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tycho
#1 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2018 2:13:59 PM
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If the stories are true, why was the method for elimination used instead of another?

Why is Turkey keen on the matter?

Are there common themes in this murder to Monica's or Sharon's deaths?

Please wazua sleuths, help!
Kusadikika
#2 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2018 2:43:30 PM
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The intention of the Saudis is shared by many governments across the world. They just have sloppy execution.

The Russians and North Koreans are more slick.

https://www.gq.com/story...ccidental-assassination

https://en.wikipedia.org..._of_Alexander_Litvinenko
tycho
#3 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2018 6:18:42 PM
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It wasn't a botched operation.

Everything went on just as planned. If you think about it, how far can the game go? As long as a body can't be produced then it's a complicated legal process that most countries and organizations will have to back down from.

And someone will have a firm grip on power.
Angelica _ann
#4 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2018 6:21:17 PM
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Made me be scared for John kabisa.
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tycho
#5 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2018 7:20:31 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Made me be scared for John kabisa.


John may be safe for now. His biggest loss may be compensated akirudi kwa kanisa.

The person you should be scared for is probably 'yourself'. That's if you're a pawn in some game.
Kusadikika
#6 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2018 12:26:43 AM
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tycho wrote:
It wasn't a botched operation.

Everything went on just as planned. If you think about it, how far can the game go? As long as a body can't be produced then it's a complicated legal process that most countries and organizations will have to back down from.

And someone will have a firm grip on power.


It was sloppy in that there is CCTV footage showing him entering the Consulate and not leaving. The other sloppy part is asking staff to take the day off. So even if the body is not found his whereabouts at the time of his disappearance can be traced directly to the Saudis.

Contrast this with the North Koreans. They made their plans so elaborately that in all the official documentation they are untouchable. A guy died at the airport of a heart attack. It is alleged he was poisoned. Those who may have poisoned him were clearly captured on CCTV. They were apprehended and are being tried. None of them is from North Korea or has any connection to North Korea. One of them is from Indonesia, the other is from Vietnam. A judge has ruled there is sufficient evidence to prosecute them. The North Koreans got the body back through official channels.

If the worst came to the worst those North Korean operatives allegedly mentioned could just be killed if they have not already been killed and records could show that they were dangerous criminals who had committed multiple crimes in North Korea. Alternatively they could just disappear from all known official records and no one could prove that they even ever existed.

Young Kim is the ultimate Supreme leader. The message to his enemies at home is absolutely clear; Do not mess with me, I can get you anywhere in the world and still go shake hands with Donald Trump and Xi Jinping.
2012
#7 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2018 7:57:14 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
tycho wrote:
It wasn't a botched operation.

Everything went on just as planned. If you think about it, how far can the game go? As long as a body can't be produced then it's a complicated legal process that most countries and organizations will have to back down from.

And someone will have a firm grip on power.


It was sloppy in that there is CCTV footage showing him entering the Consulate and not leaving. The other sloppy part is asking staff to take the day off. So even if the body is not found his whereabouts at the time of his disappearance can be traced directly to the Saudis.

Contrast this with the North Koreans. They made their plans so elaborately that in all the official documentation they are untouchable. A guy died at the airport of a heart attack. It is alleged he was poisoned. Those who may have poisoned him were clearly captured on CCTV. They were apprehended and are being tried. None of them is from North Korea or has any connection to North Korea. One of them is from Indonesia, the other is from Vietnam. A judge has ruled there is sufficient evidence to prosecute them. The North Koreans got the body back through official channels.

If the worst came to the worst those North Korean operatives allegedly mentioned could just be killed if they have not already been killed and records could show that they were dangerous criminals who had committed multiple crimes in North Korea. Alternatively they could just disappear from all known official records and no one could prove that they even ever existed.

Young Kim is the ultimate Supreme leader. The message to his enemies at home is absolutely clear; Do not mess with me, I can get you anywhere in the world and still go shake hands with Donald Trump and Xi Jinping.


I don't know if they were sloppy or they just don't care and the crown prince is sending a message. How do you murder a person on not so friendly territory and expect to cover it up?

BBI will solve it
:)
AlphDoti
#8 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 6:34:19 AM
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An assassination inside a building that would beat a trail into a government that owns it... this sounds fishy to me, i smell a rat, someone is being setup! And won would do the setup: you know is expert in invading other countries through setup reasons
Tokyo
#9 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 12:03:07 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
An assassination inside a building that would beat a trail into a government that owns it... this sounds fishy to me, i smell a rat, someone is being setup! And won would do the setup: you know is expert in invading other countries through setup reasons


Laughing out loudly You might be joking. All intelligence including from allies indicates the guy was slaughtered alive.
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Angelica _ann
#10 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 12:09:05 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
An assassination inside a building that would beat a trail into a government that owns it... this sounds fishy to me, i smell a rat, someone is being setup! And won would do the setup: you know is expert in invading other countries through setup reasons


Laughing out loudly You might be joking. All intelligence including from allies indicates the guy was slaughtered alive.


The way they slaughter domestic workers. Sad Sad Sad
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