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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 16 Location: Nairobi
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Hi guys Anyone who has a SOLID connection or link to a serious high net worth individual looking for scalable and good returns opportunities?? Developed a proprietary algorithm for trading the international futures markets (whatever you think it will trade). System delivers solid performance (23% compounded - b4 fees (2005-2017)). Asset managers have been compounding at 10% during the same duration. 2018 (Q3) was at 6.07%, NASI Q3 (-12.55%), NSE 20 Q3 (22.38%) We are currently doing a pilot in a real environment to prove the concept. The system recommended we short eurodollar (US interest rates are increasing). 2 months down the line the position has made a "TIDY" profit (position is still open since there is high probability fed might increase rates in dec). Moreover, system has not recommended we close the position yet hence we are just compounding profit. Another position was short crude oil (@ $61) and crude oil has been tumbling...currently at $54. And other positions We want to scale since our models are telling us a recession is on the way in the next 1 or 2 years (thats when we make superior returns - 50%+ P.A.). Already the inflated bubble of US global indices is in correction mode and rates are rising. Any leads on getting an investor who can access at least $3 million??? We have a interesting proposition which we would like to share. P.S. No snake oil salesmanship here (Got the system and live trades to boot  To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know, what we do not know; that is true knowledge. - CONFUCIUS
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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At least $3 million to test a system, ok. GL. Somebody with that kind of money knows their way around investment world and would 'probably' not need you, your system and your services. This is a good system to target Shiko!!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 16 Location: Nairobi
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Hi... Well first of all we are not looking for money to test a system... That we are already doing... As i highlighted before, we are already doing a pilot in the "live" environment... What we are looking for is an investor who has money and wants to make solid returns on that money... Like how investors invest in shares or bonds to earn returns... So he is not investing in us bt rather we are using our proprietary algo to invest for him to make returns... All monies are his/hers.. π Thanks for recommending someone to talk to...so how do u get in touch with shiko...π To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know, what we do not know; that is true knowledge. - CONFUCIUS
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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Dennis2018 wrote:Hi...
Well first of all we are not looking for money to test a system... That we are already doing... As i highlighted before, we are already doing a pilot in the "live" environment...
What we are looking for is an investor who has money and wants to make solid returns on that money... Like how investors invest in shares or bonds to earn returns... So he is not investing in us bt rather we are using our proprietary algo to invest for him to make returns... All monies are his/hers.. π
Thanks for recommending someone to talk to...so how do u get in touch with shiko...π Are you a Nigerian scammer? Your posts don't sound genuine! John 5:17 But Jesus replied, βMy Father is always working, and so am I.β
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 16 Location: Nairobi
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That would be a big NO to both... I did say we have a system and have live trades to prove this... Well I wonder how one can fake that since at the end of the day any investor has to do their due diligence to ascertain before anything... Right??? This involves investors lawyers or investment analyst because also we ain't talking small money here... To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know, what we do not know; that is true knowledge. - CONFUCIUS
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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You are registered as what type of organization & since you are taking cash / funds, you are regulated by which authority. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 16 Location: Nairobi
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Well we ain't advertising and that's why w only interested in one investor as a private engagement... our strategy is quite simple... At no time does the investor give us money..NO..investor opens an account in their name with all rights accruing to investor... (opening, monitoring, closing etc)... Our work is to trade that account with our code to make a return on that investment... Bt at the end of the day investor has total control of that account... Infact as I earlier pointed out our models point to a big payday in 2019 or 2020...the key thing is just be invested when that happens... To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know, what we do not know; that is true knowledge. - CONFUCIUS
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 16 Location: Nairobi
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Moreover, their positions are always hedged. The investor only opens an account with only 30% of the capital. In this case $900,000. Note that the offshore returns generated on that 30% is based on the whole capital ($ 3 million) due to use of leverage. 70% he uses it to hedge by buying kenyan government tbills. So possibility of them making a loss even on a down year is very minimal since a loss from the offshore investments is hedged by government paper. To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know, what we do not know; that is true knowledge. - CONFUCIUS
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/22/2009 Posts: 206
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Dennis2018 wrote:Hi guys Anyone who has a SOLID connection or link to a serious high net worth individual looking for scalable and good returns opportunities?? Developed a proprietary algorithm for trading the international futures markets (whatever you think it will trade). System delivers solid performance (23% compounded - b4 fees (2005-2017)). Asset managers have been compounding at 10% during the same duration. 2018 (Q3) was at 6.07%, NASI Q3 (-12.55%), NSE 20 Q3 (22.38%) We are currently doing a pilot in a real environment to prove the concept. The system recommended we short eurodollar (US interest rates are increasing). 2 months down the line the position has made a "TIDY" profit (position is still open since there is high probability fed might increase rates in dec). Moreover, system has not recommended we close the position yet hence we are just compounding profit. Another position was short crude oil (@ $61) and crude oil has been tumbling...currently at $54. And other positions We want to scale since our models are telling us a recession is on the way in the next 1 or 2 years (thats when we make superior returns - 50%+ P.A.). Already the inflated bubble of US global indices is in correction mode and rates are rising. Any leads on getting an investor who can access at least $3 million??? We have a interesting proposition which we would like to share. P.S. No snake oil salesmanship here (Got the system and live trades to boot Try Kevin O'Leary from Shark Tank. He owns a huge hedge fund.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Now we are in business, how do i get hold of you/contacts? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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This boy lost a lot of money.James Cordier of Optionsellers.com humbled by extreme market fluctuations in natural gas & crude oil. Apologises to his clients, who were totally wiped out in the process. It appears he lost big w/ short calls in crude, and saw an opportunity in natural gas. Things got much worse as natural gas rallied beyond what most expected, and buyers of the calls he sold cashed in, wiping his Hedge Fund out. Deep sympathy for his clients. More than likely Mr. Cordier was attempting to recover losses for his fund so his clients would finish 2018 on a high note. No speculation at all on intent other than giving the benefit of the doubt. It is a warning to all traders and investors to be cautious and manage risk.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 16 Location: Nairobi
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Hey @angelica_ann drop me an email: dwambaa@gmail.com...Then we can continue this further.. @muganda...literally the guy blew up...He was SHORT natural gas options and the thing spiked up...big time..Natural gas rallied 20% on a single day (14th). Futures market closed at $4.8... Well, how do i know?? Our system had initiated a LONG position on Natural Gas futures like two months prior at $3.02...You can imagine how much that position contributed to the bottom line..hehe To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know, what we do not know; that is true knowledge. - CONFUCIUS
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 16 Location: Nairobi
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And people tend to forget a key law in trading..MURPHYS LAW... "What can go wrong will go wrong"... As such always have STOPLOSS set....The problem with this "guys" they think they know the market and where its heading hence ignore cutting short their losses... Forgetting that they are participating in a "random event" and anything can happen since returns happen in the FUTURE... To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know, what we do not know; that is true knowledge. - CONFUCIUS
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 16 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Now we are in business, how do i get hold of you/contacts? Drop me an email: dwambaa@gmail.com...Then we can continue this further.. To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know, what we do not know; that is true knowledge. - CONFUCIUS
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Dennis2018 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Now we are in business, how do i get hold of you/contacts? Drop me an email: dwambaa@gmail.com...Then we can continue this further.. Given it out contacts on the way. This is better than Cytonn. BBK bye bye, time to make real money. Centum In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 16 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Dennis2018 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Now we are in business, how do i get hold of you/contacts? Drop me an email: dwambaa@gmail.com...Then we can continue this further.. Given it out contacts on the way. This is better than Cytonn. BBK bye bye, time to make real money. Centum Thanks...will b waiting on the contact  To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know, what we do not know; that is true knowledge. - CONFUCIUS
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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Dennis2018 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Dennis2018 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Now we are in business, how do i get hold of you/contacts? Drop me an email: dwambaa@gmail.com...Then we can continue this further.. Given it out contacts on the way. This is better than Cytonn. BBK bye bye, time to make real money. Centum Thanks...will b waiting on the contact  Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your lifeβs energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 681 Location: Kenya
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/31/2018 Posts: 9 Location: kenya
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