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SGR Progress thus far
2012
#1291 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 8:50:37 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
Conquestador wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.





Cargo to or from port?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly isn't it rather obvious?

BBI will solve it
:)
cd04
#1292 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 9:25:20 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 2/10/2007
Posts: 13
FundamentAli wrote:
hardwood wrote:
How come we couldn't maintain our railway (and stations) which was constructed later than most rail in europe.


The reason ours is not as good is because while they were busy upgrading, they found a place to damp the removed materials which were obsolete in 1905


This is our fundamental problem. We always blame them/outsiders for all our problems. We are never in a position of power, it is always something that they (someone else) did to us, and we are powerless to stop it. We have to accept we are the problem, and consequently, we have the power to change or fix the problem.

Yani, it does not even occur to us to be thankful that someone was kind enough to build us a railway in 1905. Yet we are quick to blame them for not maintaining it after we fought for independence and attained it. We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard than this.
Gathige
#1293 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 11:24:37 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/29/2011
Posts: 2,242
cd04 wrote:
FundamentAli wrote:
hardwood wrote:
How come we couldn't maintain our railway (and stations) which was constructed later than most rail in europe.


The reason ours is not as good is because while they were busy upgrading, they found a place to damp the removed materials which were obsolete in 1905


This is our fundamental problem. We always blame them/outsiders for all our problems. We are never in a position of power, it is always something that they (someone else) did to us, and we are powerless to stop it. We have to accept we are the problem, and consequently, we have the power to change or fix the problem.

Yani, it does not even occur to us to be thankful that someone was kind enough to build us a railway in 1905. Yet we are quick to blame them for not maintaining it after we fought for independence and attained it. We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard than this.


Maintenance is a very recent concept among former hunters & gatherers and pastoralists. Such people were always on the move and had no interest in maintaining their abode as they were temporal. Agriculturalists were a bit much more organized as they settled in one place and farmed around it.

This is why you will find people sweeping their houses and throwing the garbage outside their gate, or someone driving a V8 along a highway, sipping Dasani water and their lowering the window and throwing the empty bottle on the road, and then claining how dirty our towns are.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
obiero
#1294 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 3:05:17 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,252
Location: nairobi
cd04 wrote:
FundamentAli wrote:
hardwood wrote:
How come we couldn't maintain our railway (and stations) which was constructed later than most rail in europe.


The reason ours is not as good is because while they were busy upgrading, they found a place to damp the removed materials which were obsolete in 1905


This is our fundamental problem. We always blame them/outsiders for all our problems. We are never in a position of power, it is always something that they (someone else) did to us, and we are powerless to stop it. We have to accept we are the problem, and consequently, we have the power to change or fix the problem.

Yani, it does not even occur to us to be thankful that someone was kind enough to build us a railway in 1905. Yet we are quick to blame them for not maintaining it after we fought for independence and attained it. We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard than this.

Well said

obiero
#1295 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 3:06:53 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,252
Location: nairobi
2012 wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.





Cargo to or from port?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly isn't it rather obvious?

Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi

hardwood
#1296 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:30:09 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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hardwood
#1297 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:33:04 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
obiero wrote:
2012 wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.





Cargo to or from port?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly isn't it rather obvious?

Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi


It's both ways. Lots of tea, coffee, tobacco, macadamia, avocado, hides and skins, powdered milk, garments from EPZ, pyrethrum etc heading to mombasa for export.
hardwood
#1298 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:47:30 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
hardwood
#1299 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:07:52 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
2012 wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.





Cargo to or from port?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly isn't it rather obvious?

Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi


It's both ways. Lots of tea, coffee, tobacco, macadamia, avocado, hides and skins, powdered milk, garments from EPZ, pyrethrum etc heading to mombasa for export.


Each train ferrying the equivalent of 140 x 20ft containers. That is same as having 70 trucks on the road. With 7 cargo trains per day that is 490 trucks off the road each day leading to safer roads and less wear and tear of the roads saving billions for wanjiku.
freiks
#1300 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 4:30:36 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/8/2010
Posts: 1,734
hardwood wrote:
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
2012 wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.





Cargo to or from port?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly isn't it rather obvious?

Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi


It's both ways. Lots of tea, coffee, tobacco, macadamia, avocado, hides and skins, powdered milk, garments from EPZ, pyrethrum etc heading to mombasa for export.


Each train ferrying the equivalent of 140 x 20ft containers. That is same as having 70 trucks on the road. With 7 cargo trains per day that is 490 trucks off the road each day leading to safer roads and less wear and tear of the roads saving billions for wanjiku.


since the launch of SGR curiously accidents have reduced between Nairobi and Msa, still alot of accidents towards western Kenya
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