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cnn
#1 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:08:55 PM
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Investment and other income (sale of GenAfrica ) driving PBT up 37% at half year .EPS at 3.4 vs 2.07 ...NAV flat at 73....closing cash and cash equivalents 7.4b vs 4.9b .
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Ericsson
#2 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:58:53 PM
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Profit before tax jumped from ksh.1.765bn to 2.392bn in 2017
Profit after tax stood at ksh.2.079bn compared to 1.631bn
Share of associates (losses)/profits stood at a loss of ksh.104.891mn compared to a profit of ksh.195mn in a similar period last year
Finance costs more than doubled to ksh.1.230bn in 2018 compared to ksh.557mn last year
Realised gains on disposals of investments stood at ksh.19.743mn compared to 11.461mn last year
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Horton
#3 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:04:18 PM
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Ericsson wrote:


Profit before tax jumped from ksh.1.765bn to 2.392bn in 2017
Profit after tax stood at ksh.2.079bn compared to 1.631bn
Share of associates (losses)/profits stood at a loss of ksh.104.891mn compared to a profit of ksh.195mn in a similar period last year
Finance costs more than doubled to ksh.1.230bn in 2018 compared to ksh.557mn last year
Realised gains on disposals of investments stood at ksh.19.743mn compared to 11.461mn last year



So they based EPS on PAT vs on total comprehensive income?
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VituVingiSana
#4 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:04:46 PM
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Horton wrote:
Ericsson wrote:


Profit before tax jumped from ksh.1.765bn to 2.392bn in 2017
Profit after tax stood at ksh.2.079bn compared to 1.631bn
Share of associates (losses)/profits stood at a loss of ksh.104.891mn compared to a profit of ksh.195mn in a similar period last year
Finance costs more than doubled to ksh.1.230bn in 2018 compared to ksh.557mn last year
Realised gains on disposals of investments stood at ksh.19.743mn compared to 11.461mn last year


So they based EPS on PAT vs on total comprehensive income?
Which firms use the CI to calculate the EPS?
I wonder what the CI loss is about but that might be revealed on Monday.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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the deal
#5 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2018 12:56:19 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
Ericsson wrote:


Profit before tax jumped from ksh.1.765bn to 2.392bn in 2017
Profit after tax stood at ksh.2.079bn compared to 1.631bn
Share of associates (losses)/profits stood at a loss of ksh.104.891mn compared to a profit of ksh.195mn in a similar period last year
Finance costs more than doubled to ksh.1.230bn in 2018 compared to ksh.557mn last year
Realised gains on disposals of investments stood at ksh.19.743mn compared to 11.461mn last year


So they based EPS on PAT vs on total comprehensive income?
Which firms use the CI to calculate the EPS?
I wonder what the CI loss is about but that might be revealed on Monday.


Interesting results... Just shows how tough the Kenyan economy is...curious to see management commentry
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Horton
#6 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2018 1:57:54 PM
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the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
Ericsson wrote:


Profit before tax jumped from ksh.1.765bn to 2.392bn in 2017
Profit after tax stood at ksh.2.079bn compared to 1.631bn
Share of associates (losses)/profits stood at a loss of ksh.104.891mn compared to a profit of ksh.195mn in a similar period last year
Finance costs more than doubled to ksh.1.230bn in 2018 compared to ksh.557mn last year
Realised gains on disposals of investments stood at ksh.19.743mn compared to 11.461mn last year


So they based EPS on PAT vs on total comprehensive income?
Which firms use the CI to calculate the EPS?
I wonder what the CI loss is about but that might be revealed on Monday.


Interesting results... Just shows how tough the Kenyan economy is...curious to see management commentry



I’m not sure Centum results would be a true reflection of the economy. However things are tough
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obiero
#7 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2018 2:22:39 PM
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cnn wrote:
Investment and other income (sale of GenAfrica ) driving PBT up 37% at half year .EPS at 3.4 vs 2.07 ...NAV flat at 73....closing cash and cash equivalents 7.4b vs 4.9b .

If the investment income wasn't factored by the said sale, then it would have resulted in a loss at PAT level

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VituVingiSana
#8 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2018 2:26:45 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
Horton wrote:
the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
Ericsson wrote:


Profit before tax jumped from ksh.1.765bn to 2.392bn in 2017
Profit after tax stood at ksh.2.079bn compared to 1.631bn
Share of associates (losses)/profits stood at a loss of ksh.104.891mn compared to a profit of ksh.195mn in a similar period last year
Finance costs more than doubled to ksh.1.230bn in 2018 compared to ksh.557mn last year
Realised gains on disposals of investments stood at ksh.19.743mn compared to 11.461mn last year


So they based EPS on PAT vs on total comprehensive income?
Which firms use the CI to calculate the EPS?
I wonder what the CI loss is about but that might be revealed on Monday.


Interesting results... Just shows how tough the Kenyan economy is...curious to see management commentry

I’m not sure Centum results would be a true reflection of the economy. However things are tough

@Horton - Which listed firms use the CI to calculate the EPS?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Ericsson
#9 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2018 2:28:45 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Horton wrote:
the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
Ericsson wrote:


Profit before tax jumped from ksh.1.765bn to 2.392bn in 2017
Profit after tax stood at ksh.2.079bn compared to 1.631bn
Share of associates (losses)/profits stood at a loss of ksh.104.891mn compared to a profit of ksh.195mn in a similar period last year
Finance costs more than doubled to ksh.1.230bn in 2018 compared to ksh.557mn last year
Realised gains on disposals of investments stood at ksh.19.743mn compared to 11.461mn last year


So they based EPS on PAT vs on total comprehensive income?
Which firms use the CI to calculate the EPS?
I wonder what the CI loss is about but that might be revealed on Monday.


Interesting results... Just shows how tough the Kenyan economy is...curious to see management commentry



I’m not sure Centum results would be a true reflection of the economy. However things are tough


It's a reflection of some of the investment decisions they made
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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VituVingiSana
#10 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2018 2:29:11 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
Ericsson wrote:


Profit before tax jumped from ksh.1.765bn to 2.392bn in 2017
Profit after tax stood at ksh.2.079bn compared to 1.631bn
Share of associates (losses)/profits stood at a loss of ksh.104.891mn compared to a profit of ksh.195mn in a similar period last year
Finance costs more than doubled to ksh.1.230bn in 2018 compared to ksh.557mn last year
Realised gains on disposals of investments stood at ksh.19.743mn compared to 11.461mn last year


So they based EPS on PAT vs on total comprehensive income?
Which firms use the CI to calculate the EPS?
I wonder what the CI loss is about but that might be revealed on Monday.


Interesting results... Just shows how tough the Kenyan economy is...curious to see management commentry

@thedeal - Please check the Deacons thread. There's some unfinished business.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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