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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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It was a great idea to have the SGR very very far away from slums. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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Gathige wrote:It was a great idea to have the SGR very very far away from slums. Ndii is just full of himself. He thinks of himself as the finest thing since sliced bread.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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That thing is rusted but still moving.smh Pardon my ignorance. Do we still have a train going to Kisumu from nbo? Any reason why sgr can't operate at night? Say 10.00pm to arrive MBA/NBO at 5.00am. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Tanzania SGR seems not as nice. Seems it was built on grade (class 2) like the Ethiopian one and the civil works and general appearance of it are a bit wanting IMHO.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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essyk wrote:That thing is rusted but still moving.smh
Pardon my ignorance.
Do we still have a train going to Kisumu from nbo?
Any reason why sgr can't operate at night?
Say 10.00pm to arrive MBA/NBO at 5.00am. Long dead. Cancelled back in 2012.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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MugundaMan wrote:Tanzania SGR seems not as nice. Seems it was built on grade (class 2) like the Ethiopian one and the civil works and general appearance of it are a bit wanting IMHO. Bora train inasonga na mwendo aka BORA UHAI. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Impunity wrote:
Bora train inasonga na mwendo aka BORA UHAI.
Na hiyo treni ikidireli na watu wakufe kama kuku utasemaje  ? On grade may also be washed away by floods killing more people in its wake!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains. 
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/17/2010 Posts: 110 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains. Cargo to or from port?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Conquestador wrote:hardwood wrote:Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains. Cargo to or from port?  isn't it rather obvious?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 13
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FundamentAli wrote:hardwood wrote:How come we couldn't maintain our railway (and stations) which was constructed later than most rail in europe. The reason ours is not as good is because while they were busy upgrading, they found a place to damp the removed materials which were obsolete in 1905 This is our fundamental problem. We always blame them/outsiders for all our problems. We are never in a position of power, it is always something that they (someone else) did to us, and we are powerless to stop it. We have to accept we are the problem, and consequently, we have the power to change or fix the problem. Yani, it does not even occur to us to be thankful that someone was kind enough to build us a railway in 1905. Yet we are quick to blame them for not maintaining it after we fought for independence and attained it. We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard than this.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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cd04 wrote:FundamentAli wrote:hardwood wrote:How come we couldn't maintain our railway (and stations) which was constructed later than most rail in europe. The reason ours is not as good is because while they were busy upgrading, they found a place to damp the removed materials which were obsolete in 1905 This is our fundamental problem. We always blame them/outsiders for all our problems. We are never in a position of power, it is always something that they (someone else) did to us, and we are powerless to stop it. We have to accept we are the problem, and consequently, we have the power to change or fix the problem. Yani, it does not even occur to us to be thankful that someone was kind enough to build us a railway in 1905. Yet we are quick to blame them for not maintaining it after we fought for independence and attained it. We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard than this. Maintenance is a very recent concept among former hunters & gatherers and pastoralists. Such people were always on the move and had no interest in maintaining their abode as they were temporal. Agriculturalists were a bit much more organized as they settled in one place and farmed around it. This is why you will find people sweeping their houses and throwing the garbage outside their gate, or someone driving a V8 along a highway, sipping Dasani water and their lowering the window and throwing the empty bottle on the road, and then claining how dirty our towns are. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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cd04 wrote:FundamentAli wrote:hardwood wrote:How come we couldn't maintain our railway (and stations) which was constructed later than most rail in europe. The reason ours is not as good is because while they were busy upgrading, they found a place to damp the removed materials which were obsolete in 1905 This is our fundamental problem. We always blame them/outsiders for all our problems. We are never in a position of power, it is always something that they (someone else) did to us, and we are powerless to stop it. We have to accept we are the problem, and consequently, we have the power to change or fix the problem. Yani, it does not even occur to us to be thankful that someone was kind enough to build us a railway in 1905. Yet we are quick to blame them for not maintaining it after we fought for independence and attained it. We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard than this. Well said
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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2012 wrote:Conquestador wrote:hardwood wrote:Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains. Cargo to or from port? isn't it rather obvious? Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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obiero wrote:2012 wrote:Conquestador wrote:hardwood wrote:Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains. Cargo to or from port? isn't it rather obvious? Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi It's both ways. Lots of tea, coffee, tobacco, macadamia, avocado, hides and skins, powdered milk, garments from EPZ, pyrethrum etc heading to mombasa for export.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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hardwood wrote:obiero wrote:2012 wrote:Conquestador wrote:hardwood wrote:Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains. Cargo to or from port? isn't it rather obvious? Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi It's both ways. Lots of tea, coffee, tobacco, macadamia, avocado, hides and skins, powdered milk, garments from EPZ, pyrethrum etc heading to mombasa for export. Each train ferrying the equivalent of 140 x 20ft containers. That is same as having 70 trucks on the road. With 7 cargo trains per day that is 490 trucks off the road each day leading to safer roads and less wear and tear of the roads saving billions for wanjiku.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,729
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hardwood wrote:hardwood wrote:obiero wrote:2012 wrote:Conquestador wrote:hardwood wrote:Maendeleo. We now have double stacked cargo trains. Cargo to or from port? isn't it rather obvious? Of course it's from the port headed to ICD Nairobi It's both ways. Lots of tea, coffee, tobacco, macadamia, avocado, hides and skins, powdered milk, garments from EPZ, pyrethrum etc heading to mombasa for export. Each train ferrying the equivalent of 140 x 20ft containers. That is same as having 70 trucks on the road. With 7 cargo trains per day that is 490 trucks off the road each day leading to safer roads and less wear and tear of the roads saving billions for wanjiku. since the launch of SGR curiously accidents have reduced between Nairobi and Msa, still alot of accidents towards western Kenya Life is an endless adventure
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