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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
rwitre
#2991 Posted : Monday, October 01, 2018 10:38:23 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
mnandii wrote:


Safcom continues to fall and is now threatening 21.60, being the top of wave ((i)) circled. Looking at the chart keenly I realize that safcom likely completed wave 5 at 33.54. This implies that the current fall has further to go and will likely find support at 21.69 or about 16.20.

I once warned people to be careful with Safcom. Many will burn their fingers with this counter. Forget about the financial position of the company. That does not determine its share price.


Let it come to 16.20 i buy more
Now that's an attractive entry point. In my case, to add more.
Despite the competition, I find the "pie" can grow much larger for all the players. I continue using Faiba4G for data but Safcom still gets my money for other uses.


Considering SCOM's weight in the market, if it dares go that low, the amount of bloodshed on the other counters will be massive. Wengine tuko mlango ya ICU tunachungulia ndani Pray Pray

Meanwhile, Safaricom is going into home security, leveraging on the growing fibre network. Huge scaling potential there. Currently piloting at Ngei Estate, Lang'ata.
obiero
#2992 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2018 6:32:37 AM
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mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:


I expect Safcom to continue dropping in circle wave ((iv)) and find support at about 25.00. Thereafter it should rise in wave circled wave ((v)) to above 33.00.


25.00 level reached today 20th September. I expect a bounce to above 33.00 level to complete circled wave ((v)). If the drop continues any further down below 25.00 then it should not touch 21.70 (being the circled wave (((i))) high). NB: Elliott's rule states that a fourth wave should not overlap the wave one.


It's dropping too hard and fast

mnandii
#2993 Posted : Wednesday, October 03, 2018 6:37:22 AM
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The Point is this: Religion ISN'T the CAUSE for moral bankruptcy. Though moral bankruptcy and religiousness tends to occur concurrently, the reason WHY that is so is because of something that we all share called Mass Psychology. Mass Psychology is responsible for people buying shares or selling, fashion trends, going to war or making peace etc. When Mass Psychology is trending positive then people buy shares(resulting is share price increase), they use Science and reason, they are generally happier, there's peace and Accord. When Mass Psychology trends negative then people start using magical thinking rather than reason and science, they sell shares(resulting in bear markets), they tend to be more religious (hence Ndii's observation), there's conflict resulting in wars, women tend to wear clothes that cover almost whole body(rather than in positive psychology where they tend to wear miniskirts) and many other social actions. So at David Ndii is correct in his observation that religiousness and moral bankruptcy occur simultaneously but he has failed to make the correct link for the CAUSE. For more go to www.socionomics.net.
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mnandii
#2994 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2018 11:53:35 PM
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mnandii wrote:


Safcom continues to fall and is now threatening 21.60, being the top of wave ((i)) circled. Looking at the chart keenly I realize that safcom likely completed wave 5 at 33.54. This implies that the current fall has further to go and will likely find support at 21.69 or about 16.20.

I once warned people to be careful with Safcom. Many will burn their fingers with this counter. Forget about the financial position of the company. That does not determine its share price.

Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mnandii
#2995 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2018 12:41:55 AM
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There is no mistaking it now. Safaricom is in for a major bear market. The move below 24.00 was especially telling since it confirmed that the bullish zigzag pattern that we had assumed was developing from the 33.50s level is no longer tenable(i.e the zigzag was supposed to have ended at 24.00 level and Safcom was to then rise to above 33.50s).

As it stands now, Safaricom is dropping in an impulse wave pattern from the 33.50s high(I'll post a chart to show the subdivisions of this impulse wave A ).

Targets for the end of wave A are 21.69(being the Fibonacci 38.2% retracement of the whole impulse wave rise from about 2.50 (i.e start of public trading in Safcom shares) to the 33.50s high) and 18.03(being 50% retracement) and a more likely target of 16.20s. This 16.20s target is very likely since Elliott tells us that if wave five in an impulse wave is extended(i.e showing elaborate subdivisions and is elongated as our wave 5 is in this case) then we should expect a swift retracement that finds suppoort at the second wave of the extension(that being 16.20, the end of circled wave ((ii)))

NB: Wave 5 starts at 12.70s (the end of wave 4) and ends at 33.50s and is composed of circled waves ((i)) to ((v)).

In the fullness of time I expect Safaricom to fall as shown in the pattern depicted by the lines labelled as A B and C on the extreme right of the graph. I.E SAn initial impulse wave drop(which is currently underway) to complete wave A, a modest upward retracement to complete wave B then a final fall that goes downward beyond the end of wave A to complete wave C. If this scenario proves correct then Safaricom should eventually find support at about 14.00s (being the Fibonacci 61.8% retracement OR at 9.17(being the Fibonacci 78.6% retracement of the whole rise from 2.50s to 33.50s.

It is important to note that as Safaricom continues to fall so will the profitability of the company.

In Elliott Wave Corrective formations a scenario where Safaricom price rise above 33.50s before the conclusion of the bear market is entirely possible but so far evidence is heavily tilted on the side of the scenario I have painted above. If however the current falling wave A turns out to be three waves instead of the expected five waves then we should expect a rise of wave B to to go slightly above 33.50s.

SUMMARY:
safaricom is falling in wave A of a major bear market whose target is about 16.20s. Once wave A completes then wave B will rise countertrend to retrace a small portion of wave A. Once wave B completes at a level somewhere significantly below 33.50s then wave C will ensue and will drop further below the end of wave A to a likely target of about 9.17 (being the Fibonacci 78.6% retracement of the whole Safaricom Share price rise from the 2.50s level).
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mnandii
#2996 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2018 1:01:20 AM
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SAFARICOM
Subdivisions of the falling wave A that is currently underway. Note that circled waves ((i)) and ((ii)) are complete. Circled wave ((iii)) is currently in progress. Once wave ((iii)) completes then waves ((iv)) and ((v)) will ensue likely as depicted by the trendlines. The target for wave ((iii)) is at 19.50s(being a Fibonacci 1.618 multiple of wave ((i)).
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mnandii
#2997 Posted: : Saturday, October 13, 2018 1:49:00 AM
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FIBONACCI AND THE SAFARICOM COUNTER:

After nudging from Charles Collins, R.N. Elliott researched and came to the conclusion that the Golden Ratio(Fibonacci) is the basis of the Wave Principle. I can count at least three instances where Fibonacci mathematics apply as regards the Safaricom Share Price:

a)



Wave 3, at about 18.00 is Fibonacci 4.236 X wave 1. Wave 1 starts at 2.50 and ends at about 6.10 thus
wave 1 = (6.10 - 2.50) = 3.60

The end of wave 2 is 2.80
Therefore, (3.60 X 4.236) = 15.25
Adding 15.25 + 2.80 = 18.05 (which happens to be the end of wave 3)

b) Wave 4 retraced approximately Fibonacci 38.2% of wave 3 (This is a common tendency and is named a guideline according to Elliott literature).

c)



Wave 1 through to wave 3 is the same size as wave 5 if wave 5 is counted from the start of wave 4 (18.00). Thus the Elliott guideline that waves one through to wave three usually form a golden ratio with wave five.
Figuratively,
Wave 1 through 3 = (18.00 - 2.50) = 15.50
And wave 5 = (33.50 - 18.00)= 15.50

ETC
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Angelica _ann
#2998 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:35:27 PM
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Mr. Elliott's wave don't u out think this is shifting the goalpost after knowing the direction the share price is taking?
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VituVingiSana
#2999 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 2:11:03 AM
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@mnandii said "It is important to note that as Safaricom continues to fall so will the profitability of the company."
Why would the profitability of Safcom (the business) trend the fall in the price of the shares?

On a fundamental basis, I understand why the (potential) DECREASE in profits could lead to a lower share price BUT I do not understand why profits would follow a decrease in the share price.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#3000 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 2:22:10 AM
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@mnandii wrote:
"Safaricom is falling in wave A of a major bear market whose target is about 16.20s. Once wave A completes then wave B will rise countertrend to retrace a small portion of wave A. Once wave B completes at a level somewhere significantly below 33.50s then wave C will ensue and will drop further below the end of wave A to a likely target of about 9.17 (being the Fibonacci 78.6% retracement of the whole Safaricom Share price rise from the 2.50s level)."

This I would like to see especially the fall to 9.17 as long as the fundamentals do not change.
Are you saying the tail (share price) is wagging the dog (business/profits/cashflow)?

I am also a pragmatist i.e. most businesses/firms face challenges in the very long-term due to technology, tastes, politics, etc. Schumpeter.
Nokia
Motorola
GE
Apple1
Microsoft (had a challenging period not so long ago)
GM/Ford/Chrysler
KK (almost died under Segman)

The darlings in Kenya once upon a time:
ARM
KQ
BBK/SCBK
Marshalls
BOC
KenGen
NBK
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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