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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,262 Location: nairobi
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Alba wrote:hamburglar wrote:That world record was absolutely astonishing but I think he made a blunder. I think he should have broken it by just a few seconds then keep lowering it every year for like the next 6-7 years because I honestly believe barring injuries (knock on wood) he is capable of being in top form for at least another 6 more years. 6 consecutive WR’s would have made him perhaps the greatest athlete of our time. Plus the bonus money for breaking the record every year wouldn’t have been too shady either and the anticipation and excitement year after year going into the race would be off the charts. The whole world would be tuning in to watch the historic event every year. I think he should have shaved off like 10 seconds or so for starters and then about 15 seconds every year after that.
But then again, what do I know, this man seems invincible and might just take this already ridiculous record further down into the 2:00s next year. I can’t put it past him after that phenomenal performance on Sunday. Next year’s race will be very appetizing.
Oh. And GoK, give this man a handsome cheque. Deposit 100m into his bank account, he deserves it. Kipchoge is 33 now. I guess you think he can keep running at this level until he is 40. Highly unlikely. He is at an age now where injuries will start to pile up. And Most marathon runners rarely stay at the same level once they break a record. It takes a lot out of you. Kipchoge did well to break the record by such a margin. He put the record so far out of reach that it will be years before someone breaks it. In the meantime since he is the record holder, the can command massive appearance fees for each race. Its a good True @Alba. Its like getting some. When you get a chance you take it! No one knows about tomorrow COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Alba wrote:hamburglar wrote:That world record was absolutely astonishing but I think he made a blunder. I think he should have broken it by just a few seconds then keep lowering it every year for like the next 6-7 years because I honestly believe barring injuries (knock on wood) he is capable of being in top form for at least another 6 more years. 6 consecutive WR’s would have made him perhaps the greatest athlete of our time. Plus the bonus money for breaking the record every year wouldn’t have been too shady either and the anticipation and excitement year after year going into the race would be off the charts. The whole world would be tuning in to watch the historic event every year. I think he should have shaved off like 10 seconds or so for starters and then about 15 seconds every year after that.
But then again, what do I know, this man seems invincible and might just take this already ridiculous record further down into the 2:00s next year. I can’t put it past him after that phenomenal performance on Sunday. Next year’s race will be very appetizing.
Oh. And GoK, give this man a handsome cheque. Deposit 100m into his bank account, he deserves it. Kipchoge is 33 now. I guess you think he can keep running at this level until he is 40. Highly unlikely. He is at an age now where injuries will start to pile up. And Most marathon runners rarely stay at the same level once they break a record. It takes a lot out of you. Kipchoge did well to break the record by such a margin. He put the record so far out of reach that it will be years before someone breaks it. In the meantime since he is the record holder, the can command massive appearance fees for each race. Its a good You are definitely right. We never know about tomorrow. Mine was just overzealous wishful thinking. That’s the scenario that I would love to see but like you said, it’s never guaranteed. It would be super awesome though if he could lower that record for the next 5-6 years in a row. Plus it would make him the absolute GOAT by a very wide margin and also a very rich man to boot. People love seeing history being made in sports and that kind of history year after year would be really really mouth watering for fans as well as very lucrative for race organizers and the atheletes themselves.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,721
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hamburglar wrote:Alba wrote:hamburglar wrote:That world record was absolutely astonishing but I think he made a blunder. I think he should have broken it by just a few seconds then keep lowering it every year for like the next 6-7 years because I honestly believe barring injuries (knock on wood) he is capable of being in top form for at least another 6 more years. 6 consecutive WR’s would have made him perhaps the greatest athlete of our time. Plus the bonus money for breaking the record every year wouldn’t have been too shady either and the anticipation and excitement year after year going into the race would be off the charts. The whole world would be tuning in to watch the historic event every year. I think he should have shaved off like 10 seconds or so for starters and then about 15 seconds every year after that.
But then again, what do I know, this man seems invincible and might just take this already ridiculous record further down into the 2:00s next year. I can’t put it past him after that phenomenal performance on Sunday. Next year’s race will be very appetizing.
Oh. And GoK, give this man a handsome cheque. Deposit 100m into his bank account, he deserves it. Kipchoge is 33 now. I guess you think he can keep running at this level until he is 40. Highly unlikely. He is at an age now where injuries will start to pile up. And Most marathon runners rarely stay at the same level once they break a record. It takes a lot out of you. Kipchoge did well to break the record by such a margin. He put the record so far out of reach that it will be years before someone breaks it. In the meantime since he is the record holder, the can command massive appearance fees for each race. Its a good You are definitely right. We never know about tomorrow. Mine was just overzealous wishful thinking. That’s the scenario that I would love to see but like you said, it’s never guaranteed. It would be super awesome though if he could lower that record for the next 5-6 years in a row. Plus it would make him the absolute GOAT by a very wide margin and also a very rich man to boot. People love seeing history being made in sports and that kind of history year after year would be really really mouth watering for fans as well as very lucrative for race organizers and the atheletes themselves. Hamburglar that is not a bad strategy if you can pull it off. There is actually a guy called Sergey Bubka who did it in pole vault for 10 years straight. He used to break his own record pole pole (slowly) every year for 10 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Bubka
The problem with marathon is that the outcome is not in your control like in pole vault. You can be very prepared but the weather is bad or your pace setters are slow etc.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Kusadikika wrote:hamburglar wrote:Alba wrote:hamburglar wrote:That world record was absolutely astonishing but I think he made a blunder. I think he should have broken it by just a few seconds then keep lowering it every year for like the next 6-7 years because I honestly believe barring injuries (knock on wood) he is capable of being in top form for at least another 6 more years. 6 consecutive WR’s would have made him perhaps the greatest athlete of our time. Plus the bonus money for breaking the record every year wouldn’t have been too shady either and the anticipation and excitement year after year going into the race would be off the charts. The whole world would be tuning in to watch the historic event every year. I think he should have shaved off like 10 seconds or so for starters and then about 15 seconds every year after that.
But then again, what do I know, this man seems invincible and might just take this already ridiculous record further down into the 2:00s next year. I can’t put it past him after that phenomenal performance on Sunday. Next year’s race will be very appetizing.
Oh. And GoK, give this man a handsome cheque. Deposit 100m into his bank account, he deserves it. Kipchoge is 33 now. I guess you think he can keep running at this level until he is 40. Highly unlikely. He is at an age now where injuries will start to pile up. And Most marathon runners rarely stay at the same level once they break a record. It takes a lot out of you. Kipchoge did well to break the record by such a margin. He put the record so far out of reach that it will be years before someone breaks it. In the meantime since he is the record holder, the can command massive appearance fees for each race. Its a good You are definitely right. We never know about tomorrow. Mine was just overzealous wishful thinking. That’s the scenario that I would love to see but like you said, it’s never guaranteed. It would be super awesome though if he could lower that record for the next 5-6 years in a row. Plus it would make him the absolute GOAT by a very wide margin and also a very rich man to boot. People love seeing history being made in sports and that kind of history year after year would be really really mouth watering for fans as well as very lucrative for race organizers and the atheletes themselves. Hamburglar that is not a bad strategy if you can pull it off. There is actually a guy called Sergey Bubka who did it in pole vault for 10 years straight. He used to break his own record pole pole (slowly) every year for 10 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Bubka
The problem with marathon is that the outcome is not in your control like in pole vault. You can be very prepared but the weather is bad or your pace setters are slow etc. Absolutely. Track and field fans will fondly remember Sergei Bubka’s exploits in the pole vault. The guy used to compete against himself for the better part of a decade or so. Lavellanie would have been the new Bubka but while he’s been winning regularly for the last 10 years, his wins don’t ever come with WR’s. If Eliud Kipchoge ever somehow runs under 2:00, he will officially be Jesus.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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masukuma wrote:Alba wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote: watu are obsessed with money, from what I have heard about the guy he is a humble guy, works very hard and I doubt if money is a motivation for him. Pesa huisha, he seems to enjoy what he does. All Kenyan marathoners are motivated by money. If money was not the motivating factor, Kenyans would be pretty useless at marathons. Its impossible to train for marathons for so many years if money was not the key motivator. These people run 80 miles a week, run up and down hills, do sprint intervals like 4 X 200m. By the time the training session is over, they are basically vomiting. Anyway city marathons only became lucrative some time around the late 1980s to early 1990s. Prior to that, Kenya was a non factor in the marathons. In fact Kenya was so poor at the marathon that sometimes they did not bother participating at the worlds or the Olympics. As I recall, the first half decent marathoner was Joseph Nzau then came Wakihuri, then Ibrahim Hussein and then the floodgates opened. Exactly! As soon as athletes started making money and building huge houses mashambani - children of poor parents started thinking..hmmm... you mean I can run and change my life in a few years? And to work they went.. generation after generation. If you want to know - look at their responses when they were asked to pay taxes on trophy money. And I think it's fine and OK to be driven/motivated by money rather than some amorphous thing like patriotism. Keyword is Than... of course the best case is when you have both! But if it happens that you are to lack one of the two...let that one be patriotism... at least until you can reach to a level where you can forego income. I agree money plays a part, and it should no doubt about that. I think I am just too romantic with the love of what one does, blame it on all those funny business boos that tell me to have a passion of what I do and money will follow Sometimes if money is the main factor once you get the first big batch of the same the interest and zeal ind of drops off, and I am sure Eliud is not a poor man, I am sure that nike project that he works for pays decently, but anywhos, he only knows what motivates him, I just thought seeing him it has to do more with something else not money.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Alba wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote: watu are obsessed with money, from what I have heard about the guy he is a humble guy, works very hard and I doubt if money is a motivation for him. Pesa huisha, he seems to enjoy what he does. All Kenyan marathoners are motivated by money. If money was not the motivating factor, Kenyans would be pretty useless at marathons. Its impossible to train for marathons for so many years if money was not the key motivator. These people run 80 miles a week, run up and down hills, do sprint intervals like 4 X 200m. By the time the training session is over, they are basically vomiting. Anyway city marathons only became lucrative some time around the late 1980s to early 1990s. Prior to that, Kenya was a non factor in the marathons. In fact Kenya was so poor at the marathon that sometimes they did not bother participating at the worlds or the Olympics. As I recall, the first half decent marathoner was Joseph Nzau then came Wakihuri, then Ibrahim Hussein and then the floodgates opened. I don't know if I entirely agree with that statement. There's talent for marathon in Kenya. An American or even a Nigerian would do it for money too but they can't beat Kenyans. 100M, 200M etc, NBA, NFL, Football, Baseball, Boxing, F1, music etc. are all about money too. Let's not put our people down and give them credit where it's due despite the big pay days or motives. Money is a motivator.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:Alba wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote: watu are obsessed with money, from what I have heard about the guy he is a humble guy, works very hard and I doubt if money is a motivation for him. Pesa huisha, he seems to enjoy what he does. All Kenyan marathoners are motivated by money. If money was not the motivating factor, Kenyans would be pretty useless at marathons. Its impossible to train for marathons for so many years if money was not the key motivator. These people run 80 miles a week, run up and down hills, do sprint intervals like 4 X 200m. By the time the training session is over, they are basically vomiting. Anyway city marathons only became lucrative some time around the late 1980s to early 1990s. Prior to that, Kenya was a non factor in the marathons. In fact Kenya was so poor at the marathon that sometimes they did not bother participating at the worlds or the Olympics. As I recall, the first half decent marathoner was Joseph Nzau then came Wakihuri, then Ibrahim Hussein and then the floodgates opened. I don't know if I entirely agree with that statement. There's talent for marathon in Kenya. An American or even a Nigerian would do it for money too but they can't beat Kenyans. 100M, 200M etc, NBA, NFL, Football, Baseball, Boxing, F1, music etc. are all about money too. Let's not put our people down and give them credit where it's due despite the big pay days or motives. Money is a motivator. why do people take it as being negative when someone says "you are motivated by money"? I have never really understood that mentality - BEING MOTIVATED BY MONEY IS A GOOD THING, IT'S A POSITIVE THING!! I AM MOTIVATED TO WORK FIRST BY MONEY THEN PATRIOTISM/GOOD/[INSERT SOME VIRTUE HERE] SECOND. If we had more of that as a country we would be in a much better place. Kila mwamba ngoma ngozi huvuta pande yake. They figured out just how to make money from what they can do well - let them! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:Alba wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote: watu are obsessed with money, from what I have heard about the guy he is a humble guy, works very hard and I doubt if money is a motivation for him. Pesa huisha, he seems to enjoy what he does. All Kenyan marathoners are motivated by money. If money was not the motivating factor, Kenyans would be pretty useless at marathons. Its impossible to train for marathons for so many years if money was not the key motivator. These people run 80 miles a week, run up and down hills, do sprint intervals like 4 X 200m. By the time the training session is over, they are basically vomiting. Anyway city marathons only became lucrative some time around the late 1980s to early 1990s. Prior to that, Kenya was a non factor in the marathons. In fact Kenya was so poor at the marathon that sometimes they did not bother participating at the worlds or the Olympics. As I recall, the first half decent marathoner was Joseph Nzau then came Wakihuri, then Ibrahim Hussein and then the floodgates opened. I don't know if I entirely agree with that statement. There's talent for marathon in Kenya. An American or even a Nigerian would do it for money too but they can't beat Kenyans. 100M, 200M etc, NBA, NFL, Football, Baseball, Boxing, F1, music etc. are all about money too. Let's not put our people down and give them credit where it's due despite the big pay days or motives. Money is a motivator. why do people take it as being negative when someone says "you are motivated by money"? I have never really understood that mentality - BEING MOTIVATED BY MONEY IS A GOOD THING, IT'S A POSITIVE THING!! I AM MOTIVATED TO WORK FIRST BY MONEY THEN PATRIOTISM/GOOD/[INSERT SOME VIRTUE HERE] SECOND. If we had more of that as a country we would be in a much better place. Kila mwamba ngoma ngozi huvuta pande yake. They figured out just how to make money from what they can do well - let them! 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:Alba wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote: watu are obsessed with money, from what I have heard about the guy he is a humble guy, works very hard and I doubt if money is a motivation for him. Pesa huisha, he seems to enjoy what he does. All Kenyan marathoners are motivated by money. If money was not the motivating factor, Kenyans would be pretty useless at marathons. Its impossible to train for marathons for so many years if money was not the key motivator. These people run 80 miles a week, run up and down hills, do sprint intervals like 4 X 200m. By the time the training session is over, they are basically vomiting. Anyway city marathons only became lucrative some time around the late 1980s to early 1990s. Prior to that, Kenya was a non factor in the marathons. In fact Kenya was so poor at the marathon that sometimes they did not bother participating at the worlds or the Olympics. As I recall, the first half decent marathoner was Joseph Nzau then came Wakihuri, then Ibrahim Hussein and then the floodgates opened. I don't know if I entirely agree with that statement. There's talent for marathon in Kenya. An American or even a Nigerian would do it for money too but they can't beat Kenyans. 100M, 200M etc, NBA, NFL, Football, Baseball, Boxing, F1, music etc. are all about money too. Let's not put our people down and give them credit where it's due despite the big pay days or motives. Money is a motivator. why do people take it as being negative when someone says "you are motivated by money"? I have never really understood that mentality - BEING MOTIVATED BY MONEY IS A GOOD THING, IT'S A POSITIVE THING!! I AM MOTIVATED TO WORK FIRST BY MONEY THEN PATRIOTISM/GOOD/[INSERT SOME VIRTUE HERE] SECOND. If we had more of that as a country we would be in a much better place. Kila mwamba ngoma ngozi huvuta pande yake. They figured out just how to make money from what they can do well - let them! Its not bad to be motivated by money, everyone has their own motivations in life. Even hapa wazua there are guys who are motivated by money and they spend a lot of time say studying shares and stuff, but also on wazua there are guys I think who do charity work educating kids their motivation is also different. Its not a bad thing, just stating that I thought eliud was not motivated by money, just an opinion, not that it makes you a lesser being if your motivation in life is money, its a good thing also.
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