If you bother to read the article before blabbing you will note that they are not helping us. They are just fed up with Mwafrika immigration to Europe. And they are fed up with Mwafrika ruining their own country then begging Europe for help.

And I find it funny that you praise Afghans. Thats not a country worth emulating by anyone. They have their own set of cultural problems which have led to acute poverty.

The Germans have been arguing for a Marshall plan for Africa. It is a debate in European high society on whether to turn Europe into a fortress or spread out and share. Remember it's America that created the Asian middle class, South Korea, Japan etc. were industrialized because America wanted them to be to check on the soviet union. China tried Industrialization in late 19th century mid 20th century and failed miserably until Nixon went and helped them out. This thing of TUTAFANYA does not work. Setting up an industrial supply chain is not an easy thing. Lazima usaidiwe kutoa lock of the village mentality.

George Soros is also talking the same thing as the Germans



Full speech here

Yawa, boss those pictures on the pyramids are full of brown and black people hakuna Eurasian stock. Those came in much later. You need to learn the history of the black rulers of Europe the Moors and the cultural and knowledge of Timbuktu when mzungus were in dark ages. Man Musa the richest man who ever lived was from Mali from this period. Mali which is now being assisted to stem the immigrants was a pillar of humanity.

Let's say the truth most Africans are dense and they always refuse to listen to the clever among them. Most average Europeans/Americans are also dense but they elevate the clever ones to positions where they guide society. That's why in Europe education is really emphasized and they like good ideas. Mwafrika likes experimenting with bad ideas and praising mediocrity

99.999999999999% of all human that have ever existed have lived in poverty. Poverty is a starting point... the question should not be WHAT CAUSES POVERTY but rather WHAT CAUSES WEALTH! what is this idea that change the lives for a very small number of humans?

Because you produce at all and if you do... you produce what you don't consume and consume what you don't produce...

You and I actually agree on the bolded part. The trouble with Kenyans is that we worship thieves and we elevate corrupt, incompetent and lazy goons to power . This is because we are easily persuaded and deceived by appeals to tribalism.

In Kenya since 1963, Billions of $$$ have been looted by bigwigs. If instead of looting, that money went into building infrastructure, roads, hospitals, pipelines, airports, bridges, Kenya might be competitive with countries like Korea.

Majuu countries indirectly subsidize their large private sector companies. A company like Boeing survives only because of govt subsidies.

Instead of boosting our private sector, Kenyan leaders decided to loot the treasury dry and stuff the money in their Swiss Bank Accounts

The reason South Korea expanded in leaps and bounds is because of the Chaebol system. The government directly played a role in funding small companies, some of which turned into global brands like Samsung and Hyundai. Here is a key quote.



https://www.cfr.org/back...oreas-chaebol-challenge


In Kenya instead of investing in development and propping up promising businesses, our leaders continue to rapasciously loot the treasury dry.

And maskuma is consoling himself thinking we will eventually dig ourselves out of poverty because everyone will jipanga

You need to remember that a country is a fictitious representation on a map... just go back 100 years and see that the "countries" you are seeing now were not really existing then! When you look at South Sudan you see a bunch of people sharing a border but are fighting and you think - These people belong to 1 country but in reality these people have more differences between them than the spanish and the french or the Portuguese. A kikuyu and a Somali are more different in culture than an English man and a German!
If we were Mzungus - Africa would look like this

But we are not... since for the Mzungu each country is a tribe on it's own! at least majority of the time. Show me a mzungu country that has as many groups as we have? USSR? USSR had about 100 distinct ethnicities... Tanzania has 120! Yugoslavia had like 10 ethnic groups and came crashing down. Nigeria has over 500! so we should not be lectured about social integration - we have integrated better than the mzungu ever did! Each "country" is a tribe (sometimes with minority tribes that hate the major tribes) that's why they don't have civil wars of late...until Crimea and Donetsk. You mention conflicts in Africa like they are reOccuring... How often do the Hutus and Tutsis fight? or the Liberians or people of Salone? Just because they fought once - you think that this is their nature?

Secondly,


Let's talk about this some more! They do? this is news to me! The one brilliant thing that the Mzunguz did was delink politics from private enterprise - most brilliant people are actually in private enterprise...
If you want to make money - you go to the private sector... if you want to serve the public and have very little money (comparatively) - you go into politics. There are no brilliant or clever people in their politics - just people who really care about public service and representation. We muddled the two... for us politics and money are intertwined!

I say.. let's not have academics in politics... academics think they know but they don't! have a farmer as a minister of agriculture and he knows where it hurts...

And you miss my point totally... LEASING THEM LAND TO DO AS THEY PLEASE HERE - WON'T HAPPEN any conversation on it is therefore moot it just won't happen and we should not waste our bundles on it.
Yes... Kikuyus and Somalis have so many cultural differences that if they were in Europe they would hate each other more than Albanians hate Serbs... but this is Africa - we have integration issues but not as bad as you think.

And I agree - our political system has to change and is changing (slowly) but it is changing. I travel the world over and I am able to appreciate this. What you guys are calling for is nothing but a product of the same thing that makes sportspesa and gambling florish... the same stuff that get rich quick schemes prey on... an easy path that requires very little from you.

With regard to ethnic groups. It is true that African countries are diverse. But then again so are Asian countries. Indonesia has 300 ethnic groups. India has a whopping 2000 ethnic groups !
Even in South America, the countries are not ethnically homopgenous. They have Italians, Portuguese, Japanese, Africans, Hispanics, Spaniards and so forth.


However I am glad masukuma brought up the issue of ethnic diversity. The difference between Kenya and Tanzania is a classic example of how poorly Kenyan leaders handled ethnic diversity. Whereas Nyerere sought to stamp out tribalism, Kenyatta encouraged it. Nyerere discouraged it so much that during his reign, in Dar es Salaam, you would never hear people speaking in tribal tongues. That’s why Tanzanians are in peaceful co-existence whereas Kenyans are at each others neck even today. Kenyatta's legacy is rotten to the core. Unfortunately we still have not learned. .

masukuma and others are still making bogus excuses about why Kenyans can't get along even though there is a perfect example to follow in our southern neighbors.

Of course Nyerere was misguided in his zeal for socialism. Had he been a capitalist, Tanzania would have thrived.

But we can learn from Nyerere's example instead of listening to maskuma's bogus excuses about why Kenya is super-tribalistic.