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Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first  Joburg Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye..
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2009 Posts: 256
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obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye.. At 9% dividend yield, it is attractive to those more interested in this return, rather than capital gains.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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Monk wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye.. At 9% dividend yield, it is attractive to those more interested in this return, rather than capital gains. So 500 BBK shares worth circa KES 5,400 will give you an annual dividend of KES 400.. Bure returns! I would rather sell smokies
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,096 Location: Nairobi
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Monk wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye.. At 9% dividend yield, it is attractive to those more interested in this return, rather than capital gains. Like those "Open Offers"  9% DY is excellent. I will look into it. Thanks! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2014 Posts: 228 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Monk wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye.. At 9% dividend yield, it is attractive to those more interested in this return, rather than capital gains. So 500 BBK shares worth circa KES 5,400 will give you an annual dividend of KES 400.. Bure returns! I would rather sell smokies @Obiero, if you are willing to invest only KES 5,400, how many investments will not be 'Bure"? smokies (not that I know what they are) might give you more, but if they are similar to selling cabbages, you will have to work harder than buying BBK shares
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,589
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At least BBK is changing strategy using big data analytics. There are identifying the next outliers, creating profiles on who to lend in the next boom cycle. I like the focus of Moses Muthui their head of strategy well grounded and understanding kenyans' peculiar habits. Once they drop that Barclay tag they will be good to go.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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iris wrote:obiero wrote:Monk wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye.. At 9% dividend yield, it is attractive to those more interested in this return, rather than capital gains. So 500 BBK shares worth circa KES 5,400 will give you an annual dividend of KES 400.. Bure returns! I would rather sell smokies @Obiero, if you are willing to invest only KES 5,400, how many investments will not be 'Bure"? smokies (not that I know what they are) might give you more, but if they are similar to selling cabbages, you will have to work harder than buying BBK shares Some of us bought the shares @80 bob when they were brother & sister with Stanchart, BAT and EABL - before Kibaki showed up and shored things in the economy. So after 2 splits, you can imagine the return - the reason for the sentimental holding my fren. For smokes, no comment - you could end up eating left over stoke. Plus County askaris etc In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change Parent company ABSA yet to release Q3 results. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2009 Posts: 256
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obiero wrote:Monk wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye.. At 9% dividend yield, it is attractive to those more interested in this return, rather than capital gains. So 500 BBK shares worth circa KES 5,400 will give you an annual dividend of KES 400.. Bure returns! I would rather sell smokies Dividend hunting is not for everyone. If you prefer "growth stocks", that's your choice. Both are valid investment strategies. As for Ksh 5,400, I have no idea where you got that figure.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Monk wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye.. At 9% dividend yield, it is attractive to those more interested in this return, rather than capital gains. So 500 BBK shares worth circa KES 5,400 will give you an annual dividend of KES 400.. Bure returns! I would rather sell smokies Hate all you will, but 9% dividend yield is gains at the end of the day. And in a bear market where people are deep in the red, others with paper losses exceeding -70%, that "meagre 9%" dividend is paying bills and buying nice suits.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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rwitre wrote:obiero wrote:Monk wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye.. At 9% dividend yield, it is attractive to those more interested in this return, rather than capital gains. So 500 BBK shares worth circa KES 5,400 will give you an annual dividend of KES 400.. Bure returns! I would rather sell smokies Hate all you will, but 9% dividend yield is gains at the end of the day. And in a bear market where people are deep in the red, others with paper losses exceeding -70%, that "meagre 9%" dividend is paying bills and buying nice suits. True however, if you just want the 9% isn’t Cytonn better? arent infrastructure bonds better? Also KCB yields 8% but also has the capital appreciation as it is cheap? Surely you can do better than 9% before tax which is not a guaranteed rate of return
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Horton wrote:rwitre wrote:obiero wrote:Monk wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye.. At 9% dividend yield, it is attractive to those more interested in this return, rather than capital gains. So 500 BBK shares worth circa KES 5,400 will give you an annual dividend of KES 400.. Bure returns! I would rather sell smokies Hate all you will, but 9% dividend yield is gains at the end of the day. And in a bear market where people are deep in the red, others with paper losses exceeding -70%, that "meagre 9%" dividend is paying bills and buying nice suits. True however, if you just want the 9% isn’t Cytonn better? arent infrastructure bonds better? Also KCB yields 8% but also has the capital appreciation as it is cheap? Surely you can do better than 9% before tax which is not a guaranteed rate of return People have different level of risk appetite - some of us are close to retirement so risk tolerance is low. Cytonn type of investment was something i did around '98 to 2010 (more so with buying land, holding and selling). Then i moved into consolidation of investment which are risk averse with certainty and easy to manage. Infrastructure bonds, yes but then again their long term nature is not ideal for me now. some of the incitements are also 'family' driven/controlled - mpaka you agree the direction you are taking with mzee. Ni hayo tu!!! By the way it is not like we are only invested in BBK. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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Angelica _ann wrote:Horton wrote:rwitre wrote:obiero wrote:Monk wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye.. At 9% dividend yield, it is attractive to those more interested in this return, rather than capital gains. So 500 BBK shares worth circa KES 5,400 will give you an annual dividend of KES 400.. Bure returns! I would rather sell smokies Hate all you will, but 9% dividend yield is gains at the end of the day. And in a bear market where people are deep in the red, others with paper losses exceeding -70%, that "meagre 9%" dividend is paying bills and buying nice suits. True however, if you just want the 9% isn’t Cytonn better? arent infrastructure bonds better? Also KCB yields 8% but also has the capital appreciation as it is cheap? Surely you can do better than 9% before tax which is not a guaranteed rate of return People have different level of risk appetite - some of us are close to retirement so risk tolerance is low. Cytonn type of investment was something i did around '98 to 2010 (more so with buying land, holding and selling). Then i moved into consolidation of investment which are risk averse with certainty and easy to manage. Infrastructure bonds, yes but then again their long term nature is not ideal for me now. some of the incitements are also 'family' driven/controlled - mpaka you agree the direction you are taking with mzee. Ni hayo tu!!! By the way it is not like we are only invested in BBK. We understand you Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Horton wrote:rwitre wrote:obiero wrote:Monk wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:lochaz-index wrote:obiero wrote:Only 7 days remain for the 8 remaining listed banks to release their Q3 performance.. Very delayed, very worrying Not surprising to see that only tier one banks have complied. Very telling. Smaller banks are undergoing unprecedented struggles What about Angelica's BBK? Things have really changed, there was a time they used to be the first to realise the results. Now they have to wait for London to ok first Joburg Wololo my bad, thanks for the correction. I have not adopted to the change You also need to adopt to the reality that BBK is not a growth stock. Their lack of county business means that they now cater to a dwindling SME as they already lost out on retail pool.. Hama na unishukuru baadaye.. At 9% dividend yield, it is attractive to those more interested in this return, rather than capital gains. So 500 BBK shares worth circa KES 5,400 will give you an annual dividend of KES 400.. Bure returns! I would rather sell smokies Hate all you will, but 9% dividend yield is gains at the end of the day. And in a bear market where people are deep in the red, others with paper losses exceeding -70%, that "meagre 9%" dividend is paying bills and buying nice suits. True however, if you just want the 9% isn’t Cytonn better? arent infrastructure bonds better? Also KCB yields 8% but also has the capital appreciation as it is cheap? Surely you can do better than 9% before tax which is not a guaranteed rate of return People have different level of risk appetite - some of us are close to retirement so risk tolerance is low. Cytonn type of investment was something i did around '98 to 2010 (more so with buying land, holding and selling). Then i moved into consolidation of investment which are risk averse with certainty and easy to manage. Infrastructure bonds, yes but then again their long term nature is not ideal for me now. some of the incitements are also 'family' driven/controlled - mpaka you agree the direction you are taking with mzee. Ni hayo tu!!! By the way it is not like we are only invested in BBK. We understand you The problem is depending on the NSE for buying new suits. What if investment ikunywe maji kama ARM, KQ, Deacons, KK, UNGA.. does it mean you go without a new suit until suspension is lifted?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,096 Location: Nairobi
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KK and Unga pay dividends  And do NOT invest in the stockmarket what you need to live on. This stuff is for retirement or discretionary expenses. Nowadays, I usually just reinvest dividends. I hardly put in new cash. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:KK and Unga pay dividends And do NOT invest in the stockmarket what you need to live on. This stuff is for retirement or discretionary expenses. Nowadays, I usually just reinvest dividends. I hardly put in new cash. BBK Q3 Performance highlights: billion PAT up 2% Customer deposits grew by10% to Kshs. 220 billion Customer Loans and advances up 7% to Kshs178 billion Total revenue growth at 6% to Kshs 23.9 billion. billion Non performing loans up 64%
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:KK and Unga pay dividends And do NOT invest in the stockmarket what you need to live on. This stuff is for retirement or discretionary expenses. Nowadays, I usually just reinvest dividends. I hardly put in new cash. BBK Q3 Performance highlights: billion PAT up 2% Customer deposits grew by10% to Kshs. 220 billion Customer Loans and advances up 7% to Kshs178 billion Total revenue growth at 6% to Kshs 23.9 billion. billion Non performing loans up 64% Wow look at those NPLs 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:KK and Unga pay dividends And do NOT invest in the stockmarket what you need to live on. This stuff is for retirement or discretionary expenses. Nowadays, I usually just reinvest dividends. I hardly put in new cash. BBK Q3 Performance highlights: billion PAT up 2% Customer deposits grew by10% to Kshs. 220 billion Customer Loans and advances up 7% to Kshs178 billion Total revenue growth at 6% to Kshs 23.9 billion. billion Non performing loans up 64% Yikes! What transpired with regards to the NPLs? The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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