radiomast wrote:wukan wrote:
@radiomast what @masukuma is saying true it's the culture that changed. Mzungus after the fall of rome were unable to maintain the high culture of the roman and greek civilzation. It's actually the arabs who preserved the writings of earlier civilizations. Mzugnus had to undergo an age of enlightenment to catch up. However, the war like nature of mzungus is in their DNA those Neanderthal genes. The history of conflict shows they are the most violent race. Heck even the EU was formed to stop them from going violent again.
Mwafrka too had a high culture for over 3000 years in Egypt until they slaughtered all the high society people and started wandering in the forests.
All in all if you travel in Africa in areas which were properly colonized (kenya, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Botswana, Namibia, Morocco) there is a marked difference in culture when compared to the areas with indirect rule.
The other thing @masukuma is ignoring is the rapid population growth especially in the Sahel countries. This is where the German minister had in mind to establish chartered cities. Spreading high culture will be pretty difficult. Ever tried to argue with people from Juba or Congo or the loud Guineans, you will appreciate Kenyans pleasant high culture courtesy of being colonized by the upper class British society
I don't deny that Europeans are also war-like. Every country has selfish individuals. The difference is that Muzungu seems to have a system in place where they learn from their mistakes. Mwafrika never learns. Mwafrika is too greedy and self centered to consider whether the consequences of his actions will have a negative impact on his own society.
Masukuma is a classic example. Thats why he keeps propagating that kujipanga nonsense.
A muzungu will likely wage war against another
country. A muzungu will happily steal from another country. he will happily exploit other people.
Mwafrika on the other hand will wage war on his own people and steal from his own people and exploit his own people.
How often do you hear of civil war in the UK or France or Germany? It is very rare even throughout history.
Now look at how often Africans are always at their own brothers throats be it Kenya or Rwanda or Sierra Leone or Zaire or S.Sudan or Naija or Algeria or ............. And its often closely related people fighting like Hutu Vs Tutsi who are basically the same people or Dinka vs Nuer who are closely related.
Muzungu seems to understand that a society benefits when everyone makes progress.
Mwafrika on the other hand wants to benefit at his neioghbours expense. Thats what masukuma calls kujipanga. Its the height of nonsense.
You need to remember that a country is a fictitious representation on a map... just go back 100 years and see that the "countries" you are seeing now were not really existing then! When you look at South Sudan you see a bunch of people sharing a border but are fighting and you think - These people belong to 1 country but in reality these people have more differences between them than the spanish and the french or the Portuguese. A kikuyu and a Somali are more different in culture than an English man and a German!
If we were Mzungus - Africa would look like this

But we are not... since for the Mzungu each country is a tribe on it's own! at least majority of the time. Show me a mzungu country that has as many groups as we have? USSR? USSR had about 100 distinct ethnicities... Tanzania has 120! Yugoslavia had like 10 ethnic groups and came crashing down. Nigeria has over 500! so we should not be lectured about social integration - we have integrated better than the mzungu ever did! Each "country" is a tribe (sometimes with minority tribes that hate the major tribes) that's why they don't have civil wars of late...until Crimea and Donetsk. You mention conflicts in Africa like they are reOccuring... How often do the Hutus and Tutsis fight? or the Liberians or people of Salone? Just because they fought once - you think that this is their nature?
Secondly,
Quote:Let's say the truth most Africans are dense and they always refuse to listen to the clever among them. Most average Europeans/Americans are also dense but they elevate the clever ones to positions where they guide society. That's why in Europe education is really emphasized and they like good ideas. Mwafrika likes experimenting with bad ideas and praising mediocrity
Let's talk about this some more! They do? this is news to me! The one brilliant thing that the Mzunguz did was delink politics from private enterprise - most brilliant people are actually in private enterprise...
If you want to make money - you go to the private sector... if you want to serve the public and have very little money (comparatively) - you go into politics. There are no brilliant or clever people in their politics - just people who really care about public service and representation. We muddled the two... for us politics and money are intertwined!
I say.. let's not have academics in politics... academics think they know but they don't! have a farmer as a minister of agriculture and he knows where it hurts...
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!