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SHARES versus REAL ESTATE
Fundaah
#21 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:05:04 PM
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mukiha
#22 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:15:51 PM
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It's one thing to buy a piece of land, sit on it and do nothing and then sell it later at a "profit"; It is a different story to buy the plot, put some development and sell it at a profit.

The first case is going round in circles; It is old-school thinking

The second is doing real work; it's what Trump does. It is also what the new Real-Estate barons are doing.

The only problem with Real estate is that it needs a huge capital investment up-front. Share on the other hand can be accumulated in small chunks over time - you can even invest less than 5k at a time.
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My 2 cents
#23 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:29:36 PM
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mukiha wrote:
It's one thing to buy a piece of land, sit on it and do nothing and then sell it later at a "profit"; It is a different story to buy the plot, put some development and sell it at a profit.

The first case is going round in circles; It is old-school thinking

The second is doing real work; it's what Trump does. It is also what the new Real-Estate barons are doing.

The only problem with Real estate is that it needs a huge capital investment up-front. Shares on the other hand can be accumulated in small chunks over time - you can even invest less than 5k at a time.

One positive for real estate is that one can employ leverage substantially i.e. many banks would lend you substantial amounts to develop real estate. Shares on the other hand, well unless you take the unsecured personal loans or the limited loans offered on IPO purchases....

Whether debt (yes even debt for investment)is a good thing is a debate for another day
Wendz
#24 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:46:17 PM
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In my view, 60-40 in favor for real estate would do for me. It is true that stocks are good and are pretty liquid, but real estate is more predictable and more certain than shares..... tell an Uchumi shareholder to put all the money in shares - well, i know you will say there is hope in diversification but it does highlights the magnitude of something going bad....

Shares ride alot on market confidence, which is very volatile and sensitive and you have no control over.

With real estate, it has the advantage of leverage too as someone has said.

I would say, buy property when you are young - you may not afford them when you grow old.

Invest in shares when you are mid years and develop your properties....

In old age, play with shares full time because that you can do anywhere in the world as you play golf!
VituVingiSana
#25 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:37:41 PM
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@wendz - Ask a Kikuyu farmer (I did not bringing tribes into this but the reality in Kenya has to be faced for the moment) about land in RV & he might respond to you 'Never Again'...

Leverage - You can do so in stocks as well... I am NOT advocating leverage just saying... If you were GOOD or LUCKY...
U could have bought Equity at 16 (6 months ago) & now it is 24/-... so a 50% return on borrowed money...

Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
kenstat
#26 Posted : Friday, June 18, 2010 6:37:38 AM
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Wendz wrote:

In old age, play with shares full time because that you can do anywhere in the world as you play golf!



Hmmmmm....Ask all the baby boomers who had allocated 100% of their assets in stocks over the last two years, this can be risky and push your retirement a couple of years!

Diversification (bonds/property)to less volatile assets will ensure your nest egg is not tanked in an over correction of the market. You won't have enough time to recover (Not YOU personally, just older wanainchi in general).
My 2 cents
#27 Posted : Friday, June 18, 2010 10:02:11 AM
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[quote=Fundaah]Also see:


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Fundaah, did you ever get back into the stock market? Or once burnt twice shy?
wanyina
#28 Posted : Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:06:26 AM
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Real estate ofcourse
50% real estate, shares 30%, 10%bonds
10 cash
the deal
#29 Posted : Sunday, June 20, 2010 7:31:12 PM
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AGE is the determining factor here e.g if u r 77 yrs old subtract that from 100 which is equal to 33 so if u r 77 u should put 33% in stocks and 77% in real estate but if u r young and strong like me u can put 100% in stocks(i'm yet to earn my 1st pay cheaque)...
youcan'tstopusnow
#30 Posted : Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:15:54 PM
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deal, going by your formula, shouldn't you be putting 75% into stocks? (assuming you are no more than 25 years)
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