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obiero
#231 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:12:12 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
I have resolved, as we go into 2019, not to tear down others' choices.
Except for @obiero & KQ Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly coz that's just amusing.
I am OK discussing the pros and cons of any investment. I am seriously considering more Saf and Centum at current prices. Neither is risk-free but they represent value for me. I am open to other views/info that I may not have considered.

Some folks were deriding my choice of KK for various reasons.
Well, unless Rubis backs out... I am IN the money. I have attended every AGM for the past few years. I used to wait until the "lunch crowd" disappeared and then the serious group would have a discussion with the Management. It wasn't always pretty. At a price of 20/-, I have made a minimum of 15% (annualized) and it fits within my investment goals.

BTW, I don't really care if Rubis backs out either given I expect a future 15% Earnings Yield (at the 15/- level pre-Rubis). I do not mind owning a business that (on average) yielded me 15% compounded annually.

So whereas I do not believe in Cytonn at 60, it was a great investment for those who got in at 10/-. Which other investment could has provided a 500% return in 3 years?
[Not KK, not Unga, perhaps not even Saf]

@Horton doesn't have to prove anything to anyone just as I will not post my statements or the value of my holdings.

What is NOT "right" is pumping and dumping as some have done.

As long as @Horton doesn't ask you to buy Cytonn coz he is selling he is OK in my books.

Jangili wewe.. ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

KQ ABP 4.26
winmak
#232 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:58:57 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 12/1/2007
Posts: 539
Location: Nakuru
VituVingiSana wrote:
I have resolved, as we go into 2019, not to tear down others' choices.
Except for @obiero & KQ Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly coz that's just amusing.
I am OK discussing the pros and cons of any investment. I am seriously considering more Saf and Centum at current prices. Neither is risk-free but they represent value for me. I am open to other views/info that I may not have considered.

Some folks were deriding my choice of KK for various reasons.
Well, unless Rubis backs out... I am IN the money. I have attended every AGM for the past few years. I used to wait until the "lunch crowd" disappeared and then the serious group would have a discussion with the Management. It wasn't always pretty. At a price of 20/-, I have made a minimum of 15% (annualized) and it fits within my investment goals.

BTW, I don't really care if Rubis backs out either given I expect a future 15% Earnings Yield (at the 15/- level pre-Rubis). I do not mind owning a business that (on average) yielded me 15% compounded annually.

So whereas I do not believe in Cytonn at 60, it was a great investment for those who got in at 10/-. Which other investment could has provided a 500% return in 3 years?
[Not KK, not Unga, perhaps not even Saf]

@Horton doesn't have to prove anything to anyone just as I will not post my statements or the value of my holdings.

What is NOT "right" is pumping and dumping as some have done.

As long as @Horton doesn't ask you to buy Cytonn coz he is selling he is OK in my books.


Spoken like 8 chiefs
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
Horton
#233 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2018 5:38:52 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/30/2007
Posts: 1,558
Location: Nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
I have resolved, as we go into 2019, not to tear down others' choices.
Except for @obiero & KQ Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly coz that's just amusing.
I am OK discussing the pros and cons of any investment. I am seriously considering more Saf and Centum at current prices. Neither is risk-free but they represent value for me. I am open to other views/info that I may not have considered.

Some folks were deriding my choice of KK for various reasons.
Well, unless Rubis backs out... I am IN the money. I have attended every AGM for the past few years. I used to wait until the "lunch crowd" disappeared and then the serious group would have a discussion with the Management. It wasn't always pretty. At a price of 20/-, I have made a minimum of 15% (annualized) and it fits within my investment goals.

BTW, I don't really care if Rubis backs out either given I expect a future 15% Earnings Yield (at the 15/- level pre-Rubis). I do not mind owning a business that (on average) yielded me 15% compounded annually.

So whereas I do not believe in Cytonn at 60, it was a great investment for those who got in at 10/-. Which other investment could has provided a 500% return in 3 years?
[Not KK, not Unga, perhaps not even Saf]

@Horton doesn't have to prove anything to anyone just as I will not post my statements or the value of my holdings.

What is NOT "right" is pumping and dumping as some have done.

As long as @Horton doesn't ask you to buy Cytonn coz he is selling he is OK in my books.


๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š spoken like 8 chiefs as someone said. Asante and yes I am no broker ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†. Not hawking anything.
sparkly
#234 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 10:36:41 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Horton wrote:
Swenani wrote:
jmbada wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
jmbada wrote:
maka wrote:
This went downhill fast...

Peepo with 500%-fold returns should not be sooooo defensive. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.


WTH? By the same breath why would you guys be so offensive if you have no interests here? Me thinks all you noise makers here have an agenda or have been sponsored Led by ur supervisor kularaha.

Not here for investment advice Asanteni Lakini

Itโ€™s only natural to defend your holdings ask Obiero, VVS etc

My core investments are profitable Applause Applause Applause And pay dividends from real cash-flow.
Even Centum (few shares) pays a dividend.

At your age it's good to depend on dividend stocks.. No need to risk it all for capital gains
Agreed. Now back to Cytonn. Celebrate that @Horton made 6x (by selling at 60) in Cytonn.


He celebrates by hurling insults... wait for it.

Cytonn has never had OTC trading. And the TOTALLY UNREGULATED CMS (Cash Management Solution) product did not even dare to promise those types of returns. So those returns claims are false. Case in point, he or she has not dared to explicitly state that they made those actual returns.


Ignorance and ability to post anonymously on the web is very dangerous



@VVS Asante sana.
@sparkly please refer to your memory/history to see who instigated those. I had always regarded you In the utmost respect as a friend until you started these issues.

@jmbada ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜† Ati Cytonn has never traded OTC
https://www.cytonn.com/d...tice_On_Private_OTC.pdf

CMS they are paying 18% there are a few Wazuans here who actually get those rates. Please put some effort and just use the search button. Many have posted here on Wazua. There is Swenani, BGL to name a few.You can also call them to confirm itโ€™s probably easier than arguing with strangers on the net ๐Ÿ˜†

I donโ€™t get you madam, so you want me to put statements here? ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜† Really? no one in their right mind is going to share such personal information with you.



1. Cytonn is a 4 year old firm. No track record to speak of.
2. The Managers have fraud case against them filed by their former employer. Integrity is questionable.
3. Financials have been referred to as opaque by some analysts, not by Wazuans.
4. Economic fundamentals in Kenya i.e access to credit, disposable incomes, capital flows, inflation etc are far from optimal.
5. Wazuans who point out the above as prima facie risks in investing in Cytonn are called stupid and class 5 level.
6. Wazua is a forum for independent thought. Whether we agree or not, there is nothing personal.

Life is short. Live passionately.
maka
#235 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 4:32:33 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
I don't know why when I saw this... Cytonn came into mind...:smile Enjoy...

https://youtu.be/RKl_Y3EA7Sc
possunt quia posse videntur
Horton
#236 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2018 5:49:53 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/30/2007
Posts: 1,558
Location: Nairobi
Cytonnโ€™s 3D showhouses for completed and ongoing products. Check out the Ridge! ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ

Have you seen the 3D rendered showhouses? If not check them out below:

*Amara Ridge:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=ywmvDTJNYvm

*Alma 1 BD:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=6zcFLgNx6qa

*Alma 2 BD:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=csLGABosasz

*The Ridge 3 BD +DSQ:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=Xu56cvF9qZX

*The Ridge 3BD + Studio:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=wtSQeSopJ3z
alma1
#237 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2018 6:52:39 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/19/2015
Posts: 2,871
Location: hapo
[quote=Horton]Cytonnโ€™s 3D showhouses for completed and ongoing products. Check out the Ridge! ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ

Have you seen the 3D rendered showhouses? If not check them out below:

*Amara Ridge:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=ywmvDTJNYvm

*Alma 1 BD:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=6zcFLgNx6qa

*Alma 2 BD:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=csLGABosasz

*The Ridge 3 BD +DSQ:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=Xu56cvF9qZX

*The Ridge 3BD + Studio:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=wtSQeSopJ3z[/quote]

I personally loooove the Alma smile
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Angelica _ann
#238 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2018 6:56:35 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
alma1 wrote:
[quote=Horton]Cytonnโ€™s 3D showhouses for completed and ongoing products. Check out the Ridge! ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ

Have you seen the 3D rendered showhouses? If not check them out below:

*Amara Ridge:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=ywmvDTJNYvm

*Alma 1 BD:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=6zcFLgNx6qa

*Alma 2 BD:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=csLGABosasz

*The Ridge 3 BD +DSQ:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=Xu56cvF9qZX

*The Ridge 3BD + Studio:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=wtSQeSopJ3z[/quote]

I personally loooove the Alma smile


I hope they paid you for use of the name smile smile smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
alma1
#239 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2018 7:06:54 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/19/2015
Posts: 2,871
Location: hapo
Angelica _ann wrote:
alma1 wrote:
[quote=Horton]Cytonnโ€™s 3D showhouses for completed and ongoing products. Check out the Ridge! ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ

Have you seen the 3D rendered showhouses? If not check them out below:

*Amara Ridge:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=ywmvDTJNYvm

*Alma 1 BD:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=6zcFLgNx6qa

*Alma 2 BD:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=csLGABosasz

*The Ridge 3 BD +DSQ:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=Xu56cvF9qZX

*The Ridge 3BD + Studio:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=wtSQeSopJ3z[/quote]

I personally loooove the Alma smile


I hope they paid you for use of the name smile smile smile


Obiero and Kula Raha say that I may have to wait until Horton and Swenani are paid...

but I'm patient.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Horton
#240 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2018 7:31:09 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/30/2007
Posts: 1,558
Location: Nairobi
alma1 wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
alma1 wrote:
[quote=Horton]Cytonnโ€™s 3D showhouses for completed and ongoing products. Check out the Ridge! ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ

Have you seen the 3D rendered showhouses? If not check them out below:

*Amara Ridge:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=ywmvDTJNYvm

*Alma 1 BD:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=6zcFLgNx6qa

*Alma 2 BD:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=csLGABosasz

*The Ridge 3 BD +DSQ:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=Xu56cvF9qZX

*The Ridge 3BD + Studio:* https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=wtSQeSopJ3z[/quote]

I personally loooove the Alma smile


I hope they paid you for use of the name smile smile smile


Obiero and Kula Raha say that I may have to wait until Horton and Swenani are paid...

but I'm patient.



@alma ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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