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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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tycho wrote:I think it feels good for common mwananchi to witness white collar crime and impunity being punished.
I'm also happy that white collar criminals are being exposed and that our political sensibilities can be aroused.
But when it comes to critically looking at the criminal justice system and its emphasis on correction we need to be a bit more cautious.
On the other end of the spectrum is the young person from the slums and low end areas being gunned down. I'm not sure that such strategies show clear thinking. I agree completely. However, it's also good to also look at history in order to deal with a vice. As you said, it's common place for one to be killed by a policeman. The policeman's excuse is that the justice system doesn't work. Where do the people supposed to cuddle the justice system get this idea from? From the cockroaches like Kidero who have no problem allowing people to die so that some Muindi can build on top of a river. Even when we were being poisoned by sugar barons, our Mpigs were busy getting 20k, a freaking 20k to change their minds. Uhuru is right on this one. Optics matter. Especially when you are trying to convince a populace of slaves who don't believe the rhetoric anymore. Germany had to be bombed to obvlivion before the Germans became probably the most sane humans on this earth. By the way, how come it is these muindis who are grabbing land all over Nairobi? Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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[quote=hardwood]Police arrest Evans Kidero with Sh70 bhang https://www.sde.co.ke/th...-kidero-with-sh70-bhang[/quote] But on a serious note,I didn't know bhang, with all that kick and risk, is cheaper than cigarette. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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NKT ..... Shindwe kabisa In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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[quote=hardwood]Police arrest Evans Kidero with Sh70 bhang https://www.sde.co.ke/th...-kidero-with-sh70-bhang[/quote] .....but why hide? Just tell us your supplier was arrested
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Rank: Elder You have been a member since:: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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alma1 wrote:tycho wrote:I think it feels good for common mwananchi to witness white collar crime and impunity being punished.
I'm also happy that white collar criminals are being exposed and that our political sensibilities can be aroused.
But when it comes to critically looking at the criminal justice system and its emphasis on correction we need to be a bit more cautious.
On the other end of the spectrum is the young person from the slums and low end areas being gunned down. I'm not sure that such strategies show clear thinking. I agree completely. However, it's also good to also look at history in order to deal with a vice. As you said, it's common place for one to be killed by a policeman. The policeman's excuse is that the justice system doesn't work. Where do the people supposed to cuddle the justice system get this idea from? From the cockroaches like Kidero who have no problem allowing people to die so that some Muindi can build on top of a river. Even when we were being poisoned by sugar barons, our Mpigs were busy getting 20k, a freaking 20k to change their minds. Uhuru is right on this one. Optics matter. Especially when you are trying to convince a populace of slaves who don't believe the rhetoric anymore. Germany had to be bombed to obvlivion before the Germans became probably the most sane humans on this earth. By the way, how come it is these muindis who are grabbing land all over Nairobi? Who bombed the Germans to oblivion? Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:I think it feels good for common mwananchi to witness white collar crime and impunity being punished.
I'm also happy that white collar criminals are being exposed and that our political sensibilities can be aroused.
But when it comes to critically looking at the criminal justice system and its emphasis on correction we need to be a bit more cautious.
On the other end of the spectrum is the young person from the slums and low end areas being gunned down. I'm not sure that such strategies show clear thinking. Wake me up when they are jailed. Otherwise all these is still PR. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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My friend, usinikashifu. I have never bought or consumed bhang but I always assumed that it would be obviously over 10 bob per msokoto. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:My friend, usinikashifu. I have never bought or consumed bhang but I always assumed that it would be obviously over 10 bob per msokoto. How now? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Now this is a gabana who has really eaten......
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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hardwood wrote:Now this is a gabana who has really eaten...... Whoever sold him that outfit should be hanged by his balls with a piano wire.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:Now this is a gabana who has really eaten...... Whoever sold him that outfit should be hanged by his balls with a piano wire. The poor Gabana looks guilty ab-initio. He must have eaten something TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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simonkabz wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:Now this is a gabana who has really eaten...... Whoever sold him that outfit should be hanged by his balls with a piano wire. The poor Gabana looks guilty ab-initio. He must have eaten something Has officially delegated his duties to his Deputy. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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Angelica _ann wrote:simonkabz wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:Now this is a gabana who has really eaten...... Whoever sold him that outfit should be hanged by his balls with a piano wire. The poor Gabana looks guilty ab-initio. He must have eaten something Has officially delegated his duties to his Deputy. awiti?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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mkenyan wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:simonkabz wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:Now this is a gabana who has really eaten...... Whoever sold him that outfit should be hanged by his balls with a piano wire. The poor Gabana looks guilty ab-initio. He must have eaten something Has officially delegated his duties to his Deputy. awiti? Yap Governor Awiti Mr. Dance-hall, has had eye issues for sometime. Wish guys elected Magwanga. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Quote: Reprieve for besieged Kidero as court stays Sh213mn graft case
Kidero moved to the High Court claiming the charge sheet presented in court implicating him in the multi-million shilling scandal is defective.
The case was set to come up for hearing next week on Monday before a Chief Magistrate’s Court but will have to wait for the ruling by High Court Judge John Onyiego on the ex-governor’s application.
He is facing charges of conspiracy to defraud Nairobi County, but he argues it was anchored on a non-existent offence, that doesn’t warrant to be arbitrated in an Anti-Corruption Court.
“A charge sheet is the basis of a criminal trial. Once it’s defective there can never be a trial,” Kidero through his lawyer James Orengo argued.
According to Orengo, the prosecution had an ulterior motive by charging his client with the offence.
Tackle number 1. Technicalities "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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murchr wrote:Quote: Reprieve for besieged Kidero as court stays Sh213mn graft case
Kidero moved to the High Court claiming the charge sheet presented in court implicating him in the multi-million shilling scandal is defective.
The case was set to come up for hearing next week on Monday before a Chief Magistrate’s Court but will have to wait for the ruling by High Court Judge John Onyiego on the ex-governor’s application.
He is facing charges of conspiracy to defraud Nairobi County, but he argues it was anchored on a non-existent offence, that doesn’t warrant to be arbitrated in an Anti-Corruption Court.
“A charge sheet is the basis of a criminal trial. Once it’s defective there can never be a trial,” Kidero through his lawyer James Orengo argued.
According to Orengo, the prosecution had an ulterior motive by charging his client with the offence.
Tackle number 1. Technicalities This is what they do until we reach 2022 and forget. Kenya In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Quote: Reprieve for besieged Kidero as court stays Sh213mn graft case
Kidero moved to the High Court claiming the charge sheet presented in court implicating him in the multi-million shilling scandal is defective.
The case was set to come up for hearing next week on Monday before a Chief Magistrate’s Court but will have to wait for the ruling by High Court Judge John Onyiego on the ex-governor’s application.
He is facing charges of conspiracy to defraud Nairobi County, but he argues it was anchored on a non-existent offence, that doesn’t warrant to be arbitrated in an Anti-Corruption Court.
“A charge sheet is the basis of a criminal trial. Once it’s defective there can never be a trial,” Kidero through his lawyer James Orengo argued.
According to Orengo, the prosecution had an ulterior motive by charging his client with the offence.
Tackle number 1. Technicalities This is what they do until we reach 2022 and forget. Kenya Well well.... Quote:The trial of former Nairobi Governor Evans Kidero in the Sh213 million corruption case will now proceed to full trial.
High Court judge John Onyiego on Tuesday lifted temporary orders he had issued on Thursday last week suspending the proceedings at the lower court.
Kidero and eight others are accused of conspiring to commit fraud, leading to the loss of Sh213,327,300 at the county government between January 16, 2014 and January 25, 2016. They allegedly authorised payments to various companies for services not rendered. Quote:Kidero also sought to be charged separately, arguing that the 35 counts in the charge sheet were lumped together with the aim of embarrassing him. But the magistrate said that all the charges as preferred against Kidero met the threshold required in law. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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