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Corruption in the Judiciary
Kaigangio
#61 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 5:17:13 PM
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Now that was fast. She is in the court now. She is seated outside the mbao!!
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Kaigangio
#62 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 5:21:36 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
Now that was fast. She is in the court now. She is seated outside the mbao!!


...and I can see Orengo in there explaining how innocent Mwilu is...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
murchr
#63 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 5:28:01 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Now that was fast. She is in the court now. She is seated outside the mbao!!


...and I can see Orengo in there explaining how innocent Mwilu is...


Why is the court holding a special sitting?

5M Bond/Bail
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#64 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 5:30:35 PM
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thuks wrote:
maka wrote:
Njunge wrote:
Of all suspects, i really pity this one. A fair enough take home, a near secure job, adult kids, a smiling rich boyfriend and then you engage in corruption.Sad Pray


It's just madness... Usually ask myself what's enough?


And who's the lawyer mentioned here?
https://mobile.nation.co...1876-d75incz/index.html



Stanley Muluvi Kiima
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Baratang
#65 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 5:35:40 PM
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murchr wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Now that was fast. She is in the court now. She is seated outside the mbao!!


...and I can see Orengo in there explaining how innocent Mwilu is...


Why is the court holding a special sitting?

5M Bond/Bail


Looks like she will spend the night in police cells as there might be no one to process the bond at this time....
Angelica _ann
#66 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 5:43:48 PM
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Baratang wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Now that was fast. She is in the court now. She is seated outside the mbao!!


...and I can see Orengo in there explaining how innocent Mwilu is...


Why is the court holding a special sitting?

5M Bond/Bail


Looks like she will spend the night in police cells as there might be no one to process the bond at this time....


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murchr
#67 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 5:44:37 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Baratang wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
Now that was fast. She is in the court now. She is seated outside the mbao!!


...and I can see Orengo in there explaining how innocent Mwilu is...


Why is the court holding a special sitting?

5M Bond/Bail


Looks like she will spend the night in police cells as there might be no one to process the bond at this time....


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Witnesses = Peter Kariuki Gatere and 35 others.

Peter Gatere served as receiver manager of Imperial Bank, is also a witness to the W. E Tilley case (Fish business ref Imperial Bank thread Blue section)

This case might net some other big fish (former CBK gov) keep watching
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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2012
#68 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 6:16:01 PM
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It looks like the services of NASA's "top" lawyers have been secured for her... Just an observation.

BBI will solve it
:)
newfarer
#69 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 6:19:34 PM
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when are they going for the shamba boy 2022
punda amecheka
murchr
#70 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 6:25:32 PM
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newfarer wrote:
when are they going for the shamba boy 2022


No one has any guarantees
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#71 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 6:29:41 PM
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2012 wrote:
It looks like the services of NASA's "top" lawyers have been secured for her... Just an observation.


So she was/is a 'friend' of the NASA Election lawyers. Some of these things stink and they don't even hide it from us - ciko!!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
murchr
#72 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 6:45:16 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
2012 wrote:
It looks like the services of NASA's "top" lawyers have been secured for her... Just an observation.


So she was/is a 'friend' of the NASA Election lawyers. Some of these things stink and they don't even hide it from us - ciko!!!!


Over 10 lawyers? Who's interests are they (she) presenting?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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2012
#73 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 6:46:53 PM
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Thinking out loud:

For the DPP to be so sure about her guilt over something that happened behind closed doors, whatever transactions happened at Imperial Bank were well documented or recorded to be used against her just in case she did not fullfil her end of the bargain and clearly she didn't.

BBI will solve it
:)
Baratang
#74 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 6:59:19 PM
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murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
2012 wrote:
It looks like the services of NASA's "top" lawyers have been secured for her... Just an observation.


So she was/is a 'friend' of the NASA Election lawyers. Some of these things stink and they don't even hide it from us - ciko!!!!


Over 10 lawyers? Who's interests are they (she) presenting?


Of all these lawyers, how many are under Mwilu' s payroll and how many are offering pro bono services. If all of them are being paid then by the time the case is half way through, this woman will be broke.
What value are so many lawyers adding to the case in favour of Mwilu?
FRM2011
#75 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 7:08:27 PM
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2012 wrote:
Thinking out loud:

For the DPP to be so sure about her guilt over something that happened behind closed doors, whatever transactions happened at Imperial Bank were well documented or recorded to be used against her just in case she did not fullfil her end of the bargain and clearly she didn't.


My thoughts too. Most likely an insider is willing to talk or has already talked. A lawyer friend puts the number of judges/magistrates who are incorruptible at less than 10%. There is an expansive network of brokers who know how to get to each judge/magistrate to influence judgements.
wukan
#76 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 7:16:15 PM
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2012 wrote:
Thinking out loud:

For the DPP to be so sure about her guilt over something that happened behind closed doors, whatever transactions happened at Imperial Bank were well documented or recorded to be used against her just in case she did not fullfil her end of the bargain and clearly she didn't.


She was busted by KRA and CBK that's an open and shut case on tax evasion even Al Capone was eventually jailed on that. The other charges of failing to pay stamp duty those she can escape
murchr
#77 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 7:25:55 PM
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wukan wrote:
2012 wrote:
Thinking out loud:

For the DPP to be so sure about her guilt over something that happened behind closed doors, whatever transactions happened at Imperial Bank were well documented or recorded to be used against her just in case she did not fullfil her end of the bargain and clearly she didn't.


She was busted by KRA and CBK that's an open and shut case on tax evasion even Al Capone was eventually jailed on that. The other charges of failing to pay stamp duty those she can escape


Why by feigning ignorance?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mkenyan
#78 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 8:07:03 PM
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murchr wrote:
wukan wrote:
2012 wrote:
Thinking out loud:

For the DPP to be so sure about her guilt over something that happened behind closed doors, whatever transactions happened at Imperial Bank were well documented or recorded to be used against her just in case she did not fullfil her end of the bargain and clearly she didn't.


She was busted by KRA and CBK that's an open and shut case on tax evasion even Al Capone was eventually jailed on that. The other charges of failing to pay stamp duty those she can escape


Why by feigning ignorance?

the scam has evolved over time but it remains the same at its core. when you want to transfer property you must pay stamp duty. the property is first valued then the stamp duty is paid at the bank (national bank) and the payment slip taken to lands office for processing. now to evade making this payment and 'eat' the stamp duty, one would make fake payment slip and take them to lands office where their contacts will close their eyes and process the transfer. the loot is then shared. in most cases this is done by lawyers and or the clerks they entrust with the work. this is probably why the lawyer has been charged too. if she'd paid the money or had reasonable cause to believe her lawyer had (maybe he had her money or paid an all inclusive fee without looking into the amounts etc) then she has a good defence.
safariant
#79 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 9:11:34 PM
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Baratang wrote:
murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
2012 wrote:
It looks like the services of NASA's "top" lawyers have been secured for her... Just an observation.


So she was/is a 'friend' of the NASA Election lawyers. Some of these things stink and they don't even hide it from us - ciko!!!!


Over 10 lawyers? Who's interests are they (she) presenting?


Of all these lawyers, how many are under Mwilu' s payroll and how many are offering pro bono services. If all of them are being paid then by the time the case is half way through, this woman will be broke.
What value are so many lawyers adding to the case in favour of Mwilu?

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Kusadikika
#80 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2018 9:15:00 PM
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safariant wrote:
Baratang wrote:
murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
2012 wrote:
It looks like the services of NASA's "top" lawyers have been secured for her... Just an observation.


So she was/is a 'friend' of the NASA Election lawyers. Some of these things stink and they don't even hide it from us - ciko!!!!


Over 10 lawyers? Who's interests are they (she) presenting?


Of all these lawyers, how many are under Mwilu' s payroll and how many are offering pro bono services. If all of them are being paid then by the time the case is half way through, this woman will be broke.
What value are so many lawyers adding to the case in favour of Mwilu?



Those are not Judge Mwilu's lawyers those are lawyers for the Senator for Busia. She is hanging by a thread. If the senator stops smiling at her she is on her own.
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