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Uchumi HY 2018, the disaster
HaMaina
#61 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:47:13 PM
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Posts: 931
kayhara wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:


The monkey will definitely die

Uchumi ilifungwa ni vumbi iko kwa shelves and a few expiring goods..The court's won't help much rent and salaries are accruing...Why is uchumi trading???ARM is better


The government and its 14% shareholding is keeping it up... plus in the last two years the government has given it 1.2 Billion in shareholder loans...This thing will not go down anytime soon...The Treasury doesn't write down or make provision for its commercial investment...if it was to go down with the shareholders loans...it would make Noise in government quarters....This thing will be babysat until its on the legs...Take this to the bank

Everything you say is true until you mention that it will not die. It will die. And they may just get more tax-payers money but it will still die. Why? They are accruing debt in guise of keeping the doors open. The money they may get will be to pay down debt (Rent, connected suppliers, thieves, salaries, genuine wanjiku suppliers in that order.)
In this tournament there is no longer extra-time, it's sudden death!


Hahaha...It has limped like a Billie Holiday on her death bed...Many times The Mortician has been called only to find the Patient Moving his eyelids... Meanwhile the fatter patients in the same Ward have gone to the Morgue... earlier

Please stop talking about uchumi death, I hold about 68k pieces but I can't sell at the moment due to the serious loss on the account, I will hold hoping for positive news on 17th, my other monkeys have stopped bleeding ie mumias and homeafrika, hii ni pressure.


17th of which month ? And what news are you counting on ?
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
kayhara
#62 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:03:39 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 5/5/2011
Posts: 1,059
HaMaina wrote:
kayhara wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:


The monkey will definitely die

Uchumi ilifungwa ni vumbi iko kwa shelves and a few expiring goods..The court's won't help much rent and salaries are accruing...Why is uchumi trading???ARM is better


The government and its 14% shareholding is keeping it up... plus in the last two years the government has given it 1.2 Billion in shareholder loans...This thing will not go down anytime soon...The Treasury doesn't write down or make provision for its commercial investment...if it was to go down with the shareholders loans...it would make Noise in government quarters....This thing will be babysat until its on the legs...Take this to the bank

Everything you say is true until you mention that it will not die. It will die. And they may just get more tax-payers money but it will still die. Why? They are accruing debt in guise of keeping the doors open. The money they may get will be to pay down debt (Rent, connected suppliers, thieves, salaries, genuine wanjiku suppliers in that order.)
In this tournament there is no longer extra-time, it's sudden death!


Hahaha...It has limped like a Billie Holiday on her death bed...Many times The Mortician has been called only to find the Patient Moving his eyelids... Meanwhile the fatter patients in the same Ward have gone to the Morgue... earlier

Please stop talking about uchumi death, I hold about 68k pieces but I can't sell at the moment due to the serious loss on the account, I will hold hoping for positive news on 17th, my other monkeys have stopped bleeding ie mumias and homeafrika, hii ni pressure.


17th of which month ? And what news are you counting on ?

there is a mention of the liquidation case tomorrow by githunguri dairy
To Each His Own
kayhara
#63 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:56:18 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 5/5/2011
Posts: 1,059
kayhara wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
kayhara wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:


The monkey will definitely die

Uchumi ilifungwa ni vumbi iko kwa shelves and a few expiring goods..The court's won't help much rent and salaries are accruing...Why is uchumi trading???ARM is better


The government and its 14% shareholding is keeping it up... plus in the last two years the government has given it 1.2 Billion in shareholder loans...This thing will not go down anytime soon...The Treasury doesn't write down or make provision for its commercial investment...if it was to go down with the shareholders loans...it would make Noise in government quarters....This thing will be babysat until its on the legs...Take this to the bank

Everything you say is true until you mention that it will not die. It will die. And they may just get more tax-payers money but it will still die. Why? They are accruing debt in guise of keeping the doors open. The money they may get will be to pay down debt (Rent, connected suppliers, thieves, salaries, genuine wanjiku suppliers in that order.)
In this tournament there is no longer extra-time, it's sudden death!


Hahaha...It has limped like a Billie Holiday on her death bed...Many times The Mortician has been called only to find the Patient Moving his eyelids... Meanwhile the fatter patients in the same Ward have gone to the Morgue... earlier

Please stop talking about uchumi death, I hold about 68k pieces but I can't sell at the moment due to the serious loss on the account, I will hold hoping for positive news on 17th, my other monkeys have stopped bleeding ie mumias and homeafrika, hii ni pressure.


17th of which month ? And what news are you counting on ?

there is a mention of the liquidation case tomorrow by githunguri dairy

Quote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Uchumi-wind-up-claims-approach-Sh500-million/4003102-4811128-ywb1as/index.html

Thing are thick n this one, the winding up with 500 million claims, GoK can spit up that amount maisha iendelee
To Each His Own
Ericsson
#64 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:59:35 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
kayhara wrote:
kayhara wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
kayhara wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:


The monkey will definitely die

Uchumi ilifungwa ni vumbi iko kwa shelves and a few expiring goods..The court's won't help much rent and salaries are accruing...Why is uchumi trading???ARM is better


The government and its 14% shareholding is keeping it up... plus in the last two years the government has given it 1.2 Billion in shareholder loans...This thing will not go down anytime soon...The Treasury doesn't write down or make provision for its commercial investment...if it was to go down with the shareholders loans...it would make Noise in government quarters....This thing will be babysat until its on the legs...Take this to the bank

Everything you say is true until you mention that it will not die. It will die. And they may just get more tax-payers money but it will still die. Why? They are accruing debt in guise of keeping the doors open. The money they may get will be to pay down debt (Rent, connected suppliers, thieves, salaries, genuine wanjiku suppliers in that order.)
In this tournament there is no longer extra-time, it's sudden death!


Hahaha...It has limped like a Billie Holiday on her death bed...Many times The Mortician has been called only to find the Patient Moving his eyelids... Meanwhile the fatter patients in the same Ward have gone to the Morgue... earlier

Please stop talking about uchumi death, I hold about 68k pieces but I can't sell at the moment due to the serious loss on the account, I will hold hoping for positive news on 17th, my other monkeys have stopped bleeding ie mumias and homeafrika, hii ni pressure.


17th of which month ? And what news are you counting on ?

there is a mention of the liquidation case tomorrow by githunguri dairy

Quote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Uchumi-wind-up-claims-approach-Sh500-million/4003102-4811128-ywb1as/index.html

Thing are thick n this one, the winding up with 500 million claims, GoK can spit up that amount maisha iendelee


Gone for good.This will be in the history books
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KaunganaDoDo
#65 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:19:38 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/6/2018
Posts: 299
kayhara wrote:
kayhara wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
kayhara wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:


The monkey will definitely die

Uchumi ilifungwa ni vumbi iko kwa shelves and a few expiring goods..The court's won't help much rent and salaries are accruing...Why is uchumi trading???ARM is better


The government and its 14% shareholding is keeping it up... plus in the last two years the government has given it 1.2 Billion in shareholder loans...This thing will not go down anytime soon...The Treasury doesn't write down or make provision for its commercial investment...if it was to go down with the shareholders loans...it would make Noise in government quarters....This thing will be babysat until its on the legs...Take this to the bank

Everything you say is true until you mention that it will not die. It will die. And they may just get more tax-payers money but it will still die. Why? They are accruing debt in guise of keeping the doors open. The money they may get will be to pay down debt (Rent, connected suppliers, thieves, salaries, genuine wanjiku suppliers in that order.)
In this tournament there is no longer extra-time, it's sudden death!


Hahaha...It has limped like a Billie Holiday on her death bed...Many times The Mortician has been called only to find the Patient Moving his eyelids... Meanwhile the fatter patients in the same Ward have gone to the Morgue... earlier

Please stop talking about uchumi death, I hold about 68k pieces but I can't sell at the moment due to the serious loss on the account, I will hold hoping for positive news on 17th, my other monkeys have stopped bleeding ie mumias and homeafrika, hii ni pressure.


17th of which month ? And what news are you counting on ?

there is a mention of the liquidation case tomorrow by githunguri dairy

Quote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Uchumi-wind-up-claims-approach-Sh500-million/4003102-4811128-ywb1as/index.html

Thing are thick n this one, the winding up with 500 million claims, GoK can spit up that amount maisha iendelee


This one is not going anywhere... Most creditors don't favour Liquidation...They know why...500M against total claims of 3.6B is not significant... They need more than 2B of creditors...which they don't have now.
kayhara
#66 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:43:01 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 5/5/2011
Posts: 1,059
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
kayhara wrote:
kayhara wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
kayhara wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:


The monkey will definitely die

Uchumi ilifungwa ni vumbi iko kwa shelves and a few expiring goods..The court's won't help much rent and salaries are accruing...Why is uchumi trading???ARM is better


The government and its 14% shareholding is keeping it up... plus in the last two years the government has given it 1.2 Billion in shareholder loans...This thing will not go down anytime soon...The Treasury doesn't write down or make provision for its commercial investment...if it was to go down with the shareholders loans...it would make Noise in government quarters....This thing will be babysat until its on the legs...Take this to the bank

Everything you say is true until you mention that it will not die. It will die. And they may just get more tax-payers money but it will still die. Why? They are accruing debt in guise of keeping the doors open. The money they may get will be to pay down debt (Rent, connected suppliers, thieves, salaries, genuine wanjiku suppliers in that order.)
In this tournament there is no longer extra-time, it's sudden death!


Hahaha...It has limped like a Billie Holiday on her death bed...Many times The Mortician has been called only to find the Patient Moving his eyelids... Meanwhile the fatter patients in the same Ward have gone to the Morgue... earlier

Please stop talking about uchumi death, I hold about 68k pieces but I can't sell at the moment due to the serious loss on the account, I will hold hoping for positive news on 17th, my other monkeys have stopped bleeding ie mumias and homeafrika, hii ni pressure.


17th of which month ? And what news are you counting on ?

there is a mention of the liquidation case tomorrow by githunguri dairy

Quote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Uchumi-wind-up-claims-approach-Sh500-million/4003102-4811128-ywb1as/index.html

Thing are thick n this one, the winding up with 500 million claims, GoK can spit up that amount maisha iendelee


This one is not going anywhere... Most creditors don't favour Liquidation...They know why...500M against total claims of 3.6B is not significant... They need more than 2B of creditors...which they don't have now.

Anyone with access to historical data on uchumi? Has it ever hit the 0.7 lows of today? I actually bought some today, I don't know if I will be among the proverbial guys who are left holding the tail after all the best parts of a cow has been butchered.
To Each His Own
obiero
#67 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:56:56 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
kayhara wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
kayhara wrote:
kayhara wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
kayhara wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:


The monkey will definitely die

Uchumi ilifungwa ni vumbi iko kwa shelves and a few expiring goods..The court's won't help much rent and salaries are accruing...Why is uchumi trading???ARM is better


The government and its 14% shareholding is keeping it up... plus in the last two years the government has given it 1.2 Billion in shareholder loans...This thing will not go down anytime soon...The Treasury doesn't write down or make provision for its commercial investment...if it was to go down with the shareholders loans...it would make Noise in government quarters....This thing will be babysat until its on the legs...Take this to the bank

Everything you say is true until you mention that it will not die. It will die. And they may just get more tax-payers money but it will still die. Why? They are accruing debt in guise of keeping the doors open. The money they may get will be to pay down debt (Rent, connected suppliers, thieves, salaries, genuine wanjiku suppliers in that order.)
In this tournament there is no longer extra-time, it's sudden death!


Hahaha...It has limped like a Billie Holiday on her death bed...Many times The Mortician has been called only to find the Patient Moving his eyelids... Meanwhile the fatter patients in the same Ward have gone to the Morgue... earlier

Please stop talking about uchumi death, I hold about 68k pieces but I can't sell at the moment due to the serious loss on the account, I will hold hoping for positive news on 17th, my other monkeys have stopped bleeding ie mumias and homeafrika, hii ni pressure.


17th of which month ? And what news are you counting on ?

there is a mention of the liquidation case tomorrow by githunguri dairy

Quote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Uchumi-wind-up-claims-approach-Sh500-million/4003102-4811128-ywb1as/index.html

Thing are thick n this one, the winding up with 500 million claims, GoK can spit up that amount maisha iendelee


This one is not going anywhere... Most creditors don't favour Liquidation...They know why...500M against total claims of 3.6B is not significant... They need more than 2B of creditors...which they don't have now.

Anyone with access to historical data on uchumi? Has it ever hit the 0.7 lows of today? I actually bought some today, I don't know if I will be among the proverbial guys who are left holding the tail after all the best parts of a cow has been butchered.

You will be worse than the guy you describe. Yours will be a smelly tail..

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HaMaina
#68 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:09:54 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/23/2014
Posts: 931
kayhara wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
kayhara wrote:
kayhara wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
kayhara wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:


The monkey will definitely die

Uchumi ilifungwa ni vumbi iko kwa shelves and a few expiring goods..The court's won't help much rent and salaries are accruing...Why is uchumi trading???ARM is better


The government and its 14% shareholding is keeping it up... plus in the last two years the government has given it 1.2 Billion in shareholder loans...This thing will not go down anytime soon...The Treasury doesn't write down or make provision for its commercial investment...if it was to go down with the shareholders loans...it would make Noise in government quarters....This thing will be babysat until its on the legs...Take this to the bank

Everything you say is true until you mention that it will not die. It will die. And they may just get more tax-payers money but it will still die. Why? They are accruing debt in guise of keeping the doors open. The money they may get will be to pay down debt (Rent, connected suppliers, thieves, salaries, genuine wanjiku suppliers in that order.)
In this tournament there is no longer extra-time, it's sudden death!


Hahaha...It has limped like a Billie Holiday on her death bed...Many times The Mortician has been called only to find the Patient Moving his eyelids... Meanwhile the fatter patients in the same Ward have gone to the Morgue... earlier

Please stop talking about uchumi death, I hold about 68k pieces but I can't sell at the moment due to the serious loss on the account, I will hold hoping for positive news on 17th, my other monkeys have stopped bleeding ie mumias and homeafrika, hii ni pressure.


17th of which month ? And what news are you counting on ?

there is a mention of the liquidation case tomorrow by githunguri dairy

Quote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Uchumi-wind-up-claims-approach-Sh500-million/4003102-4811128-ywb1as/index.html

Thing are thick n this one, the winding up with 500 million claims, GoK can spit up that amount maisha iendelee


This one is not going anywhere... Most creditors don't favour Liquidation...They know why...500M against total claims of 3.6B is not significant... They need more than 2B of creditors...which they don't have now.

Anyone with access to historical data on uchumi? Has it ever hit the 0.7 lows of today? I actually bought some today, I don't know if I will be among the proverbial guys who are left holding the tail after all the best parts of a cow has been butchered.


I'm with you here, also put kidogo money on this one. let me see how it plays out.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
Pesa Nane
#69 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 1:02:32 PM
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Angelica _ann
#70 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 1:06:00 PM
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