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Seefar Apartments...Langata!
hardwood
#21 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 11:47:56 AM
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I am surprised if the apartments don't flood during the rains coz they are downstream across the dam.


hardwood
#22 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 11:50:33 AM
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Flash back..


2012
#23 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 11:54:08 AM
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hardwood wrote:
I am surprised if the apartments don't flood during the rains coz they are downstream across the dam.




Some tenant said the ground floor floods completely in an interview yesterday.

BBI will solve it
:)
hardwood
#24 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 11:57:44 AM
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So they moved the river waititu style.



Tokyo
#25 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 2:23:06 PM
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In China we execute with a single bullet between the ear and eye in an isolated bushy farmland all those who were responsible in allocating, licensing and approving such buildings.
The juicy important point is what has the โ€œshitholeโ€ done to the responsible persons
work to prosper
murchr
#26 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 11:29:39 PM
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2012 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
I am surprised if the apartments don't flood during the rains coz they are downstream across the dam.




Some tenant said the ground floor floods completely in an interview yesterday.


Tenants or home owners?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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maka
#27 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 1:42:27 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Flash back..





Walipea Weston pia..

KCB according to confidential documents we have, granted the hotel with three loans, the first two of Sh150 million and Sh350 million on October 27 2014 with the documents being processed and signed by a land registrar Carolyn Kituyi who is among individuals charged recently at anti-corruption court in Milimani over the SGR land in Embakasi for authorising payments amounting to Sh314 million to individuals with fake land documents for the SGR.
Another Sh700 million was given to the hotel on July 21 2015 by Kenya Commercial Bank through the authorisation of a land registrar Sarah Chelimo Maina who appended her signature on the documentthat made it easy for the bank to release the funds to the hotel which now has a contest with KCAA.
The value of the hotel is over Sh600m
possunt quia posse videntur
Mike Ock
#28 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 9:23:03 AM
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This riparian land thing is just one big extortion scheme. Someone in Nairobi government has discovered a new revenue stream for eating and has set high targets
Lolest!
#29 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 9:37:31 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
this riparian process is too selective, you will find that some of those who saw no issue when the malls were being brought down, now have an issue when the demolition notice is given to them.

If the government is serious they should just go after all, even if the national museum is on riparian land demolish all, if not wacha kupatia watu stress, the process has a lot of bias on what is demolished or not.

My observation exactly! Yes we feel for the individuals, but to see hypocrisy in Wazuans whom are supposed were in support of mall demolitions is wonders of the world!

It's a class issue. When it's middle class mortgage takers we feel sorry

When it's some rich Mhindi, we feel zero. We get racist even
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Mtu Biz
#30 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 10:14:02 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
this riparian process is too selective, you will find that some of those who saw no issue when the malls were being brought down, now have an issue when the demolition notice is given to them.

If the government is serious they should just go after all, even if the national museum is on riparian land demolish all, if not wacha kupatia watu stress, the process has a lot of bias on what is demolished or not.

My observation exactly! Yes we feel for the individuals, but to see hypocrisy in Wazuans whom are supposed were in support of mall demolitions is wonders of the world!

It's a class issue. When it's middle class mortgage takers we feel sorry

When it's some rich Mhindi, we feel zero. We get racist even


Hapo umegonga ndipo.
Sola Scriptura


AlphDoti
#31 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 12:46:57 PM
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Mtu Biz wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
this riparian process is too selective, you will find that some of those who saw no issue when the malls were being brought down, now have an issue when the demolition notice is given to them.

If the government is serious they should just go after all, even if the national museum is on riparian land demolish all, if not wacha kupatia watu stress, the process has a lot of bias on what is demolished or not.

My observation exactly! Yes we feel for the individuals, but to see hypocrisy in Wazuans whom are supposed were in support of mall demolitions is wonders of the world!

It's a class issue. When it's middle class mortgage takers we feel sorry

When it's some rich Mhindi, we feel zero. We get racist even

Hapo umegonga ndipo.

@lonest, you have explained it well!
Wakanyugi
#32 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 12:55:51 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
this riparian process is too selective, you will find that some of those who saw no issue when the malls were being brought down, now have an issue when the demolition notice is given to them.

If the government is serious they should just go after all, even if the national museum is on riparian land demolish all, if not wacha kupatia watu stress, the process has a lot of bias on what is demolished or not.

My observation exactly! Yes we feel for the individuals, but to see hypocrisy in Wazuans whom are supposed were in support of mall demolitions is wonders of the world!

It's a class issue. When it's middle class mortgage takers we feel sorry

When it's some rich Mhindi, we feel zero. We get racist even


HOW DARE YOU TELL US THE TRUTH LIKE THIS, Nkt!!

Don't you know this Ghenya?


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Intelligentsia
#33 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 1:13:24 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
If on mortgage and charge is title to the apartment if you default what would the financial institution do?


Proper lending practice recognizes that security is just insurance in case you don't pay.
The fact that the security is gone does not mean your ability to repay is also gone - those are 2 different mutually exclusive manenos.
Si bado unaenda job? Si bado unatwanga biz and getting some mullah? Unless the biz was located at the affected premises.

So Banks will still come after you to pay if you default; for starters, utaingizwa CRB.

And given you signed a personal guarantee, all your other assets plus the kienyeji kuku you are keeping for the coming Xmas festivities can be sold off to pay off the outstanding bank debt.

If someone else had guaranteed your debt, the bank will come for them with the same gusto and the courts ruled recently that even the guarantor can now be listed on CRB if they don't pay off a debt they have guaranteed.

Guarantor assets can be similarly sold.

If you have no further assets of value, and you have the means, then the bank can apply to have you committed to civil jail for willingly failing to pay off its debt.
Angelica _ann
#34 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 1:19:43 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
If on mortgage and charge is title to the apartment if you default what would the financial institution do?


Proper lending practice recognizes that security is just insurance in case you don't pay.
The fact that the security is gone does not mean your ability to repay is also gone - those are 2 different mutually exclusive manenos.
Si bado unaenda job? Si bado unatwanga biz and getting some mullah? Unless the biz was located at the affected premises.

So Banks will still come after you to pay if you default; for starters, utaingizwa CRB.

And given you signed a personal guarantee, all your other assets plus the kienyeji kuku you are keeping for the coming Xmas festivities can be sold off to pay off the outstanding bank debt.

If someone else had guaranteed your debt, the bank will come for them with the same gusto and the courts ruled recently that even the guarantor can now be listed on CRB if they don't pay off a debt they have guaranteed.

Guarantor assets can be similarly sold.

If you have no further assets of value, and you have the means, then the bank can apply to have you committed to civil jail for willingly failing to pay off its debt.


Thanks for this feedback. Let me stay in the village where everything is cash cash cash smile smile smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
mkenyan
#35 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 3:11:37 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
If on mortgage and charge is title to the apartment if you default what would the financial institution do?


Proper lending practice recognizes that security is just insurance in case you don't pay.
The fact that the security is gone does not mean your ability to repay is also gone - those are 2 different mutually exclusive manenos.
Si bado unaenda job? Si bado unatwanga biz and getting some mullah? Unless the biz was located at the affected premises.

So Banks will still come after you to pay if you default; for starters, utaingizwa CRB.

And given you signed a personal guarantee, all your other assets plus the kienyeji kuku you are keeping for the coming Xmas festivities can be sold off to pay off the outstanding bank debt.

If someone else had guaranteed your debt, the bank will come for them with the same gusto and the courts ruled recently that even the guarantor can now be listed on CRB if they don't pay off a debt they have guaranteed.

Guarantor assets can be similarly sold.

If you have no further assets of value, and you have the means, then the bank can apply to have you committed to civil jail for willingly failing to pay off its debt.

they aren't allowed to sell personal stuff like your chicken. anyways, the best way out of it is apply for bankruptcy, re-arrange your debt, pay only a small part of it, discharge the bankruptcy and you are home dry.
Siringi
#36 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 6:07:20 PM
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A guy says the foundation sank severally during construction
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hardwood
#37 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 7:26:30 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
If on mortgage and charge is title to the apartment if you default what would the financial institution do?


Proper lending practice recognizes that security is just insurance in case you don't pay.
The fact that the security is gone does not mean your ability to repay is also gone - those are 2 different mutually exclusive manenos.
Si bado unaenda job? Si bado unatwanga biz and getting some mullah? Unless the biz was located at the affected premises.

So Banks will still come after you to pay if you default; for starters, utaingizwa CRB.

And given you signed a personal guarantee, all your other assets plus the kienyeji kuku you are keeping for the coming Xmas festivities can be sold off to pay off the outstanding bank debt.

If someone else had guaranteed your debt, the bank will come for them with the same gusto and the courts ruled recently that even the guarantor can now be listed on CRB if they don't pay off a debt they have guaranteed.

Guarantor assets can be similarly sold.

If you have no further assets of value, and you have the means, then the bank can apply to have you committed to civil jail for willingly failing to pay off its debt.

they aren't allowed to sell personal stuff like your chicken. anyways, the best way out of it is apply for bankruptcy, re-arrange your debt, pay only a small part of it, discharge the bankruptcy and you are home dry.


Employment contracts, govt and private sector, have a clause where the employee confirms that he does not suffer pecuniary embarrassment. In other words you are not bankrupt. So if you were to file for bankruptcy it means you are FIRED, or rather you have just fired yourselefu.
murchr
#38 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 8:29:32 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1
#39 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2018 6:13:01 AM
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Kenyans are very funny people.

It seems that the only people in the world who didn't know that the land was grabbed are the fools who bought the properties.

I'm waiting for the ones in Nyayo Highrise to also pretend they didn't know their land was grabbed.

Watu warudishe mashamba za serekali.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

mkenyan
#40 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2018 6:48:23 AM
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alma1 wrote:
Kenyans are very funny people.

It seems that the only people in the world who didn't know that the land was grabbed are the fools who bought the properties.

I'm waiting for the ones in Nyayo Highrise to also pretend they didn't know their land was grabbed.

Watu warudishe mashamba za serekali.

nyayo highrise is on grabbed land?
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