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BBC wrote:Baby mice have been made with two mums and no dad, say researchers at the Chinese Academy of Sciences.
It took a substantial feat of genetic engineering to break the rules of reproduction.
The scientists said the "bimaternal" (two mammas) animals were healthy and went on to have pups of their own.
But there was bad news on the all-male front. Mice with double-dads were attempted, but died within days of being born.
Why even try?
The researchers were trying to answer fundamental questions about why we have sex.
Mammals, including us, can make babies only through sexual reproduction - aka you need an egg from mum and a sperm from dad.
But the rest of the natural world doesn't play by the same rules; some female fish, reptiles, amphibians and birds can go it alone.
Welcome to the bizarre world of virgin births known officially as parthenogenesis. As someone said, this world is a petri dish "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Traditionally, God has been a God of science, and humans, being of His breath are like God.
But that humans will stop needing each other then implies a post human world. In this case I'd say 'sub-optimal post human world'. Probability of it happening is quite slim.
We can imagine that the beings in such a scenario would depend on each other in a different way from now. And by 'different from now' I mean, now we depend on each other for being, and sustaining this being.
If we depended on each other for something other than being, what would we depend on each other for?
What if the universe is a network of beings in a singularity? If it is, then we'd have a backlash from the universe itself!
The beauty about science and these technologies is that they serve to remind us of who we are.
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tycho wrote:Traditionally, God has been a God of science, and humans, being of His breath are like God.
But that humans will stop needing each other then implies a post human world. In this case I'd say 'sub-optimal post human world'. Probability of it happening is quite slim.
We can imagine that the beings in such a scenario would depend on each other in a different way from now. And by 'different from now' I mean, now we depend on each other for being, and sustaining this being.
If we depended on each other for something other than being, what would we depend on each other for?
What if the universe is a network of beings in a singularity? If it is, then we'd have a backlash from the universe itself!
The beauty about science and these technologies is that they serve to remind us of who we are. Can't agree more I care!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Not true. The day women stop needing men is the day men stop needing women and that is naturally impossible.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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2012 wrote:Not true. The day women stop needing men is the day men stop needing women and that is naturally impossible. True women and men are not only attracted to each other for reproduction, there is companionship,, warmth, cuddling, sill talk, biting, arguing fighting etc we need each other with men needing women a little bit more. To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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kayhara wrote:2012 wrote:Not true. The day women stop needing men is the day men stop needing women and that is naturally impossible. True women and men are not only attracted to each other for reproduction, there is companionship,, warmth, cuddling, sill talk, biting, arguing fighting etc we need each other with men needing women a little bit more. Women can do fine without men in as much as companionship is concerned. Men too "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:kayhara wrote:2012 wrote:Not true. The day women stop needing men is the day men stop needing women and that is naturally impossible. True women and men are not only attracted to each other for reproduction, there is companionship,, warmth, cuddling, sill talk, biting, arguing fighting etc we need each other with men needing women a little bit more. Women can do fine without men in as much as companionship is concerned. Men too You may enjoy reading Philip Wylie's 'The disappearance'...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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And where will the women get money from, other women???  "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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This is not happening any time soon. Maybe the other way round: men not need for women. Because some get cold feet and finds many excuses not to hook up with a woman.
But as for women, even if she is frigid, a woman would not mind getting a man, she would hook up a man, even if it is just for shelter and protection (read maintenance or money for case of prostitutes). She can just lie there and she need not do anything at all!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Normal women will always need men. It's an innate need to be loved by men, its part of their being just like normal men will always need relationship and sex. Saying women don't need men or men don't need women is just a temporary reaction until the right one comes. Then breaks your heart and then you go back to the same rhetoric.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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2012 wrote:Normal women will always need men. It's an innate need to be loved by men, its part of their being just like normal men will always need relationship and sex. Saying women don't need men or men don't need women is just a temporary reaction until the right one comes. Then breaks your heart and then you go back to the same rhetoric. The need for, is mainly driven by what is derived from the man or woman. Followed by heart manenos... No love grows without first woman assessing whether this man will maintain her life or not... Even while trying to win the heart, ability must be demonstrated i.e. treating her etc etc... The man that comes with nothing is unlikely to win any heart. mkono mtupu haulambwi! So, always it is about what is it for me... and that will always be there, hence women will always need men.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:2012 wrote:Normal women will always need men. It's an innate need to be loved by men, its part of their being just like normal men will always need relationship and sex. Saying women don't need men or men don't need women is just a temporary reaction until the right one comes. Then breaks your heart and then you go back to the same rhetoric. The need for, is mainly driven by what is derived from the man or woman. Followed by heart manenos... No love grows without first woman assessing whether this man will maintain her life or not... Even while trying to win the heart, ability must be demonstrated i.e. treating her etc etc... The man that comes with nothing is unlikely to win any heart. mkono mtupu haulambwi! So, always it is about what is it for me... and that will always be there, hence women will always need men. I don't agree. The ones you are talking about are gold diggers and slay queens. If a woman has fallen for you, she has fallen! Logic goes away. Just look around and you'll find that couples who hook up because of money, don't last. Women fall in love hopelessly and most of those relationships work out while many also get disappointed as they realize that the man was never on the same page
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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2012 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:2012 wrote:Normal women will always need men. It's an innate need to be loved by men, its part of their being just like normal men will always need relationship and sex. Saying women don't need men or men don't need women is just a temporary reaction until the right one comes. Then breaks your heart and then you go back to the same rhetoric. The need for, is mainly driven by what is derived from the man or woman. Followed by heart manenos... No love grows without first woman assessing whether this man will maintain her life or not... Even while trying to win the heart, ability must be demonstrated i.e. treating her etc etc... The man that comes with nothing is unlikely to win any heart. mkono mtupu haulambwi! So, always it is about what is it for me... and that will always be there, hence women will always need men. I don't agree. The ones you are talking about are gold diggers and slay queens. If a woman has fallen for you, she has fallen! Logic goes away. Just look around and you'll find that couples who hook up because of money, don't last. Women fall in love hopelessly and most of those relationships work out while many also get disappointed as they realize that the man was never on the same page They fall in love with you because they see the potential in you to be able to provide them security (this is big word)...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:2012 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:2012 wrote:Normal women will always need men. It's an innate need to be loved by men, its part of their being just like normal men will always need relationship and sex. Saying women don't need men or men don't need women is just a temporary reaction until the right one comes. Then breaks your heart and then you go back to the same rhetoric. The need for, is mainly driven by what is derived from the man or woman. Followed by heart manenos... No love grows without first woman assessing whether this man will maintain her life or not... Even while trying to win the heart, ability must be demonstrated i.e. treating her etc etc... The man that comes with nothing is unlikely to win any heart. mkono mtupu haulambwi! So, always it is about what is it for me... and that will always be there, hence women will always need men. I don't agree. The ones you are talking about are gold diggers and slay queens. If a woman has fallen for you, she has fallen! Logic goes away. Just look around and you'll find that couples who hook up because of money, don't last. Women fall in love hopelessly and most of those relationships work out while many also get disappointed as they realize that the man was never on the same page They fall in love with you because they see the potential in you to be able to provide them security (this is big word)... It's emotional security not physical. Physical security they have the money to get and in this day and age of guns, who can really provide security? Even cops are under threat.
BBI will solve it :)
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