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hardwood wrote:These Saudis are animals....
https://www.middleeastey...sive-khashoggi-829291552
Quote:It took seven minutes for Jamal Khashoggi to die, a Turkish source who has listened in full to an audio recording of the Saudi journalist's last moments told Middle East Eye.
Khashoggi was dragged from the Consul General’s office at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul and onto the table of his study next door, the Turkish source said.
Horrendous screams were then heard by a witness downstairs, the source said.
"The consul himself was taken out of the room. There was no attempt to interrogate him. They had come to kill him,” the source told MEE.
The screaming stopped when Khashoggi - who was last seen entering the Saudi consulate on 2 October - was injected with an as yet unknown substance.
Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, who has been identified as the head of forensic evidence in the Saudi general security department, was one of the 15-member squad who arrived in Ankara earlier that day on a private jet.
Tubaigy began to cut Khashoggi’s body up on a table in the study while he was still alive, the Turkish source said.
The killing took seven minutes, the source said.
As he started to dismember the body, Tubaigy put on earphones and listened to music. He advised other members of the squad to do the same.
“When I do this job, I listen to music. You should do [that] too,” Tubaigy was recorded as saying, the source told MEE.
A three-minute version of the audio tape has been given to Turkish newspaper Sabah, but they have yet to release it.
A Turkish source told the New York Times that Tubaigy was equipped with a bone saw.
This guy died a painful death tho!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Liv wrote:Religion of peace indeed.
This was politics, not religion. Unless you are trying to provoke @Alphadoti.
I guess the US is in a dillema, go one way and the price of oil goes off the roof, with catastrophic global consequences, go the other and flush your moral authority down the toilet. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Liv wrote:Liv wrote:mkenyan wrote:AlphDoti wrote:sparkly wrote:FundamentAli wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Tokyo wrote:AlphDoti wrote:An assassination inside a building that would beat a trail into a government that owns it... this sounds fishy to me, i smell a rat, someone is being setup! And won would do the setup: you know is expert in invading other countries through setup reasons
 You might be joking. All intelligence including from allies indicates the guy was slaughtered alive.
The way they slaughter domestic workers.
Apparently his watch was not just a watch. It is made of the stuff you see in spy movies. It was recording and transmitting the commotion. Both US and Turkey are in a dilemma. Thanks Canada for standing up to these brutes
The watch-phone source is fake. Turkey have wire taps inside the Saudi consulate. That is how they got the recording.
This is the more likely possibility. Or another theory would be, the voices are created, a propaganda to drive the focus in direction they want...
don't you ever get tired of these propaganda crap you keep on dragging from thread to thread? is this really normal?
Please understand him... according to him, all devotees and leaders of his religion cannot harm people or shed innocent blood and anything that would suggest that can only be propaganda or some conspiracy somewhere...but never the truth.
Religion of peace indeed.
@mkenya and @Liv are bringing religion into this, and when I counter those shallow, irrelevant posts, you cry foul?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Liv wrote:Religion of peace indeed.
This was politics, not religion. Unless you are trying to provoke @Alphadoti.
I guess the US is in a dilemma, go one way and the price of oil goes off the roof, with catastrophic global consequences, go the other and flush your moral authority down the toilet.
Thank you @obi for putting that in [perspective... They always bring up the excuses and when I correct them, they cry!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Liv wrote:Religion of peace indeed.
This was politics, not religion. Unless you are trying to provoke @Alphadoti.
I guess the US is in a dillema, go one way and the price of oil goes off the roof, with catastrophic global consequences, go the other and flush your moral authority down the toilet.
How can you separate religion and politics in saudi?
Why would Alphadoti bring issues of propaganda in a political assignation of a country he doesn't belong to? And whose politics he is not involved or interested in?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Liv wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Liv wrote:Religion of peace indeed.
This was politics, not religion. Unless you are trying to provoke @Alphadoti.
I guess the US is in a dillema, go one way and the price of oil goes off the roof, with catastrophic global consequences, go the other and flush your moral authority down the toilet.
How can you separate religion and politics in saudi?
Why would Alphadoti bring issues of propaganda in a political assignation of a country he doesn't belong to? And whose politics he is not involved or interested in?
I don't know where @Alphadoti's interests lie, but I do believe their is some geopolitical tensions between Turkey, Qatar and allies on one side and Saudi, UAE and allies on the other that is playing out in the ME. I don't know what the background is.
So Turkey is not necessarily some neutral sympathetic arbiter outting Saudi Arabia for Khashogi's to get justice, they have their own political motives.
I am hoping here that @Alphadoti's reference to propaganda referred to Turkey (a Muslim nation) and not some Western nation or media or source "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Mbona anaitwa kashogi? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:Mbona anaitwa kashogi?
By the way, there was a tycoon in Kenya back then called Kashogi who was very close to Moi... (for those who are young enough to remember...)
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Liv wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Liv wrote:Religion of peace indeed.
This was politics, not religion. Unless you are trying to provoke @Alphadoti.
I guess the US is in a dillema, go one way and the price of oil goes off the roof, with catastrophic global consequences, go the other and flush your moral authority down the toilet.
How can you separate religion and politics in saudi?
Why would Alphadoti bring issues of propaganda in a political assignation of a country he doesn't belong to? And whose politics he is not involved or interested in?
I don't know where @Alphadoti's interests lie, but I do believe their is some geopolitical tensions between Turkey, Qatar and allies on one side and Saudi, UAE and allies on the other that is playing out in the ME. I don't know what the background is.
So Turkey is not necessarily some neutral sympathetic arbiter outting Saudi Arabia for Khashogi's to get justice, they have their own political motives.
I am hoping here that @Alphadoti's reference to propaganda referred to Turkey (a Muslim nation) and not some Western nation or media or source
I see your point with regard to geopolitical interests.... But alphadoti is always quick to bring up "propaganda" and conspiracies to explain anything that would blame defenders or leaders of the Islam religion when calamity has been committed ...even where these are indefensible.
Why would he want to defend Saudi against Turkey? What does saudi represent with regard to Islam?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,723
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2012 wrote:Swenani wrote:Mbona anaitwa kashogi?
By the way, there was a tycoon in Kenya back then called Kashogi who was very close to Moi... (for those who are young enough to remember...)
He was a Saudi Arabian billionaire arms dealer. His name was Adnan Khashoggi and he had a ranch huko Laikipia. His sister was the mother of Dodi AL Fayed, yule jamaa alikuwa na Princess Diana when they both died.
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