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Seefar Apartments...Langata!
hardwood
#61 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 4:40:28 PM
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kayhara wrote:

There is something called Plot ratio and plot coverage, and any building above 4 floors should have a lift,this seems to break all the above.



Have these buildings at Pipeline estate complied with those requirements? Why the selective application of laws?



obiero
#62 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 9:20:44 PM
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hardwood wrote:
kayhara wrote:

There is something called Plot ratio and plot coverage, and any building above 4 floors should have a lift,this seems to break all the above.



Have these buildings at Pipeline estate complied with those requirements? Why the selective application of laws?




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kayhara
#63 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2018 11:34:00 AM
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hardwood wrote:
kayhara wrote:

There is something called Plot ratio and plot coverage, and any building above 4 floors should have a lift,this seems to break all the above.



Have these buildings at Pipeline estate complied with those requirements? Why the selective application of laws?




This being kenya laws are bent everytime, in pipeline if the law was to be enforced all buildings would go, eg
1-The plot ratio in pipeline is 80% ground coverage is also 80%, this means you don't build to the boundary, you leave atleast 4 feet from
the boundary, if your neighbour does this too then you have 8 feet separating the flats for natural lighting and ventilation but wapi, guys
build to the boundary.
2-The maximum liftless height is 4 floors, in mlango kubwa there is a flat with 8 floor.
3-Floor to ceiling height of at least 2.7, in Nairobi you can change your bulb while seated in some houses (almost)
4-The stairs steps height and width, In these flats we have some with very high steps, very shallow landings and very narrow flights,
Moving is mtihani with guys having to lower sofas by ropes.
5-Parking all houses should have atleast 0.5 parkings per unit.

I have the british building standards which we apparently use, and it describes even the kiosk, the single rooms the number of toilets per inhabitant but
in kenya this is of giants
To Each His Own
hardwood
#64 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:26:49 PM
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So what is wrong with this building except maybe the paper work which could have been sorted out by regularizing the mjengo? Why demolish it? The building looks very sound structurally. Did he call engineers to see if building was OK? Shida of having an idiot for a governor.






hardwood
#65 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2018 2:04:09 PM
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Other countries also build flats on 1/8 plots but you have to leave 1.5m all around the building for ventilation and lighting which results in better buildings. The 1.5m areas are also used for water and sewer pipes. And the ground floor of the building is strictly for parking not wines and spirit shops. Kabogo had suggested such a thing but developers protested. Our architects are also to blame for not being creative to design habitable buildings.



JoeNgugi
#66 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2019 8:07:15 AM
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Were the Seefar Apartments owners let be?
wukan
#67 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2019 11:24:53 AM
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JoeNgugi wrote:
Were the Seefar Apartments owners let be?


Mido class had already bought the units from the owners, Uhuru suspended the demolitions it was politically insensitive to demolish mido-class apartments
2012
#68 Posted : Monday, March 04, 2019 12:16:51 PM
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JoeNgugi wrote:
Were the Seefar Apartments owners let be?


It's political. In any country, you do not mess with the middle-class. They are the quiet lot who foot a huge part of the tax bill. The best you can do as one writer wrote in the 60s (can't remember his name) is; "ensure they live well in their perceived comfort".

BBI will solve it
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