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Deacons HY18
VituVingiSana
#21 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 1:54:40 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
@VVS once said this is the next Gap https://www.businessdail...57592-t1ncb5/index.html d'oh! d'oh! Shame on you

Dear @thedeal,

If you can find and post the so-called quote I made that "this is the next Gap" [please post the entire quote/post so it is in context] then I will admit it AND donate $100 to a charity that plants trees. Please provide the date and thread of the quote as well.

If you cannot find the so-called quote you said I made that "this is the next Gap" then as an apology, please send $100 to the same charity as indicated above.

I shall provide info of this charity as soon as we have the answer.

This is line with my new resolution of discussing the merits and demerits of investments.

Sincerely,

VVS

P.S. Doesn't apply to @Obiero (& KQ) coz I want a little fun Laughing out loudly plus he still owes me 100k + interest smile

Lol. Let me help look for the quote, seems like something you would say..
Let him back up his words with $100!
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Fyatu
#22 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 3:02:52 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
wukan wrote:
The CEO earns 23m a year to run this thing to the ground and burn shareholders and bondholders to recognition. Kenya has a peculiar way of rewarding mediocrity


There are bondholders in here, whah Corporate governance in Kenya goes back to the dogs. Pole kwao!!!!


Pain. Was this firm also listed by introduction and not by IPO? There is a pattern here on our soko mjinga(NSE)....
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Ericsson
#23 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 4:26:37 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
wukan wrote:
The CEO earns 23m a year to run this thing to the ground and burn shareholders and bondholders to recognition. Kenya has a peculiar way of rewarding mediocrity


There are bondholders in here, whah Corporate governance in Kenya goes back to the dogs. Pole kwao!!!!


Pain. Was this firm also listed by introduction and not by IPO? There is a pattern here on our soko mjinga(NSE)....


A production of the tough economic times,when you saw empty malls,just know they were the next casualties
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2012
#24 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:53:16 AM
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I still don't understand why Deacons did not go online. Their core business should have been online since they had already built trust from customers. Huge opportunity missed.

BBI will solve it
:)
Ericsson
#25 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:58:29 AM
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2012 wrote:
I still don't understand why Deacons did not go online. Their core business should have been online since they had already built trust from customers. Huge opportunity missed.


Ask Safaricom and its masoko then you'll realise online isn't that lucrative in Kenya
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Angelica _ann
#26 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 1:32:01 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
2012 wrote:
I still don't understand why Deacons did not go online. Their core business should have been online since they had already built trust from customers. Huge opportunity missed.


Ask Safaricom and its masoko then you'll realise online isn't that lucrative in Kenya


How come Kilimall and Jumia online seem to be doing just fine?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#27 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 1:48:38 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
2012 wrote:
I still don't understand why Deacons did not go online. Their core business should have been online since they had already built trust from customers. Huge opportunity missed.


Ask Safaricom and its masoko then you'll realise online isn't that lucrative in Kenya


How come Kilimall and Jumia online seem to be doing just fine?


Jumia online is doing fine ?????
Read the below;
https://www.businessdail...6688-baq1s7z/index.html

E-commerce company Jumia has sunk deeper in the red, posting a Sh14.9 billion loss before tax and other costs in the year ended December compared to Sh11.3 billion a year earlier.

The loss does not give an indication of the company’s bottom-line as it excludes most of the standard business expenses including finance costs, depreciation and stock-based compensation.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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VituVingiSana
#28 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 3:19:37 PM
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Lots of complaints about Jumia.
Jumia is a platform and not the seller for many of the items so quality control may be an issue.
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Horton
#29 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 3:58:05 PM
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I remember Centum trying to buy a stake in Deacons and then backed out. Was intelligent of them. They must have seen this coming I guess
Ericsson
#30 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 4:17:33 PM
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Horton wrote:
I remember Centum trying to buy a stake in Deacons and then backed out. Was intelligent of them. They must have seen this coming I guess


But they bought KREP Bank
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