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murchr
#151 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 4:55:53 PM
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hardwood wrote:
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Governor Okoth Obado: I am not afraid, police are looking for the murderers not the impregnater



Laughing out loudly
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Angelica _ann
#152 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:01:45 PM
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murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:
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Governor Okoth Obado: I am not afraid, police are looking for the murderers not the impregnater



Laughing out loudly


Guy is a thug kabisa d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Sad Sad Sad
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Impunity
#153 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:12:15 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:
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Governor Okoth Obado: I am not afraid, police are looking for the murderers not the impregnater



Laughing out loudly


Guy is a thug kabisa d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Sad Sad Sad


Did he actually say that?
Wah
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Ryko
#154 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:34:12 PM
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this guy Cliff Ombeta

Known as one of the best criminal lawyer, the only guy who would defend Satan, if he would appear today.

All this high profile murder/Drugs/..
1 The Akasha Brothers
2. Garissa Governor, murder of CEC
3. Pastor Nganga accident
4. Artur Margaryan...
5. Willie Kimani
6. Tujus Wife....
the list goes on and on


Now that he is representing the Obado, could be behind PA's change of script (delivered by the KDf guy) in to a victim. Justice may take long to be served in this case. Hope Sharon's case does not end up as a statistic in Ombeta's list of murder wins
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Realtreaty
#155 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:03:35 PM
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They can as well keep you for long to harvest your urine as you will need to go and urinate on a bowl that is tappedSad Sad Sad Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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mkenyan
#156 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:03:55 PM
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Ryko wrote:
this guy Cliff Ombeta

Known as one of the best criminal lawyer, the only guy who would defend Satan, if he would appear today.

All this high profile murder/Drugs/..
1 The Akasha Brothers
2. Garissa Governor, murder of CEC
3. Pastor Nganga accident
4. Artur Margaryan...
5. Willie Kimani
6. Tujus Wife....
the list goes on and on


Now that he is representing the Obado, could be behind PA's change of script (delivered by the KDf guy) in to a victim. Justice may take long to be served in this case. Hope Sharon's case does not end up as a statistic in Ombeta's list of murder wins

which are these ombeta's murder wins?
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mkenyan
#157 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:05:43 PM
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maka wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
maka wrote:
murchr wrote:
maka wrote:
murchr wrote:
2012 wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
PA now says he was also kidnapped with Sharon and the chonolist and that he also managed to escape.

Damn. Its now his word against the journalist. And I do not believe the journalist for one minute.. A lie detector would be helpful here


Watching the preliminary arguments...Oyamo might also go scot free... They took DNA samples from Ayamo without Court orders and in the abscense of his counsel...Well his DNA does not match anything on the scene...Sad


What madness? So, who ordered or gave them permission to take his DNA?


You leave your DNA everywhere, on cups you use, that hair that falls off etc. Police can collect this even before requesting for a sample officially. This is a lame excuse


That is self incrimination you cannot be forced. Whatever you are talking about will be unprocedural and wont be used in the trial...


I did not say forced anywhere. And why should we believe what this lawyer and his clients are telling us? When you sip coffee you leave your saliva on that cup....that can be used to analyze your DNA (si ni mate tu wanataka) I believe a smart detective can do this for their internal investigation so that they can determine if it is necessary to officially source for a formal test.


Now you are on the right path... Whatever they did before was wrong...


Assuming they were taking his DNA because of the charge relating to the alleged sexual offence/s (remember used condoms at scene)

*Section 36* of the  *Sexual Offences Act* provides;

“(1) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 26 of this Act or any other law, where a person is charged with committing an offence under this Act, the court may direct that an appropriate sample or samples be taken from the accused person, at such place and subject to such conditions as the court may direct for the purpose of forensic and other scientific testing, including a DNA test, in order to gather evidence and to ascertain whether or not the accused person committed the offence

It is presupposed an order is required....

1. it says that the court may direct. nowhere else does it expressly prohibit the taking of dna sample without the order of the court;
2. the dna samples may not necessarily have been taken because of the sexual offense (remember she allegedly fought back -fingernails etc; and
3. like murchr has said above nothing would stop the polic from taking such samples and then later on asking for the court to give an order for samples to be taken which this time may be used in the trial.
this dna thing is merely the advocates playing to the gallery, trying to create a narrative and trying to shift public opinion. you can see the effect of the same even herein wazua.



That's why I said assuming the charge is one under sexual offences

The presumed portion under Section 26 must be read with an accused's rights under Article 50

You CANNOT compel/force an accused to give a DNA sample. It goes against the very basic principle of non self incrimination under Article 50 (2)(a),(j) and particularly (l) which states in no uncertain terms that an Accused has the right - 'to refuse to give self-incriminating evidence'.

We must be careful to avoid discussion of "creating a narrative". An accused's right is as inalienable as those of a victim and must be read side by side.

kizungu nyingi za catwalk and you still miss the point.
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Lolest!
#158 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:17:40 PM
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Did I hear Citizen reporter Hassan Mugambi say Obado told detectives Oyamo was his PA in his first term but no longer holds the position?

Interesting stuff
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FRM2011
#159 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:55:23 AM
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Ryko wrote:
this guy Cliff Ombeta

Known as one of the best criminal lawyer, the only guy who would defend Satan, if he would appear today.

All this high profile murder/Drugs/..
1 The Akasha Brothers
2. Garissa Governor, murder of CEC
3. Pastor Nganga accident
4. Artur Margaryan...
5. Willie Kimani
6. Tujus Wife....
the list goes on and on


Now that he is representing the Obado, could be behind PA's change of script (delivered by the KDf guy) in to a victim. Justice may take long to be served in this case. Hope Sharon's case does not end up as a statistic in Ombeta's list of murder wins


We are a constitutional democracy where even the worst criminals must be granted a fair trial in a court of law. Take the Willie kimani case, our DCI had to get assistance from FBI to build a water-tight case. They even extracted DNA from a cigarette filter collected at the murder scene. This is the way to build capacity for our investigative and prosecution agencies. And cliff ombeta is helping the country do that albeit inadvertently.
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murchr
#160 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:33:04 PM
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Obado introduces his family
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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