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Centum Full Year results 2017/2018
Ericsson
#71 Posted : Wednesday, October 03, 2018 7:43:26 PM
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https://www.businessdail...89624-mwuaoy/index.html
Lamu coal plant hits snag as court reinstates stop orders

The fate of the Sh200 billion Lamu coal fired power plant now hangs in the balance following a recent move by the High Court sitting in Nairobi to reinstate all the stop orders concerning the establishment of the project.

The project under the Amu Power Company, a consortium of Gulf Energy and Centum Investment is set to be established at Kwasasi Village in Hindi Division in Lamu West.

vvs I leave this for you
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Angelica _ann
#72 Posted : Wednesday, October 03, 2018 7:50:33 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/counties/4003142-4789624-mwuaoy/index.html
Lamu coal plant hits snag as court reinstates stop orders

The fate of the Sh200 billion Lamu coal fired power plant now hangs in the balance following a recent move by the High Court sitting in Nairobi to reinstate all the stop orders concerning the establishment of the project.

The project under the Amu Power Company, a consortium of Gulf Energy and Centum Investment is set to be established at Kwasasi Village in Hindi Division in Lamu West.

vvs I leave this for you


Poor Centum, Mr. Fix it missing now this. Only attractive thing about this share is Vipingo land.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
VituVingiSana
#73 Posted : Wednesday, October 03, 2018 8:29:37 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/counties/4003142-4789624-mwuaoy/index.html
Lamu coal plant hits snag as court reinstates stop orders

The fate of the Sh200 billion Lamu coal fired power plant now hangs in the balance following a recent move by the High Court sitting in Nairobi to reinstate all the stop orders concerning the establishment of the project.

The project under the Amu Power Company, a consortium of Gulf Energy and Centum Investment is set to be established at Kwasasi Village in Hindi Division in Lamu West.

vvs I leave this for you

Thank you. Don't stress. You win some, lose some projects.
Even WB doesn't win in each deal.

Current Price: 28.50 [bought a few with the Stanbic dividend]
NAV at March 2018: 73/-
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#74 Posted : Wednesday, October 03, 2018 8:32:36 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/counties/4003142-4789624-mwuaoy/index.html
Lamu coal plant hits snag as court reinstates stop orders

The fate of the Sh200 billion Lamu coal fired power plant now hangs in the balance following a recent move by the High Court sitting in Nairobi to reinstate all the stop orders concerning the establishment of the project.

The project under the Amu Power Company, a consortium of Gulf Energy and Centum Investment is set to be established at Kwasasi Village in Hindi Division in Lamu West.

vvs I leave this for you


Poor Centum, Mr. Fix it missing now this. Only attractive thing about this share is Vipingo land.

So is there no value to Almasi, Nairobi Bottlers, Two Rivers (the unsold land), GM?

How did you come to this conclusion?
I am happy to hear your thoughts/analysis.

Thank you.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#75 Posted : Wednesday, October 03, 2018 11:03:51 PM
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Martin J. Whitman is another well-regarded value investor. His approach is called safe-and-cheap, which was hitherto referred to as financial-integrity approach. Martin Whitman focuses on acquiring common shares of companies with extremely strong financial position at a price reflecting meaningful discount to the estimated NAV of the company concerned.

Buying Price 28.50
NAV (31st Mar 2018) 73.00
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VituVingiSana
#76 Posted : Thursday, October 04, 2018 10:35:45 PM
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Safaricom Investment Coop is selling 1/8 acre residential plots for 895k. Ad in Nation.
That's approx 7mn/acre.

2015: In the deal, Centum will acquire a total of 9,646 acres of land in Vipingo at a price of Sh180,000 per acre as well as take Rea Vipingo’s subsidiary, Vipingo Estates Limited which owns approximately 900 acres of land, at a price of approximately Sh340 million.
https://www.capitalfm.co...ve-land-sale-to-centum/

Not exactly an apples to apples comparisons but 7mn x 10,000 acres = 70,000,000,000 (Seventy Billion) less a 30% discount for roads, public spaces, infrastructure (serviced plots), etc = 50bn
50bn less sales cost, additional financing costs, etc = ????
http://vipingodevelopment.com

Centum breaks ground for Sh100 billion industrial park
Read more at: https://www.standardmedi...lion-new-gem-in-vipingo
Dubbed Vipingo Investment Park, the project is offering interested investors 1,150 acres of serviced plots for manufacturing, warehousing, logistics and commercial developments at between Sh18 million and Sh20 million per acre.

...to develop a residential estate, Vipingo Awali Estate, which will be part of the planned 200-acre Vipingo Lifestyle City. “We are also looking into the affordable housing segment. We will have the the Ridge Homes that will see the development of 1,200 units consisting of one-, two-, and three-bedroom apartments going for less than Sh4 million per unit,” Centum said in a statement.

It's important to note that this is LONG-TERM PROJECT and will require a lot more planning and execution...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#77 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2018 12:31:47 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Safaricom Investment Coop is selling 1/8 acre residential plots for 895k. Ad in Nation.
That's approx 7mn/acre.

2015: In the deal, Centum will acquire a total of 9,646 acres of land in Vipingo at a price of Sh180,000 per acre as well as take Rea Vipingo’s subsidiary, Vipingo Estates Limited which owns approximately 900 acres of land, at a price of approximately Sh340 million.
https://www.capitalfm.co...ve-land-sale-to-centum/

Not exactly an apples to apples comparisons but 7mn x 10,000 acres = 70,000,000,000 (Seventy Billion) less a 30% discount for roads, public spaces, infrastructure (serviced plots), etc = 50bn
50bn less sales cost, additional financing costs, etc = ????
http://vipingodevelopment.com

Centum breaks ground for Sh100 billion industrial park
Read more at: https://www.standardmedi...lion-new-gem-in-vipingo
Dubbed Vipingo Investment Park, the project is offering interested investors 1,150 acres of serviced plots for manufacturing, warehousing, logistics and commercial developments at between Sh18 million and Sh20 million per acre.

...to develop a residential estate, Vipingo Awali Estate, which will be part of the planned 200-acre Vipingo Lifestyle City. “We are also looking into the affordable housing segment. We will have the the Ridge Homes that will see the development of 1,200 units consisting of one-, two-, and three-bedroom apartments going for less than Sh4 million per unit,” Centum said in a statement.

It's important to note that this is LONG-TERM PROJECT and will require a lot more planning and execution...


If companies were to be valued using land east africa portland Cement will be the richest in the NSE
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#78 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2018 3:25:57 AM
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Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Safaricom Investment Coop is selling 1/8 acre residential plots for 895k. Ad in Nation.
That's approx 7mn/acre.

2015: In the deal, Centum will acquire a total of 9,646 acres of land in Vipingo at a price of Sh180,000 per acre as well as take Rea Vipingo’s subsidiary, Vipingo Estates Limited which owns approximately 900 acres of land, at a price of approximately Sh340 million.
https://www.capitalfm.co...ve-land-sale-to-centum/

Not exactly an apples to apples comparisons but 7mn x 10,000 acres = 70,000,000,000 (Seventy Billion) less a 30% discount for roads, public spaces, infrastructure (serviced plots), etc = 50bn
50bn less sales cost, additional financing costs, etc = ????
http://vipingodevelopment.com

Centum breaks ground for Sh100 billion industrial park
Read more at: https://www.standardmedi...lion-new-gem-in-vipingo
Dubbed Vipingo Investment Park, the project is offering interested investors 1,150 acres of serviced plots for manufacturing, warehousing, logistics and commercial developments at between Sh18 million and Sh20 million per acre.

...to develop a residential estate, Vipingo Awali Estate, which will be part of the planned 200-acre Vipingo Lifestyle City. “We are also looking into the affordable housing segment. We will have the the Ridge Homes that will see the development of 1,200 units consisting of one-, two-, and three-bedroom apartments going for less than Sh4 million per unit,” Centum said in a statement.

It's important to note that this is LONG-TERM PROJECT and will require a lot more planning and execution...


If companies were to be valued using land east africa portland Cement will be the richest in the NSE
Is EAPCC allowed to sell the land without drama?
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Ericsson
#79 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2018 8:20:25 AM
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Centum has now turned to a land buying company from a blue chip one.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
watesh
#80 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2018 9:21:50 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Centum has now turned to a land buying company from a blue chip one.

Land is good to get those paper gains they like but a nightmare when it comes to cashflow.
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