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Maize and Stima scandals
limanika
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:11:03 PM
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Anyone keeping track to tell us how much we've lost so far?.
thuks
#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:14:49 PM
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limanika wrote:
Anyone keeping track to tell us how much we've lost so far?.

Maize reported to be 17B,
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Thitifini
#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2018 11:46:29 PM
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limanika wrote:
Anyone keeping track to tell us how much we've lost so far?.


Stop distracting us. We are in the Prisons one sasa.

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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2018 9:29:59 AM
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hardwood
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:46:46 AM
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Eti they (cartels) bought subsidized maize from NCPB at 2300 and sold it back to NCPB at 3600. Others bought from uganda at 1600 and sold to ncpb at 3600. Govt should just get out of this maize business. Let maize farmers sell to the market just like potato, rice, wheat, fish, milk etc farmers do. That strategic grain reserve is just a channel for theft of wanjiku funds.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2018 12:10:20 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Eti they (cartels) bought subsidized maize from NCPB at 2300 and sold it back to NCPB at 3600. Others bought from uganda at 1600 and sold to ncpb at 3600. Govt should just get out of this maize business. Let maize farmers sell to the market just like potato, rice, wheat, fish, milk etc farmers do. That strategic grain reserve is just a channel for theft of wanjiku funds.


Nothing wrong with Jubilee eating from the people who elected them. Let us support our government please.
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KulaRaha
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2018 12:45:21 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Eti they (cartels) bought subsidized maize from NCPB at 2300 and sold it back to NCPB at 3600. Others bought from uganda at 1600 and sold to ncpb at 3600. Govt should just get out of this maize business. Let maize farmers sell to the market just like potato, rice, wheat, fish, milk etc farmers do. That strategic grain reserve is just a channel for theft of wanjiku funds.


Nothing wrong with Jubilee eating from the people who elected them. Let us support our government please.


Those voting robots should be happy their money was eaten...it is a privilege to be a voting victim!

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#8 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2018 1:01:05 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Eti they (cartels) bought subsidized maize from NCPB at 2300 and sold it back to NCPB at 3600. Others bought from uganda at 1600 and sold to ncpb at 3600. Govt should just get out of this maize business. Let maize farmers sell to the market just like potato, rice, wheat, fish, milk etc farmers do. That strategic grain reserve is just a channel for theft of wanjiku funds.


Nothing wrong with Jubilee eating from the people who elected them. Let us support our government please.


Those voting robots should be happy their money was eaten...it is a privilege to be a voting victim!

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shadowinvestor
#9 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2018 2:16:24 PM
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Is it Stolen money/ Taxes not paid? I thought Maize was tax free due to the special importation terms of quantity and was to be subsidized

thuks wrote:
limanika wrote:
Anyone keeping track to tell us how much we've lost so far?.

Maize reported to be 17B,

limanika
#10 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2018 2:55:55 PM
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shadowinvestor wrote:
Is it Stolen money/ Taxes not paid? I thought Maize was tax free due to the special importation terms of quantity and was to be subsidized

thuks wrote:
limanika wrote:
Anyone keeping track to tell us how much we've lost so far?.

Maize reported to be 17B,



Did i hear from kiunjuri on national tv that some of those deliveries were just phantom deliveries..and that some delivery notes were photocopied several times over and presented over and over again for payment. So it's possible the line that traders bought from UG is not entirely true. I think Kenya is rotten Society
hardwood
#11 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2018 7:25:38 PM
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Now KEBS says 65% of maize at NCPB stores is contaminated with aflatoxins due to poor storage and is unfit/poisonous for human consumption. NB aflatoxins are major cancer causing agents and also paralyse the liver and kidneys. Why is jumbiree doing this to us?
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih...pmc/articles/PMC1314947/
limanika
#12 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2018 7:33:31 AM
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[quote=hardwood]Now KEBS says 65% of maize at NCPB stores is contaminated with aflatoxins due to poor storage and is unfit/poisonous for human consumption. NB aflatoxins are major cancer causing agents and also paralyse the liver and kidneys. Why is jumbiree doing this to us?
#cancerReloaded

Rink: 7pm TV news.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih...mc/articles/PMC1314947/[/quote]
I think that's not true. This being Kenya, someone is trying 1) frustrate uhuru's efforts to do an audit by destroying the maize in stores 2) since stores are full, have good maize destroyed so they can supply afresh

This is rotten society indeed. By the way, why does govt still buy maize and then sell to millers? Why can't millers buy directly from farmers? Like happens with Rice?Still wondering why govt finding it hard pay debts? Kiunjuri should go for benchmarking trip to mwea rice scheme
Angelica _ann
#13 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2018 9:16:16 AM
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Which efforts? Toothless talk ~ bordering on incompetency.
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murchr
#14 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2018 7:12:56 PM
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Will Kiunjuri be able to streamline the Agriculture Ministry really?



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limanika
#15 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2018 8:21:32 PM
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murchr wrote:
Will Kiunjuri be able to streamline the Agriculture Ministry really?





Uphill task. Maybe the condition for the docket to shift from yuarapii was that it be given to cs of their choice. Someone they'll be able to take round in circles
murchr
#16 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2018 4:08:18 AM
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Where is the economic sense of NCPB?

Buy maize from "farmers" at Ksh 3600/-

Sell the maize at 2000/- to millers Shame on you

What determines the price?

If Uhuru is serious he needs to create a commodities exchange and do away with NCPB the silos can be used as storage.
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T-Bag
#17 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2018 7:52:36 PM
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I pass by the Nairobi Industrial area NCPB at 7.00 am everyday, and there are big lorries with TZ number plates lining up to offload some kind of load, who is fooling who?

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T-Bag
#18 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2018 5:52:29 PM
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checked today again, cartels moved on, it is actually wheat being unloaded, Kenyan wheat farmers are being F$%*3d up once more
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murchr
#19 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2018 5:54:51 PM
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T-Bag wrote:
checked today again, cartels moved on, it is actually wheat being unloaded, Kenyan wheat farmers are being F$%*3d up once more


Yet wheat farmers are harvesting.
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murchr
#20 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:07:33 PM
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If you don't know, now you know.

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