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My fren is very wrong here. It's very important for youth to know, not just when Vasco da gama landed at Kenyan coast, but also why he did in the first place, and the effects of the same. While knowing the same does not prevent the youth from knowing how electricity is generated, it would be very good if the youth can see the connection between the two, and how this is relevant today
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Hustler is very wrong on this. Even the great Winston Churchill stated that the farther backward you look, the farther forward you are likely to see. We cannot all fit in that box called STEM...the human brain's capacity is unfathomable. Those so called humanities play a part in life, they teach/embolden critical thinking skills. As someone stated its not just about vasco arriving in Malindi, but why did vasco make the journey and what impact did that have in yester and today's society. This speech coming from a VP is really troubling. He should fire that speech writer if he had too much to do b4 reading and analyzing it. Bure! "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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murchr wrote:Hustler is very wrong on this. Even the great Winston Churchill stated that the farther backward you look, the farther forward you are likely to see. We cannot all fit in that box called STEM...the human brain's capacity is unfathomable. Those so called humanities play a part in life, they teach/embolden critical thinking skills. As someone stated its not just about vasco arriving in Malindi, but why did vasco make the journey and what impact did that have in yester and today's society. This speech coming from a VP is really troubling. He should fire that speech writer if he had too much to do b4 reading and analyzing it. Bure! I don't think these are thoughts of a speechwriter. Ruto told a teachers' meeting the same thing some yes back in an off the cuff speech Sounds like something he believes in
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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In agreement with Ruto. History we study should be reviewed. work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,586
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Tokyo wrote:In agreement with Ruto. History we study should be reviewed. Maybe  Are people being taught history or lies, if you get a degree in lies from Vasco da gama, and continue teaching the same lies, paying people to lie, afadhali kujua kupika chapo or something that adds value instead of being hypnotized by Kant, Nietzsche, sijui Hume, and coming to regurgitate it here, afadhali kupika sukuma than being brainwashed. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Much Know wrote:Tokyo wrote:In agreement with Ruto. History we study should be reviewed. Maybe Are people being taught history or lies, if you get a degree in lies from Vasco da gama, and continue teaching the same lies, paying people to lie, afadhali kujua kupika chapo or something that adds value instead of being hypnotized by Kant, Nietzsche, sijui Hume, and coming to regurgitate it here, afadhali kupika sukuma than being brainwashed. And what is this lie? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,586
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murchr wrote:Much Know wrote:Tokyo wrote:In agreement with Ruto. History we study should be reviewed. Maybe Are people being taught history or lies, if you get a degree in lies from Vasco da gama, and continue teaching the same lies, paying people to lie, afadhali kujua kupika chapo or something that adds value instead of being hypnotized by Kant, Nietzsche, sijui Hume, and coming to regurgitate it here, afadhali kupika sukuma than being brainwashed. And what is this lie? Who discovered lake Victoria? etc. This is why student's are burning schools, they don't want to be fooled by the system, teach them the truth, no more chaos, kama sio hivo give them a real skill. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Much Know wrote:murchr wrote:Much Know wrote:Tokyo wrote:In agreement with Ruto. History we study should be reviewed. Maybe Are people being taught history or lies, if you get a degree in lies from Vasco da gama, and continue teaching the same lies, paying people to lie, afadhali kujua kupika chapo or something that adds value instead of being hypnotized by Kant, Nietzsche, sijui Hume, and coming to regurgitate it here, afadhali kupika sukuma than being brainwashed. And what is this lie? Who discovered lake Victoria? etc. This is why student's are burning schools, they don't want to be fooled by the system, teach them the truth, no more chaos, kama sio hivo give them a real skill. Question should be who was the first European to discover lake lolwe. (Not Vasco by the way and no book/class teaches that so lets not lie here) And Why was it called Victoria. Its foolish to live without knowing the past....those countries you want to emulate so badly in the west have made history a compulsory subject. What is important is what made vasco leave Portugal and sail all the way and how did that journey influence life today. Am sure you wouldn't know that "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,586
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murchr wrote:Much Know wrote:murchr wrote:Much Know wrote:Tokyo wrote:In agreement with Ruto. History we study should be reviewed. Maybe Are people being taught history or lies, if you get a degree in lies from Vasco da gama, and continue teaching the same lies, paying people to lie, afadhali kujua kupika chapo or something that adds value instead of being hypnotized by Kant, Nietzsche, sijui Hume, and coming to regurgitate it here, afadhali kupika sukuma than being brainwashed. And what is this lie? Who discovered lake Victoria? etc. This is why student's are burning schools, they don't want to be fooled by the system, teach them the truth, no more chaos, kama sio hivo give them a real skill. Question should be who was the first European to discover lake lolwe. (Not Vasco by the way and no book/class teaches that so lets not lie here) And Why was it called Victoria. Its foolish to live without knowing the past....those countries you want to emulate so badly in the west have made history a compulsory subject. What is important is what made vasco leave Portugal and sail all the way and how did that journey influence life today. Am sure you wouldn't know that Another is the history of zinjathropus, Africans, come from such a monkey, if you don't understand physics ati by "carbon-dating" this and that, uwongo mtupu! Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Much Know wrote:murchr wrote:Much Know wrote:murchr wrote:Much Know wrote:Tokyo wrote:In agreement with Ruto. History we study should be reviewed. Maybe Are people being taught history or lies, if you get a degree in lies from Vasco da gama, and continue teaching the same lies, paying people to lie, afadhali kujua kupika chapo or something that adds value instead of being hypnotized by Kant, Nietzsche, sijui Hume, and coming to regurgitate it here, afadhali kupika sukuma than being brainwashed. And what is this lie? Who discovered lake Victoria? etc. This is why student's are burning schools, they don't want to be fooled by the system, teach them the truth, no more chaos, kama sio hivo give them a real skill. Question should be who was the first European to discover lake lolwe. (Not Vasco by the way and no book/class teaches that so lets not lie here) And Why was it called Victoria. Its foolish to live without knowing the past....those countries you want to emulate so badly in the west have made history a compulsory subject. What is important is what made vasco leave Portugal and sail all the way and how did that journey influence life today. Am sure you wouldn't know that Another is the history of zinjathropus, Africans, come from such a monkey, if you don't understand physics ati by "carbon-dating" this and that, uwongo mtupu! Ulisomea kwa dirisha nini? I'd rather kids are taught History than CRE/IRE "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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