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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,323 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ngapat wrote:Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example Telkom kenya are trying,airtel are the ones who are dead The quality of personnel at Telkom is at the moment of much greater depth than Safaricom. Its just Kenyans peculiar habits that keep people tied to an expensive network, but atleast the latest CA report shows voice traffic on Safaricom dropped close to 10% in Q4 2017 True Obiero telkom Kenya has changed Totally changed.. Most of the executive team are industry shapers with global acclaim, some being part of Safaricom initial success http://www.telkom.co.ke/management COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:[quote=ngapat]Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example Telkom kenya are trying,airtel are the ones who are dead The quality of personnel at Telkom is at the moment of much greater depth than Safaricom. Its just Kenyans peculiar habits that keep people tied to an expensive network, but atleast the latest CA report shows voice traffic on Safaricom dropped close to 10% in Q4 2017 True Obiero telkom Kenya has changed Totally changed.. Most of the executive team are industry shapers with global acclaim, some being part of Safaricom initial success http://www.telkom.co.ke/management[/quote] Helios know how to fatten calves for slaughter. If all works out for them (if not crushed by Safaricom) we will have an IPO in 5 years. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,323 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ngapat wrote:Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example Telkom kenya are trying,airtel are the ones who are dead The quality of personnel at Telkom is at the moment of much greater depth than Safaricom. Its just Kenyans peculiar habits that keep people tied to an expensive network, but atleast the latest CA report shows voice traffic on Safaricom dropped close to 10% in Q4 2017 True Obiero telkom Kenya has changed Totally changed.. Most of the executive team are industry shapers with global acclaim, some being part of Safaricom initial success http://www.telkom.co.ke/management
Helios know how to fatten calves for slaughter. If all works out for them (if not crushed by Safaricom) we will have an IPO in 5 years. Let that IPO come soon COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,820 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ngapat wrote:Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example Telkom kenya are trying,airtel are the ones who are dead The quality of personnel at Telkom is at the moment of much greater depth than Safaricom. Its just Kenyans peculiar habits that keep people tied to an expensive network, but atleast the latest CA report shows voice traffic on Safaricom dropped close to 10% in Q4 2017 True Obiero telkom Kenya has changed Totally changed.. Most of the executive team are industry shapers with global acclaim, some being part of Safaricom initial success http://www.telkom.co.ke/management
Helios know how to fatten calves for slaughter. If all works out for them (if not crushed by Safaricom) we will have an IPO in 5 years. Let that IPO come soon All can only work for them if Airtel falters. As for safaricom them they are in a different league not forgetting the financial muscle and debt free status of the balance sheet Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/6/2016 Posts: 167 Location: Nairobi
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ngapat wrote:Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example I have been trying out the Telkom network for the past 1 week. Firstly when I bought the simcard from their shop in sarit, the sales person had to step out of the office to look for signal to activate my line..early warning signs Now on the data front I have given up..I have been used to safaricom fast and reliable 4G. Telkom is weak kabisa, I have to airplane mode a couple of times a day to restart the connection..not to mention most times its on EDGE or H+ I think a good segment of the market will happily pay a bit more to get fast reliable 4G instead of suffering with the Telkoms and Airtels of this world
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2017 Posts: 186 Location: Nairobi
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snifadog wrote:ngapat wrote:Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example I have been trying out the Telkom network for the past 1 week. Firstly when I bought the simcard from their shop in sarit, the sales person had to step out of the office to look for signal to activate my line..early warning signs Now on the data front I have given up..I have been used to safaricom fast and reliable 4G. Telkom is weak kabisa, I have to airplane mode a couple of times a day to restart the connection..not to mention most times its on EDGE or H+ I think a good segment of the market will happily pay a bit more to get fast reliable 4G instead of suffering with the Telkoms and Airtels of this world Main Reason why am stuck in this unwanted Union with Safaricon
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,380 Location: Nairobi
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snifadog wrote:ngapat wrote:Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example I have been trying out the Telkom network for the past 1 week. Firstly when I bought the simcard from their shop in sarit, the sales person had to step out of the office to look for signal to activate my line..early warning signs Now on the data front I have given up..I have been used to safaricom fast and reliable 4G. Telkom is weak kabisa, I have to airplane mode a couple of times a day to restart the connection..not to mention most times its on EDGE or H+ I think a good segment of the market will happily pay a bit more to get fast reliable 4G instead of suffering with the Telkoms and Airtels of this world That's messed up. Surely, they can stick a base station in their shop! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,323 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:snifadog wrote:ngapat wrote:Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example I have been trying out the Telkom network for the past 1 week. Firstly when I bought the simcard from their shop in sarit, the sales person had to step out of the office to look for signal to activate my line..early warning signs Now on the data front I have given up..I have been used to safaricom fast and reliable 4G. Telkom is weak kabisa, I have to airplane mode a couple of times a day to restart the connection..not to mention most times its on EDGE or H+ I think a good segment of the market will happily pay a bit more to get fast reliable 4G instead of suffering with the Telkoms and Airtels of this world That's messed up. Surely, they can stick a base station in their shop! I personally haven’t been affected by the stated service outtages COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,194 Location: nairobi
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I don't trust Indians,it can be a tax evading formula,this liabilities indicates the company is dead "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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