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KENYA FAILED STATE RANKING
Jaina
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:28:38 PM
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Its unbelievable what people can do for money. Kenya is categorized with the likes of Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Burma etc.

Who stands to Gain in such unfair categorization?.

Position 13 in 2010, down from position 14 last year.

http://www.foreignpolicy...ractive_map_and_rankings
FundamentAli
#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:39:02 AM
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@Jaina

The criteria is set out in the analysis. Which part do you not agree with? Why do we close our eyes to such data while we will see what it meant in the long run?
IDP
#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:49:33 PM
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I agree with the listing 100%. If you test all parameters of development, you will realise how far behind we are. Its only that the average kenyan is ignorant. One hallmark of failed states is civil war and we almost achieved it two years ago.

Corruption,Tribalism,fatheads for leaders and ignorance will make sure that we remain at the lowest ebb in the world for decades to come.Sad No ray of hope.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:36:49 PM
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This is on of those lists made with no basis.

On the bright side, we are just one level below the BRIC's.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Jaina
#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:38:00 PM
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Why then is UN ugrading Nairobi to Categoey B and as expected UN employees in nairobi are raising issues.

Its difficult to relate the two, but Kenya doesn't resemble Afghanistan or Pakistan or burma in any way. Uganda fairs much better even with rabel leader Gen. Joseph Kony on the northern side.

If you visit some of the countries classfied together with kenya, you'll realize how good kenya is.
simonkabz
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:44:36 PM
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@Jaina, me thinks the UN employees r up in arms due to the fat risk allowance cheque about to evaporate.
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FundamentAli
#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:52:01 PM
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Looks like Kenya being in the bad books can also be business for others. UN staff getting a category C allowance due to insecurity while Nairobi is no worse than New York. How many NGOs are there for conflict resolution? Such a report can also be used to show that there are 'needs' and therefore justify donor support.
Jaina
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:07:16 PM
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@ fundamentali, thats exactly what i thought. People gaining when kenya is wrongly categorized.
Jangwa la Jangili
#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:28:51 PM
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Two potential problems with these stats:

1. They will usually talk to mzungu expats and tourists when gathering these statistics. Not an objective source of info.
2. Partially because of 1 and more, they target nations that do not cooperate with the US/UK axis.

In other words, if they could, they would put China as the number 1 failed state - just that it would sound ridiculous to do so.
Katika Jangwa la Jangili ndipo Pwagu hupata Pwaguzi.
Katibampya
#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:53:08 PM
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Yes, i agree that we have our problems as a country but comparing us with Burma,Afghanistan, Pakistan etc is an insult to our intelligence!Am sure this survey was made by some NGOs wanting to make a quick buck from our "failures"
youcan'tstopusnow
#11 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:16:13 AM
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We can't be in the same league as Burma, Pakistan, etc. This ranking is nonsense.
Jangwa, I agree with you. If they could, they would put China at the bottom of the list! The so called "Western World" are nothing but hypocrites
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