. Gives fodder to those who know how to play the anti-kiuk card.


Yes. I also sympathise but for a different reason. Uhuru is incapable of being a president. Yaani he has no leadership DNA, not even a drop. Has never achieved anything independently in his life. Not even trusted to run the family business. What did we expect? When it comes to leadership, Ruto and Baba outclass his by a thousand miles, thus I feel his frustration. He is reduced to ranting and drowning his sorrows. Leadership requires knowing where you want to go and having the courage to forge the path. I fear he lacks courage.


We had been singing this song with @alma for a long time. Personally I was a Rao guy. But its too late in the day to whine. Now we must support, pray and wish that Uhuru will succeed. Our parent's generation lost their prime years to Moi's misrule. We were lucky to experience the miracle of Kibaki years. The worst we can do is to condemn ourselves and our kids to a life of misery until 2032. 10 years of Ruto will leave a damage that might need 50 years to undo.
tom_boy
#213 Posted : Monday, February 04, 2019 3:04:29 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I have found myself empathizing more and more with Uhuru. He genuinely seems concerned with delivering a legacy. Sadly, he is surrounded by wolves and his anger is understandable. It can get lonely at the top.

On Friday he was at Kitengela and in a moment of anger blurted something in Kikuyu. Today while inspecting the Isinya-Kiserian road, also responded to some guys who greeted him in Kikuyu. As a Kiuk it make me uncomfortable. Gives fodder to those who know how to play the anti-kiuk card.


Yes. I also sympathise but for a different reason. Uhuru is incapable of being a president. Yaani he has no leadership DNA, not even a drop. Has never achieved anything independently in his life. Not even trusted to run the family business. What did we expect? When it comes to leadership, Ruto and Baba outclass his by a thousand miles, thus I feel his frustration. He is reduced to ranting and drowning his sorrows. Leadership requires knowing where you want to go and having the courage to forge the path. I fear he lacks courage.


We had been singing this song with @alma for a long time. Personally I was a Rao guy. But its too late in the day to whine. Now we must support, pray and wish that Uhuru will succeed. Our parent's generation lost their prime years to Moi's misrule. We were lucky to experience the miracle of Kibaki years. The worst we can do is to condemn ourselves and our kids to a life of misery until 2032. 10 years of Ruto will leave a damage that might need 50 years to undo.


Well put.
I have never voted for uhuru at any election simply because I did not see any evidence of leadership in him. A Ruto presidency would be disastrous. Whereas with Uhuru we are rudderless with Ruto, we shall be like a speedboat headed straight to damnation.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
2012
#214 Posted : Monday, February 04, 2019 3:19:19 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I have found myself empathizing more and more with Uhuru. He genuinely seems concerned with delivering a legacy. Sadly, he is surrounded by wolves and his anger is understandable. It can get lonely at the top.

On Friday he was at Kitengela and in a moment of anger blurted something in Kikuyu. Today while inspecting the Isinya-Kiserian road, also responded to some guys who greeted him in Kikuyu. As a Kiuk it make me uncomfortable. Gives fodder to those who know how to play the anti-kiuk card.


Yes. I also sympathise but for a different reason. Uhuru is incapable of being a president. Yaani he has no leadership DNA, not even a drop. Has never achieved anything independently in his life. Not even trusted to run the family business. What did we expect? When it comes to leadership, Ruto and Baba outclass his by a thousand miles, thus I feel his frustration. He is reduced to ranting and drowning his sorrows. Leadership requires knowing where you want to go and having the courage to forge the path. I fear he lacks courage.


We had been singing this song with @alma for a long time. Personally I was a Rao guy. But its too late in the day to whine. Now we must support, pray and wish that Uhuru will succeed. Our parent's generation lost their prime years to Moi's misrule. We were lucky to experience the miracle of Kibaki years. The worst we can do is to condemn ourselves and our kids to a life of misery until 2032. 10 years of Ruto will leave a damage that might need 50 years to undo.


Well put.
I have never voted for uhuru at any election simply because I did not see any evidence of leadership in him. A Ruto presidency would be disastrous. Whereas with Uhuru we are rudderless with Ruto, we shall be like a speedboat headed straight to damnation.


Really? What kind of evidence should we be looking for? Between UK, Rao, Kalonzo, Ruto, Mdvd, who would you say has experience if you could give us examples? Hakuna. Kibaki was an economicst but not great in politics. Moi was a good politician but terrible everything else.

I agree though that UK has failed to deliver but I don't think the alternative would have done better either.

BBI will solve it
:)
FRM2011
#215 Posted : Monday, February 04, 2019 6:02:49 PM
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2012 wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I have found myself empathizing more and more with Uhuru. He genuinely seems concerned with delivering a legacy. Sadly, he is surrounded by wolves and his anger is understandable. It can get lonely at the top.

On Friday he was at Kitengela and in a moment of anger blurted something in Kikuyu. Today while inspecting the Isinya-Kiserian road, also responded to some guys who greeted him in Kikuyu. As a Kiuk it make me uncomfortable. Gives fodder to those who know how to play the anti-kiuk card.


Yes. I also sympathise but for a different reason. Uhuru is incapable of being a president. Yaani he has no leadership DNA, not even a drop. Has never achieved anything independently in his life. Not even trusted to run the family business. What did we expect? When it comes to leadership, Ruto and Baba outclass his by a thousand miles, thus I feel his frustration. He is reduced to ranting and drowning his sorrows. Leadership requires knowing where you want to go and having the courage to forge the path. I fear he lacks courage.


We had been singing this song with @alma for a long time. Personally I was a Rao guy. But its too late in the day to whine. Now we must support, pray and wish that Uhuru will succeed. Our parent's generation lost their prime years to Moi's misrule. We were lucky to experience the miracle of Kibaki years. The worst we can do is to condemn ourselves and our kids to a life of misery until 2032. 10 years of Ruto will leave a damage that might need 50 years to undo.


Well put.
I have never voted for uhuru at any election simply because I did not see any evidence of leadership in him. A Ruto presidency would be disastrous. Whereas with Uhuru we are rudderless with Ruto, we shall be like a speedboat headed straight to damnation.


Really? What kind of evidence should we be looking for? Between UK, Rao, Kalonzo, Ruto, Mdvd, who would you say has experience if you could give us examples? Hakuna. Kibaki was an economicst but not great in politics. Moi was a good politician but terrible everything else.

I agree though that UK has failed to deliver but I don't think the alternative would have done better either.


Boss, I guess what @tomboy is saying is that the evidence against Uhuru was overwhelming. He comes from the wealthiest family in Kenya and nobody had ever given him any responsibility in managing the vast empire. But for now we are in a hole, we just need to figure out how to climb out.
2012
#216 Posted : Monday, February 04, 2019 6:25:57 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
2012 wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I have found myself empathizing more and more with Uhuru. He genuinely seems concerned with delivering a legacy. Sadly, he is surrounded by wolves and his anger is understandable. It can get lonely at the top.

On Friday he was at Kitengela and in a moment of anger blurted something in Kikuyu. Today while inspecting the Isinya-Kiserian road, also responded to some guys who greeted him in Kikuyu. As a Kiuk it make me uncomfortable. Gives fodder to those who know how to play the anti-kiuk card.


Yes. I also sympathise but for a different reason. Uhuru is incapable of being a president. Yaani he has no leadership DNA, not even a drop. Has never achieved anything independently in his life. Not even trusted to run the family business. What did we expect? When it comes to leadership, Ruto and Baba outclass his by a thousand miles, thus I feel his frustration. He is reduced to ranting and drowning his sorrows. Leadership requires knowing where you want to go and having the courage to forge the path. I fear he lacks courage.


We had been singing this song with @alma for a long time. Personally I was a Rao guy. But its too late in the day to whine. Now we must support, pray and wish that Uhuru will succeed. Our parent's generation lost their prime years to Moi's misrule. We were lucky to experience the miracle of Kibaki years. The worst we can do is to condemn ourselves and our kids to a life of misery until 2032. 10 years of Ruto will leave a damage that might need 50 years to undo.


Well put.
I have never voted for uhuru at any election simply because I did not see any evidence of leadership in him. A Ruto presidency would be disastrous. Whereas with Uhuru we are rudderless with Ruto, we shall be like a speedboat headed straight to damnation.


Really? What kind of evidence should we be looking for? Between UK, Rao, Kalonzo, Ruto, Mdvd, who would you say has experience if you could give us examples? Hakuna. Kibaki was an economicst but not great in politics. Moi was a good politician but terrible everything else.

I agree though that UK has failed to deliver but I don't think the alternative would have done better either.


Boss, I guess what @tomboy is saying is that the evidence against Uhuru was overwhelming. He comes from the wealthiest family in Kenya and nobody had ever given him any responsibility in managing the vast empire. But for now we are in a hole, we just need to figure out how to climb out.



I get you and I'm also saying that the people who hav a good chance of being elected president the Kenyan tribal way, have no experience nor qualifications to build a successful nation. The ones who do can never win. Kibaki was just lucky because of baba and the "Kibaki tosha" otherwise UK and Moi would have won 2002 as well.

BBI will solve it
:)
tom_boy
#217 Posted : Monday, February 04, 2019 6:51:39 PM
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2012 wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
2012 wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I have found myself empathizing more and more with Uhuru. He genuinely seems concerned with delivering a legacy. Sadly, he is surrounded by wolves and his anger is understandable. It can get lonely at the top.

On Friday he was at Kitengela and in a moment of anger blurted something in Kikuyu. Today while inspecting the Isinya-Kiserian road, also responded to some guys who greeted him in Kikuyu. As a Kiuk it make me uncomfortable. Gives fodder to those who know how to play the anti-kiuk card.


Yes. I also sympathise but for a different reason. Uhuru is incapable of being a president. Yaani he has no leadership DNA, not even a drop. Has never achieved anything independently in his life. Not even trusted to run the family business. What did we expect? When it comes to leadership, Ruto and Baba outclass his by a thousand miles, thus I feel his frustration. He is reduced to ranting and drowning his sorrows. Leadership requires knowing where you want to go and having the courage to forge the path. I fear he lacks courage.


We had been singing this song with @alma for a long time. Personally I was a Rao guy. But its too late in the day to whine. Now we must support, pray and wish that Uhuru will succeed. Our parent's generation lost their prime years to Moi's misrule. We were lucky to experience the miracle of Kibaki years. The worst we can do is to condemn ourselves and our kids to a life of misery until 2032. 10 years of Ruto will leave a damage that might need 50 years to undo.


Well put.
I have never voted for uhuru at any election simply because I did not see any evidence of leadership in him. A Ruto presidency would be disastrous. Whereas with Uhuru we are rudderless with Ruto, we shall be like a speedboat headed straight to damnation.


Really? What kind of evidence should we be looking for? Between UK, Rao, Kalonzo, Ruto, Mdvd, who would you say has experience if you could give us examples? Hakuna. Kibaki was an economicst but not great in politics. Moi was a good politician but terrible everything else.

I agree though that UK has failed to deliver but I don't think the alternative would have done better either.


Boss, I guess what @tomboy is saying is that the evidence against Uhuru was overwhelming. He comes from the wealthiest family in Kenya and nobody had ever given him any responsibility in managing the vast empire. But for now we are in a hole, we just need to figure out how to climb out.



I get you and I'm also saying that the people who hav a good chance of being elected president the Kenyan tribal way, have no experience nor qualifications to build a successful nation. The ones who do can never win. Kibaki was just lucky because of baba and the "Kibaki tosha" otherwise UK and Moi would have won 2002 as well.



At the risk of being called all sorts of names by some folks here, I will declare without a shudder of fear, that BABA would have done better than Uhunye. I am not even from lakeside so its not tribal.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
Angelica _ann
#218 Posted : Monday, February 04, 2019 7:07:55 PM
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You guys better make do with what you have as PORK & his team because you have no say whatsoever on them. Ruto next Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Just get ways of making money and investing as an individual. Forget the bloody country, this one is doomed.

We were promised that devolution will change things, wapi? Yet majority of Governors are leaving in 2022 having done thing but eat and a new crop of eaters with grace the scene.

Hapa ni kujitegemea my friends. I stopped crying for the country and nowadays just work towards improving my nucleus net-worth.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
2012
#219 Posted : Monday, February 04, 2019 8:09:43 PM
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Joined: 12/9/2009
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Location: Nairobi
tom_boy wrote:
2012 wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
2012 wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I have found myself empathizing more and more with Uhuru. He genuinely seems concerned with delivering a legacy. Sadly, he is surrounded by wolves and his anger is understandable. It can get lonely at the top.

On Friday he was at Kitengela and in a moment of anger blurted something in Kikuyu. Today while inspecting the Isinya-Kiserian road, also responded to some guys who greeted him in Kikuyu. As a Kiuk it make me uncomfortable. Gives fodder to those who know how to play the anti-kiuk card.


Yes. I also sympathise but for a different reason. Uhuru is incapable of being a president. Yaani he has no leadership DNA, not even a drop. Has never achieved anything independently in his life. Not even trusted to run the family business. What did we expect? When it comes to leadership, Ruto and Baba outclass his by a thousand miles, thus I feel his frustration. He is reduced to ranting and drowning his sorrows. Leadership requires knowing where you want to go and having the courage to forge the path. I fear he lacks courage.


We had been singing this song with @alma for a long time. Personally I was a Rao guy. But its too late in the day to whine. Now we must support, pray and wish that Uhuru will succeed. Our parent's generation lost their prime years to Moi's misrule. We were lucky to experience the miracle of Kibaki years. The worst we can do is to condemn ourselves and our kids to a life of misery until 2032. 10 years of Ruto will leave a damage that might need 50 years to undo.


Well put.
I have never voted for uhuru at any election simply because I did not see any evidence of leadership in him. A Ruto presidency would be disastrous. Whereas with Uhuru we are rudderless with Ruto, we shall be like a speedboat headed straight to damnation.


Really? What kind of evidence should we be looking for? Between UK, Rao, Kalonzo, Ruto, Mdvd, who would you say has experience if you could give us examples? Hakuna. Kibaki was an economicst but not great in politics. Moi was a good politician but terrible everything else.

I agree though that UK has failed to deliver but I don't think the alternative would have done better either.


Boss, I guess what @tomboy is saying is that the evidence against Uhuru was overwhelming. He comes from the wealthiest family in Kenya and nobody had ever given him any responsibility in managing the vast empire. But for now we are in a hole, we just need to figure out how to climb out.



I get you and I'm also saying that the people who hav a good chance of being elected president the Kenyan tribal way, have no experience nor qualifications to build a successful nation. The ones who do can never win. Kibaki was just lucky because of baba and the "Kibaki tosha" otherwise UK and Moi would have won 2002 as well.



At the risk of being called all sorts of names by some folks here, I will declare without a shudder of fear, that BABA would have done better than Uhunye. I am not even from lakeside so its not tribal.


... and I don't think so. Baba has too much political baggage, old school thinking, revange to pay back. Uhuru had no baggage but he also has no idea of how to navigate nor will. Kibwana would be good but he can never win.

BBI will solve it
:)
Fyatu
#220 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2019 11:27:45 AM
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Hillary Echesa has been gallivanting in disco matanga's insulting Baba, Oparanya and other leaders. He is also on record harassing directors of parastatals in his ministry and all manner of abuse of office.(He has not disappointed given his pebble brain and lack of proper education).

Problem is, most Jubilee folks thought handshake was jokes. I said it here that on March 9 2018, Raila had a strange ring on his chanda-cha-pete.(dig up photos for youselves from the internet). It seems Omieri the deity of Opoda shrine is very powerful and has got H.E. Uhuru by the nuts...but i digress

Handshake is now waterloo for many. Fortunately or unfortunately, some of these CS's are strategic for 2022 and hence the wider consultations before they get fired.

P.S. A certain CS is very quiet...Mountains of plastic still remain uncollected on the Mtito-voi stretch of Mombasa road. Effluent is flowing full-force into the tributaries of river Athi. Gov. Mutua chest thumped lakini hapa itabaki ame-watch kama sinema(no pun).
The said CS seem to have carried over his epic lethargy from his former office of public prosecutions
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