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Corruption in the Judiciary
Iganamagana
#101 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:48:57 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Not sure that the purveyors of impunity will punished by the rotten judicial system. There has to be another way.

We need a special squad like the one that dealt with Mungiki.


You are either a very keen student of our politics or on the inside lane. How could you be so right? The Milimani court is currently full hypocritical lawyers who pretend to fight for democracy and human rights.
wukan
#102 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:56:51 PM
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Everybody knows...Shame on you Shame on you

Quote:
An MP has written to Parliament seeking the rejection of Philomena Mwilu as Kenya's next deputy Chief Justice.

Kandara MP Alice Wahome wants the National Assembly Justice and Legal Affairs committee to reject the judge's nomination.

Wahome claims that Mwilu received a bribe of Sh3 million to influence the outcome of an election petition she (the MP) filed in 2008.

She said the bribe was for the judge to rule against her in favour of former MP Maina Kamau.

Wahome claimed she beat Kamau in the 2007 poll, and that the judge's ruling imposed the MP on residents of her constituency.

The MP said she wants the EACC to investigate the judge and that she was ready to provide evidence.
https://www.the-star.co....-bribery-claim_c1441109

murchr
#103 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:01:56 PM
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wukan wrote:
Everybody knows...Shame on you Shame on you

Quote:
An MP has written to Parliament seeking the rejection of Philomena Mwilu as Kenya's next deputy Chief Justice.

Kandara MP Alice Wahome wants the National Assembly Justice and Legal Affairs committee to reject the judge's nomination.

Wahome claims that Mwilu received a bribe of Sh3 million to influence the outcome of an election petition she (the MP) filed in 2008.

She said the bribe was for the judge to rule against her in favour of former MP Maina Kamau.

Wahome claimed she beat Kamau in the 2007 poll, and that the judge's ruling imposed the MP on residents of her constituency.

The MP said she wants the EACC to investigate the judge and that she was ready to provide evidence.
https://www.the-star.co....-bribery-claim_c1441109



This was before she was appointed to the the supreme court we should be caring about the issues raised by the DPP otherwise no one will trust the judiciary again.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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wukan
#104 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:14:32 PM
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murchr wrote:
wukan wrote:
Everybody knows...Shame on you Shame on you

Quote:
An MP has written to Parliament seeking the rejection of Philomena Mwilu as Kenya's next deputy Chief Justice.

Kandara MP Alice Wahome wants the National Assembly Justice and Legal Affairs committee to reject the judge's nomination.

Wahome claims that Mwilu received a bribe of Sh3 million to influence the outcome of an election petition she (the MP) filed in 2008.

She said the bribe was for the judge to rule against her in favour of former MP Maina Kamau.

Wahome claimed she beat Kamau in the 2007 poll, and that the judge's ruling imposed the MP on residents of her constituency.

The MP said she wants the EACC to investigate the judge and that she was ready to provide evidence.
https://www.the-star.co....-bribery-claim_c1441109



This was before she was appointed to the the supreme court we should be caring about the issues raised by the DPP otherwise no one will trust the judiciary again.


All the charges she is now facing relate to period of August 2013, 2014, 2015 to 2016 before she was appointed to the supreme court...don't rush to commentd'oh! d'oh!
simonkabz
#105 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:16:09 PM
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wukan wrote:
Everybody knows...Shame on you Shame on you

Quote:
An MP has written to Parliament seeking the rejection of Philomena Mwilu as Kenya's next deputy Chief Justice.

Kandara MP Alice Wahome wants the National Assembly Justice and Legal Affairs committee to reject the judge's nomination.

Wahome claims that Mwilu received a bribe of Sh3 million to influence the outcome of an election petition she (the MP) filed in 2008.

She said the bribe was for the judge to rule against her in favour of former MP Maina Kamau.

Wahome claimed she beat Kamau in the 2007 poll, and that the judge's ruling imposed the MP on residents of her constituency.

The MP said she wants the EACC to investigate the judge and that she was ready to provide evidence.
https://www.the-star.co....-bribery-claim_c1441109



I think I read somewhere that the two were classmates at some point. Alice had no kind words for the disgraced lady. She's indeed the most unpopular SC judge in the mountains for her inability to hide prejudice in her utterances and looks.

One look from her unajua umemamliswo Sad
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
FundamentAli
#106 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:11:55 PM
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wukan wrote:
murchr wrote:
wukan wrote:
Everybody knows...Shame on you Shame on you

Quote:
An MP has written to Parliament seeking the rejection of Philomena Mwilu as Kenya's next deputy Chief Justice.

Kandara MP Alice Wahome wants the National Assembly Justice and Legal Affairs committee to reject the judge's nomination.

Wahome claims that Mwilu received a bribe of Sh3 million to influence the outcome of an election petition she (the MP) filed in 2008.

She said the bribe was for the judge to rule against her in favour of former MP Maina Kamau.

Wahome claimed she beat Kamau in the 2007 poll, and that the judge's ruling imposed the MP on residents of her constituency.

The MP said she wants the EACC to investigate the judge and that she was ready to provide evidence.
https://www.the-star.co....-bribery-claim_c1441109



This was before she was appointed to the the supreme court we should be caring about the issues raised by the DPP otherwise no one will trust the judiciary again.


All the charges she is now facing relate to period of August 2013, 2014, 2015 to 2016 before she was appointed to the supreme court...don't rush to commentd'oh! d'oh!


Don't be too sure
mkenyan
#107 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:13:37 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
wukan wrote:
Everybody knows...Shame on you Shame on you

Quote:
An MP has written to Parliament seeking the rejection of Philomena Mwilu as Kenya's next deputy Chief Justice.

Kandara MP Alice Wahome wants the National Assembly Justice and Legal Affairs committee to reject the judge's nomination.

Wahome claims that Mwilu received a bribe of Sh3 million to influence the outcome of an election petition she (the MP) filed in 2008.

She said the bribe was for the judge to rule against her in favour of former MP Maina Kamau.

Wahome claimed she beat Kamau in the 2007 poll, and that the judge's ruling imposed the MP on residents of her constituency.

The MP said she wants the EACC to investigate the judge and that she was ready to provide evidence.
https://www.the-star.co....-bribery-claim_c1441109



I think I read somewhere that the two were classmates at some point. Alice had no kind words for the disgraced lady. She's indeed the most unpopular SC judge in the mountains for her inability to hide prejudice in her utterances and looks.

One look from her unajua umemamliswo :-(

Laughing out loudly
murchr
#108 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:45:34 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
wukan wrote:
murchr wrote:
wukan wrote:
Everybody knows...Shame on you Shame on you

Quote:
An MP has written to Parliament seeking the rejection of Philomena Mwilu as Kenya's next deputy Chief Justice.

Kandara MP Alice Wahome wants the National Assembly Justice and Legal Affairs committee to reject the judge's nomination.

Wahome claims that Mwilu received a bribe of Sh3 million to influence the outcome of an election petition she (the MP) filed in 2008.

She said the bribe was for the judge to rule against her in favour of former MP Maina Kamau.

Wahome claimed she beat Kamau in the 2007 poll, and that the judge's ruling imposed the MP on residents of her constituency.

The MP said she wants the EACC to investigate the judge and that she was ready to provide evidence.
https://www.the-star.co....-bribery-claim_c1441109



This was before she was appointed to the the supreme court we should be caring about the issues raised by the DPP otherwise no one will trust the judiciary again.


All the charges she is now facing relate to period of August 2013, 2014, 2015 to 2016 before she was appointed to the supreme court...don't rush to commentd'oh! d'oh!


Its not a matter of rushing to comment or Wahome. I think she tackled Wahome's issue with Grace, but did she commit the crime she now faces? If yes, then face the law if not that's another story. I doubt Alice has this power you all want to bandikia her
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Njunge
#109 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 4:02:20 PM
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What's up Maka?


Magistrate Mugambi has ruled that the orders by High Court temporarily blocking the DCJ’s case do not apply to the case before him. “I don’t want to amend the orders of the court, that will be trespassing on dangerous areas. I am only guided by an order that is clear and specific. So this order, in my view, does not apply to this case,”




2012
#110 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 4:15:42 PM
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wukan wrote:
murchr wrote:
wukan wrote:
Everybody knows...Shame on you Shame on you

Quote:
An MP has written to Parliament seeking the rejection of Philomena Mwilu as Kenya's next deputy Chief Justice.

Kandara MP Alice Wahome wants the National Assembly Justice and Legal Affairs committee to reject the judge's nomination.

Wahome claims that Mwilu received a bribe of Sh3 million to influence the outcome of an election petition she (the MP) filed in 2008.

She said the bribe was for the judge to rule against her in favour of former MP Maina Kamau.

Wahome claimed she beat Kamau in the 2007 poll, and that the judge's ruling imposed the MP on residents of her constituency.

The MP said she wants the EACC to investigate the judge and that she was ready to provide evidence.
https://www.the-star.co....-bribery-claim_c1441109



This was before she was appointed to the the supreme court we should be caring about the issues raised by the DPP otherwise no one will trust the judiciary again.


All the charges she is now facing relate to period of August 2013, 2014, 2015 to 2016 before she was appointed to the supreme court...don't rush to commentd'oh! d'oh!


There are many speculative reasons, here are mine:
-Former DPP (now CS) was a joke.
-No political will back then
-Political
-New evidence
-Graft fight PR

BBI will solve it
:)
murchr
#111 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 4:25:40 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#112 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 4:34:25 PM
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Njunge wrote:
What's up Maka?


Magistrate Mugambi has ruled that the orders by High Court temporarily blocking the DCJ’s case do not apply to the case before him. “I don’t want to amend the orders of the court, that will be trespassing on dangerous areas. I am only guided by an order that is clear and specific. So this order, in my view, does not apply to this case,”






In the ruling by high court, the case number quoted is not the one Mugambi is handling.
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Njunge
#113 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 4:40:48 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Njunge wrote:
What's up Maka?


Magistrate Mugambi has ruled that the orders by High Court temporarily blocking the DCJ’s case do not apply to the case before him. “I don’t want to amend the orders of the court, that will be trespassing on dangerous areas. I am only guided by an order that is clear and specific. So this order, in my view, does not apply to this case,”






In the ruling by high court, the case number quoted is not the one Mugambi is handling.


Okay.....and all those ODM learned friends didn't notice?Sad .BTW, if i was Uhuru i would cheekily use this one on Baba. Shake the handshakesmile
murchr
#114 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:16:36 PM
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Njunge wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Njunge wrote:
What's up Maka?


Magistrate Mugambi has ruled that the orders by High Court temporarily blocking the DCJ’s case do not apply to the case before him. “I don’t want to amend the orders of the court, that will be trespassing on dangerous areas. I am only guided by an order that is clear and specific. So this order, in my view, does not apply to this case,”






In the ruling by high court, the case number quoted is not the one Mugambi is handling.


Okay.....and all those ODM learned friends didn't notice?Sad .BTW, if i was Uhuru i would cheekily use this one on Baba. Shake the handshakesmile



Case to continue tomorrow. The orders obtained did not stop the proceedings of the magistrate court.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Baratang
#115 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:23:44 PM
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Njunge wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Njunge wrote:
What's up Maka?


Magistrate Mugambi has ruled that the orders by High Court temporarily blocking the DCJ’s case do not apply to the case before him. “I don’t want to amend the orders of the court, that will be trespassing on dangerous areas. I am only guided by an order that is clear and specific. So this order, in my view, does not apply to this case,”






In the ruling by high court, the case number quoted is not the one Mugambi is handling.


Okay.....and all those ODM learned friends didn't notice?Sad .BTW, if i was Uhuru i would cheekily use this one on Baba. Shake the handshakesmile


The mischief has started...seems we are in for a five star model entertainment yawa.
Kaigangio
#116 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:33:06 PM
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Saidia hapa guys. There are two files on the same case. One file with the chief magistrate of the lower court and the other file is with the high court...so far so good.

But now the high court suspension of criminal proceedings against Mwilu does not amount to court order to magistrate court to stop the action and as such the high court is "a fox eating sugar cane" currently.

Now what!!!?? I am lost kabisa!!
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
murchr
#117 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:39:48 PM
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They want to use this case ruling to say that DCJ cannot be prosecuted wrote:

Analysis of the law, issues and authorities

25. The core issues that falls for determination are:- (a) whether judicial officers are precluded from investigations, arrest, detention or prosecution for criminal offences allegedly committed in the course of performing their judicial functions, and (b) if answer to (a) is in the affirmative, whether there are sufficient grounds to stop the criminal proceedings against the petitioner.

26. In Bradley v. Fisher,[19] Justice Field used the following language:- “For it is a general principle of the highest importance to the proper administration of justice that a judicial officer, in exercising the authority vested in him, shall be free to act upon his own convictions, without apprehension of personal consequences to himself.

27. The above position is captured correctly in the provisions of Article 160 (5) of the constitution which provides that " A member of the Judiciary is not liable in an action or suit in respect of anything done or omitted to be done in good faith in the lawful performance of a judicial function."


But they forget this one wrote:
36. Clearly, judges – like any other person – should be punished for any crimes they commit, be they general crimes, for example causing a car accident in a state of drunkenness, or specific crimes related to the judicial function, such as taking bribes for handing down favourable judgments or interfering with the administration of justice for which alone they swore to uphold. Judicial officers are bound by the constitution and the laws of the land and must live and uphold the spirit of the law. Like Ceaser's wife, they must be beyond reproach. It would be a sad day for the administration of justice if those charged with the responsibility of interpreting the law and upholding the rule of law are to be perceived as the ones breaking the law. The public will certainly lose confidence in the entire system of the administration of justice and the consequences cannot be imagined.


http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/139318/

The circus continues
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mkenyan
#118 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:51:24 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
Saidia hapa guys. There are two files on the same case. One file with the chief magistrate of the lower court and the other file is with the high court...so far so good.

But now the high court suspension of criminal proceedings against Mwilu does not amount to court order to magistrate court to stop the action and as such the high court is "a fox eating sugar cane" currently.

Now what!!!?? I am lost kabisa!!

there is a case before the magistrate against the dcj.
before a please was taken however her lawyers went before the high court (just like many kenyans have and continue to) and lodged a petition challenging the constitutionality of the criminal proceedings against her. the high court issued conservatory orders stopping the criminal proceedings against her before the magistrate pending the hearing of her petition.
however the order as extracted had the wrong criminal case number and the magistrate rightfully pointed out that he can't stop the proceedings based on such an unclear order. however he gave the parties time to have the issue sorted. the only reason the magistrate could not stay proceedings as per the order is because of that wrong case number on it.
so the parties would go back to court with the amended order and the criminal proceedings before the magistrate shall have to be stayed pending the hearing of the high court matter.
btw, note that the dcj is currently out on her personal bond. in my opinion the magistrate is in a difficult position but has handled the matter very well.
obiero
#119 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:44:08 PM
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Justice Philomena Mwilu has a former Attorney General as her husband and people still expect that a conviction will be obtained?? Hapa ndio mtajua learned friend inamaanisha nini

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Amores
#120 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2018 12:28:20 AM
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Good chance to get a new DCJ who can read.....
I am happy
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