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M-Akiba treasury bonds via mobile
Ebenyo
#281 Posted : Monday, April 09, 2018 4:16:17 PM
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gregory wrote:
Hii kitu kweli inatoka leo? si nimesota mbaya



Last time they paid late around this time.Hopefully they dont fail.
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Ebenyo
#282 Posted : Monday, April 09, 2018 6:08:02 PM
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Finally imeingia.Tangu saa zile kungoja! but better late than never.
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gregory
#283 Posted : Monday, April 09, 2018 6:57:57 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Finally imeingia.Tangu saa zile kungoja! but better late than never.

Pia yangu imefika
chiaroscuro
#284 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2018 8:47:49 AM
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Is there any activity on the secondary trading market?
gregory
#285 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:47:05 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
Is there any activity on the secondary trading market?

I sold my entire stake today. i lost 0.33% of the value i purchased with. does anyone know how long it takes for the money to hit account?
holycow
#286 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 10:08:44 AM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
Is there any activity on the secondary trading market?


Just bought on the secondary market, MK02. Bought at 1.0093. Don't know if this is clean price or dirty.
Ericsson
#287 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2018 11:50:43 PM
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https://www.businessdail...24822-xg53se/index.html

Times are tough
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
maka
#288 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 7:59:29 AM
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maka wrote:
Muthawamunene wrote:
maka wrote:
bird_man wrote:
kayhara wrote:
Going by the rate ordinary guys are locking funds in mshwari, then if they learn that they can lock the little money they have in T.B from serikali then CBK will have succeeded, plus if they market them on the many fm stations = success

The kawaida Wanjiku will want to cash out in 1 or 2 months even when intention was to stay for long.What then?Secondary market at unfavourable rates?


Rediscounting...


Was just about to ask the same thing.

We know you can buy by dialing *8-whatever_#, but how will you dispose of it? Is it liquidly tradable?
How will Wanjiku determine if she's getting a fair deal upon selling?

But I think the NSE will have provisions for these questions. Something like a leader board showing bids and asks. In that case let 'er rip.

6 months ain't too long wanjiku to wait for an interest payout. Its good.

Might even pop this property froth in the long term by giving peeps an alternative investment channel.



Equities will take a hit though, as wanjiku exits her positions.


Fixed Income Brokers have been fighting such a system for a long time coz if the board comes into place their work ends...Bond trading is more about negotiating wonder how this will work,how many Wanjikus realise that a drop in bps equates to a profit?


... @Hisah also talked about the sophistication of the bond market it was doomed to fail nothing to do with buyers...
possunt quia posse videntur
Ebenyo
#289 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 4:23:15 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/M-Akiba-investors-struggle-to-find-buyers/3946234-4624822-xg53se/index.html

Times are tough



These m-akiba is best for a longterm minded investor
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Taurrus
#290 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 5:54:28 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/M-Akiba-investors-struggle-to-find-buyers/3946234-4624822-xg53se/index.html

Times are tough



These m-akiba is best for a longterm minded investor

True! stock and forget
Ericsson
#291 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 7:36:12 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/M-Akiba-investors-struggle-to-find-buyers/3946234-4624822-xg53se/index.html

Times are tough



These m-akiba is best for a longterm minded investor


If people thought long term kenya would be like Asia tigers
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Taurrus
#292 Posted : Wednesday, July 04, 2018 7:18:52 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/M-Akiba-investors-struggle-to-find-buyers/3946234-4624822-xg53se/index.html

Times are tough



These m-akiba is best for a longterm minded investor


If people thought long term kenya would be like Asia tigers


Sisi ni watu ma-deal, quick ones !
winmak
#293 Posted : Wednesday, September 05, 2018 7:35:29 PM
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Has the second payment of M-Akiba 2 been remitted?
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
Ericsson
#294 Posted : Wednesday, September 05, 2018 8:07:20 PM
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winmak wrote:
Has the second payment of M-Akiba 2 been remitted?


From which money 💵.
GoK is broke
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
maka
#295 Posted : Wednesday, September 05, 2018 8:15:59 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
winmak wrote:
Has the second payment of M-Akiba 2 been remitted?


From which money 💵.
GoK is broke


Waah usiseme hivyo it would be a disaster if GOK defaults on any of its bonds payment....
possunt quia posse videntur
MugundaMan
#296 Posted : Wednesday, September 05, 2018 8:17:56 PM
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Very interesting that folks would buy a 3 year bond then want to sell in days or even a couple of months Laughing out loudly. I think the majority of those investing in this thing had no clue what they were doing. Which makes for rich pickings on the buy side IMHO.
holycow
#297 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:17:31 AM
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winmak wrote:
Has the second payment of M-Akiba 2 been remitted?


Received mine via Mpesa last night.
Ebenyo
#298 Posted : Wednesday, October 03, 2018 7:31:40 PM
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interest payment will be on 8th for m-akiba 1
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Ebenyo
#299 Posted : Tuesday, October 09, 2018 5:16:01 PM
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Received my interest payment last night via mpesa.
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Taurrus
#300 Posted : Tuesday, October 09, 2018 9:05:10 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Received my interest payment last night via mpesa.

good Drool
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