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SGR Progress thus far
Gathige
#1281 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:15:41 PM
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hardwood wrote:
And this is the reli Ndii wanted us to upgrade instead of building the sgr....











It was a great idea to have the SGR very very far away from slums.
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Fullykenyan
#1282 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:21:34 PM
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Gathige wrote:
hardwood wrote:
And this is the reli Ndii wanted us to upgrade instead of building the sgr....











It was a great idea to have the SGR very very far away from slums.


Ndii is just full of himself. He thinks of himself as the finest thing since sliced bread.

essyk
#1283 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 12:03:49 AM
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That thing is rusted but still moving.smh
Pardon my ignorance.
Do we still have a train going to Kisumu from nbo?
Any reason why sgr can't operate at night?
Say 10.00pm to arrive MBA/NBO at 5.00am.
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MugundaMan
#1284 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:50:05 AM
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Tanzania SGR seems not as nice. Seems it was built on grade (class 2) like the Ethiopian one and the civil works and general appearance of it are a bit wanting IMHO.

MugundaMan
#1285 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:52:15 AM
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essyk wrote:
That thing is rusted but still moving.smh
Pardon my ignorance.
Do we still have a train going to Kisumu from nbo?
Any reason why sgr can't operate at night?
Say 10.00pm to arrive MBA/NBO at 5.00am.


Long dead. Cancelled back in 2012.
Impunity
#1286 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:33:31 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:
Tanzania SGR seems not as nice. Seems it was built on grade (class 2) like the Ethiopian one and the civil works and general appearance of it are a bit wanting IMHO.





Bora train inasonga na mwendo aka BORA UHAI.
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MugundaMan
#1287 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:41:43 AM
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Impunity wrote:

Bora train inasonga na mwendo aka BORA UHAI.


Na hiyo treni ikidireli na watu wakufe kama kuku utasemajesmile ? On grade may also be washed away by floods killing more people in its wake!
hardwood
#1288 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2018 6:15:57 PM
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Aboard Chinese SGR in China.


hardwood
#1289 Posted : Saturday, October 06, 2018 3:08:11 PM
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Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.



Conquestador
#1290 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 7:24:53 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.





Cargo to or from port?
2012
#1291 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 8:50:37 AM
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Conquestador wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.





Cargo to or from port?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly isn't it rather obvious?

BBI will solve it
:)
cd04
#1292 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 9:25:20 AM
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FundamentAli wrote:
hardwood wrote:
How come we couldn't maintain our railway (and stations) which was constructed later than most rail in europe.


The reason ours is not as good is because while they were busy upgrading, they found a place to damp the removed materials which were obsolete in 1905


This is our fundamental problem. We always blame them/outsiders for all our problems. We are never in a position of power, it is always something that they (someone else) did to us, and we are powerless to stop it. We have to accept we are the problem, and consequently, we have the power to change or fix the problem.

Yani, it does not even occur to us to be thankful that someone was kind enough to build us a railway in 1905. Yet we are quick to blame them for not maintaining it after we fought for independence and attained it. We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard than this.
Gathige
#1293 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 11:24:37 AM
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cd04 wrote:
FundamentAli wrote:
hardwood wrote:
How come we couldn't maintain our railway (and stations) which was constructed later than most rail in europe.


The reason ours is not as good is because while they were busy upgrading, they found a place to damp the removed materials which were obsolete in 1905


This is our fundamental problem. We always blame them/outsiders for all our problems. We are never in a position of power, it is always something that they (someone else) did to us, and we are powerless to stop it. We have to accept we are the problem, and consequently, we have the power to change or fix the problem.

Yani, it does not even occur to us to be thankful that someone was kind enough to build us a railway in 1905. Yet we are quick to blame them for not maintaining it after we fought for independence and attained it. We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard than this.


Maintenance is a very recent concept among former hunters & gatherers and pastoralists. Such people were always on the move and had no interest in maintaining their abode as they were temporal. Agriculturalists were a bit much more organized as they settled in one place and farmed around it.

This is why you will find people sweeping their houses and throwing the garbage outside their gate, or someone driving a V8 along a highway, sipping Dasani water and their lowering the window and throwing the empty bottle on the road, and then claining how dirty our towns are.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
obiero
#1294 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 3:05:17 PM
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cd04 wrote:
FundamentAli wrote:
hardwood wrote:
How come we couldn't maintain our railway (and stations) which was constructed later than most rail in europe.


The reason ours is not as good is because while they were busy upgrading, they found a place to damp the removed materials which were obsolete in 1905


This is our fundamental problem. We always blame them/outsiders for all our problems. We are never in a position of power, it is always something that they (someone else) did to us, and we are powerless to stop it. We have to accept we are the problem, and consequently, we have the power to change or fix the problem.

Yani, it does not even occur to us to be thankful that someone was kind enough to build us a railway in 1905. Yet we are quick to blame them for not maintaining it after we fought for independence and attained it. We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard than this.

Well said

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#1295 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 3:06:53 PM
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2012 wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.





Cargo to or from port?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly isn't it rather obvious?

Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
hardwood
#1296 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:30:09 PM
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hardwood
#1297 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:33:04 PM
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obiero wrote:
2012 wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.





Cargo to or from port?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly isn't it rather obvious?

Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi


It's both ways. Lots of tea, coffee, tobacco, macadamia, avocado, hides and skins, powdered milk, garments from EPZ, pyrethrum etc heading to mombasa for export.
hardwood
#1298 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:47:30 PM
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hardwood
#1299 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:07:52 PM
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hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
2012 wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.





Cargo to or from port?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly isn't it rather obvious?

Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi


It's both ways. Lots of tea, coffee, tobacco, macadamia, avocado, hides and skins, powdered milk, garments from EPZ, pyrethrum etc heading to mombasa for export.


Each train ferrying the equivalent of 140 x 20ft containers. That is same as having 70 trucks on the road. With 7 cargo trains per day that is 490 trucks off the road each day leading to safer roads and less wear and tear of the roads saving billions for wanjiku.
freiks
#1300 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 4:30:36 PM
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hardwood wrote:
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
2012 wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains.





Cargo to or from port?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly isn't it rather obvious?

Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi


It's both ways. Lots of tea, coffee, tobacco, macadamia, avocado, hides and skins, powdered milk, garments from EPZ, pyrethrum etc heading to mombasa for export.


Each train ferrying the equivalent of 140 x 20ft containers. That is same as having 70 trucks on the road. With 7 cargo trains per day that is 490 trucks off the road each day leading to safer roads and less wear and tear of the roads saving billions for wanjiku.


since the launch of SGR curiously accidents have reduced between Nairobi and Msa, still alot of accidents towards western Kenya
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