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VituVingiSana		#291 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2018 7:03:33 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi		heri wrote: When did KK pay the dividend and was it at .30 per share? i am not able to reconcile what i got in my bank account and the shares i have 0.36 (less W/Tax) Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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VituVingiSana		#292 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2018 7:08:59 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi		obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: It seems CMA is only investigating the non-Rubis trades [unless I am mistaken] so the takeover is still progressing. The only question may be whether the "sellers" or the "buyers" (of the other trades from 15-23rd) get 23/- from Rubis. The rest of us can still sell to Rubis as soon as the deal is concluded. But will it be concluded? I sent you the information about Rubis on this same thread. Unless you chose to ignore it I chose to stick with a profitable firm Wewe nahisi ni mkora! How come you always get involved with firms that end up in contested buyouts Buyouts/Takeovers invariably have competing interests. The buyers want to pay as little as possible. The sellers want as much as possible. The most contentious was Rea Vipingo BUT the shareholders got 85 from 40 (shares were trading at 27) albeit after a longer period. Unga - The buyers wanted to pay 40. We (the 30%) want a higher price. Let's see what happens. The intention of Rubis is clear i.e. they want to buy out KK. I think the investigation is around the other large trades between the 15-23 October. This should not stop Rubis from their pursuit of the "uncontested" shares. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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obiero		#293 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:07:18 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi		VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: It seems CMA is only investigating the non-Rubis trades [unless I am mistaken] so the takeover is still progressing. The only question may be whether the "sellers" or the "buyers" (of the other trades from 15-23rd) get 23/- from Rubis. The rest of us can still sell to Rubis as soon as the deal is concluded. But will it be concluded? I sent you the information about Rubis on this same thread. Unless you chose to ignore it I chose to stick with a profitable firm Wewe nahisi ni mkora! How come you always get involved with firms that end up in contested buyouts Buyouts/Takeovers invariably have competing interests. The buyers want to pay as little as possible. The sellers want as much as possible. The most contentious was Rea Vipingo BUT the shareholders got 85 from 40 (shares were trading at 27) albeit after a longer period. Unga - The buyers wanted to pay 40. We (the 30%) want a higher price. Let's see what happens. The intention of Rubis is clear i.e. they want to buy out KK. I think the investigation is around the other large trades between the 15-23 October. This should not stop Rubis from their pursuit of the "uncontested" shares. I wish you well KQ ABP 4.26
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sparkly		#294 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:46:18 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi		obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: It seems CMA is only investigating the non-Rubis trades [unless I am mistaken] so the takeover is still progressing. The only question may be whether the "sellers" or the "buyers" (of the other trades from 15-23rd) get 23/- from Rubis. The rest of us can still sell to Rubis as soon as the deal is concluded. But will it be concluded? I sent you the information about Rubis on this same thread. Unless you chose to ignore it I chose to stick with a profitable firm Wewe nahisi ni mkora! How come you always get involved with firms that end up in contested buyouts Buyouts/Takeovers invariably have competing interests. The buyers want to pay as little as possible. The sellers want as much as possible. The most contentious was Rea Vipingo BUT the shareholders got 85 from 40 (shares were trading at 27) albeit after a longer period. Unga - The buyers wanted to pay 40. We (the 30%) want a higher price. Let's see what happens. The intention of Rubis is clear i.e. they want to buy out KK. I think the investigation is around the other large trades between the 15-23 October. This should not stop Rubis from their pursuit of the "uncontested" shares. I wish you well KK has Suitors, KQ has Creditors. Seems to me KQ shareholders need more of the well wishing. Life is short. Live passionately.
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obiero		#295 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2018 3:08:28 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi		sparkly wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: It seems CMA is only investigating the non-Rubis trades [unless I am mistaken] so the takeover is still progressing. The only question may be whether the "sellers" or the "buyers" (of the other trades from 15-23rd) get 23/- from Rubis. The rest of us can still sell to Rubis as soon as the deal is concluded. But will it be concluded? I sent you the information about Rubis on this same thread. Unless you chose to ignore it I chose to stick with a profitable firm Wewe nahisi ni mkora! How come you always get involved with firms that end up in contested buyouts Buyouts/Takeovers invariably have competing interests. The buyers want to pay as little as possible. The sellers want as much as possible. The most contentious was Rea Vipingo BUT the shareholders got 85 from 40 (shares were trading at 27) albeit after a longer period. Unga - The buyers wanted to pay 40. We (the 30%) want a higher price. Let's see what happens. The intention of Rubis is clear i.e. they want to buy out KK. I think the investigation is around the other large trades between the 15-23 October. This should not stop Rubis from their pursuit of the "uncontested" shares. I wish you well KK has Suitors, KQ has Creditors. Seems to me KQ shareholders need more of the well wishing. Okay KQ ABP 4.26
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VituVingiSana		#296 Posted : Sunday, November 04, 2018 12:19:38 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi		sparkly wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: It seems CMA is only investigating the non-Rubis trades [unless I am mistaken] so the takeover is still progressing. The only question may be whether the "sellers" or the "buyers" (of the other trades from 15-23rd) get 23/- from Rubis. The rest of us can still sell to Rubis as soon as the deal is concluded. But will it be concluded? I sent you the information about Rubis on this same thread. Unless you chose to ignore it I chose to stick with a profitable firm Wewe nahisi ni mkora! How come you always get involved with firms that end up in contested buyouts Buyouts/Takeovers invariably have competing interests. The buyers want to pay as little as possible. The sellers want as much as possible. The most contentious was Rea Vipingo BUT the shareholders got 85 from 40 (shares were trading at 27) albeit after a longer period. Unga - The buyers wanted to pay 40. We (the 30%) want a higher price. Let's see what happens. The intention of Rubis is clear i.e. they want to buy out KK. I think the investigation is around the other large trades between the 15-23 October. This should not stop Rubis from their pursuit of the "uncontested" shares. I wish you well KK has Suitors, KQ has Creditors. Seems to me KQ shareholders need more of the well wishing. While KK's shareholders are waiting for mahari for their daughter KQ's shareholders are being asked to refund the mahari Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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obiero		#297 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2018 8:00:20 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi		VituVingiSana wrote: sparkly wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: It seems CMA is only investigating the non-Rubis trades [unless I am mistaken] so the takeover is still progressing. The only question may be whether the "sellers" or the "buyers" (of the other trades from 15-23rd) get 23/- from Rubis. The rest of us can still sell to Rubis as soon as the deal is concluded. But will it be concluded? I sent you the information about Rubis on this same thread. Unless you chose to ignore it I chose to stick with a profitable firm Wewe nahisi ni mkora! How come you always get involved with firms that end up in contested buyouts Buyouts/Takeovers invariably have competing interests. The buyers want to pay as little as possible. The sellers want as much as possible. The most contentious was Rea Vipingo BUT the shareholders got 85 from 40 (shares were trading at 27) albeit after a longer period. Unga - The buyers wanted to pay 40. We (the 30%) want a higher price. Let's see what happens. The intention of Rubis is clear i.e. they want to buy out KK. I think the investigation is around the other large trades between the 15-23 October. This should not stop Rubis from their pursuit of the "uncontested" shares. I wish you well KK has Suitors, KQ has Creditors. Seems to me KQ shareholders need more of the well wishing. While KK's shareholders are waiting for mahari for their daughter KQ's shareholders are being asked to refund the mahari Fraudulent shareholders and now fraudulent management.. https://www.businessdail...836550-e0bah8/index.html KQ ABP 4.26
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VituVingiSana		#298 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2018 9:57:33 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi		obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: sparkly wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: It seems CMA is only investigating the non-Rubis trades [unless I am mistaken] so the takeover is still progressing. The only question may be whether the "sellers" or the "buyers" (of the other trades from 15-23rd) get 23/- from Rubis. The rest of us can still sell to Rubis as soon as the deal is concluded. But will it be concluded? I sent you the information about Rubis on this same thread. Unless you chose to ignore it I chose to stick with a profitable firm Wewe nahisi ni mkora! How come you always get involved with firms that end up in contested buyouts Buyouts/Takeovers invariably have competing interests. The buyers want to pay as little as possible. The sellers want as much as possible. The most contentious was Rea Vipingo BUT the shareholders got 85 from 40 (shares were trading at 27) albeit after a longer period. Unga - The buyers wanted to pay 40. We (the 30%) want a higher price. Let's see what happens. The intention of Rubis is clear i.e. they want to buy out KK. I think the investigation is around the other large trades between the 15-23 October. This should not stop Rubis from their pursuit of the "uncontested" shares. I wish you well KK has Suitors, KQ has Creditors. Seems to me KQ shareholders need more of the well wishing. While KK's shareholders are waiting for mahari for their daughter KQ's shareholders are being asked to refund the mahari Fraudulent shareholders and now fraudulent management.. https://www.businessdail...36550-e0bah8/index.html We are not waiting for "Open Offers" but enjoying 2 dividends/year + a (potential) buyout. As for the mere KES 59mn tax demand by KRA... Nevertheless, thank you for your concern. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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VituVingiSana		#299 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2018 10:19:27 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi		Rubis is huge compared to KK. https://rubis.fr/media/2...entation_s1-2018-uk.pdf The FY 2017-18 Net Profit was Euro 129mn which is about 45% of what KK is valued at 23/-. The shareholder equity is E2.2bn = KES 250b (KK is valued at 35bn) A serious bunch given they already have bought 25% of KK. ERC, CMA and all those other characters should allow this deal to close soon so they can Show me the Money! In 2-9 months, I shall say a fond farewell to this thread. The haters can look for me on Unga, KenRe and I&M [Core Holdings] And Centum too! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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whiteowl		#300 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2018 10:36:16 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove		VituVingiSana wrote: Rubis is huge compared to KK. https://rubis.fr/media/2...entation_s1-2018-uk.pdf The FY 2017-18 Net Profit was Euro 129mn which is about 45% of what KK is valued at 23/-. The shareholder equity is E2.2bn = KES 250b (KK is valued at 35bn) A serious bunch given they already have bought 25% of KK. ERC, CMA and all those other characters should allow this deal to close soon so they can Show me the Money! In 2-9 months, I shall say a fond farewell to this thread. The haters can look for me on Unga, KenRe and I&M [Core Holdings] And Centum too! I got on this bus when it was around 8/= and I'm not in a hurry to sell even if the buyout doesnt go through.
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