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young
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:28:19 AM
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For a sustainable long term investment in Ghana , I will strongly recommend real estate if you have a flair for it.
This is because quite unlike other countries in Africa, their real estate (land and houses) is dollar denominated I'm middle class and upper middle class suburbs.

It is a well known fast on the long term dollar outperforms African currencies .

For a mature estate you can have a look at a condo(equivalent of an apartment in a high rise building in Kenya) in Devtraco estate
www.devtraco.com

Or an upcoming estate in Appolonia city
Where you can get a plot or a house
www.Appolonia.com.GH

Notwithstanding the high price in USD, payment terms (up coming estates only) is more flexible ranging from 12 to 36 months payment plans. But you need to wait for 8 to 10 years for the estate to mature in order to recoup your investment .


The high point of Appolonia city is that the President of Ghana visited there to commission an aspect of their estate that shows the genuineness and legality of the estate .

NOTE;- These are all illustrations you have to do your due diligence and you must see what you want to buy
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young
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:33:59 AM
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The link below of Ghana President visit to Appolonia city.

https://www.graphic.com....-at-appolonia-city.html
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
lochaz-index
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:49:19 AM
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young wrote:
For a sustainable long term investment in Ghana , I will strongly recommend real estate if you have a flair for it.
This is because quite unlike other countries in Africa, their real estate (land and houses) is dollar denominated I'm middle class and upper middle class suburbs.

It is a well known fast on the long term dollar outperforms African currencies .

For a mature estate you can have a look at a condo(equivalent of an apartment in a high rise building in Kenya) in Devtraco estate
www.devtraco.com

Or an upcoming estate in Appolonia city
Where you can get a plot or a house
www.Appolonia.com.GH

Notwithstanding the high price in USD, payment terms (up coming estates only) is more flexible ranging from 12 to 36 months payment plans. But you need to wait for 8 to 10 years for the estate to mature in order to recoup your investment .


The high point of Appolonia city is that the President of Ghana visited there to commission an aspect of their estate that shows the genuineness and legality of the estate .

NOTE;- These are all illustrations you have to do your due diligence and you must see what you want to buy

Seconded but with a small caveat on the trend for subsaharan real estate. On average in terms of capital appreciation, the best years are behind it. Possibly another 2-3 years of above average return before the cycle shifts.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
lochaz-index
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:52:32 AM
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maka wrote:
Been following up on purchasing some bonds in that country rates are super attractive...

Currency risk could outstrip the returns depending on the time horizon though I think KES is going to have a tougher time going forward vs the dollar than the cedi.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
maka
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:05:50 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
maka wrote:
Been following up on purchasing some bonds in that country rates are super attractive...

Currency risk could outstrip the returns depending on the time horizon though I think KES is going to have a tougher time going forward vs the dollar than the cedi.


10 year period...
possunt quia posse videntur
young
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:16:21 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
maka wrote:
Been following up on purchasing some bonds in that country rates are super attractive...

Currency risk could outstrip the returns depending on the time horizon though I think KES is going to have a tougher time going forward vs the dollar than the cedi.


I believe this is just your mere thought as there is no basis.
This can only happen if ksh depreciates to 200ksh/$ to match up with the seriously battered
Cedi.
This cannot happen
in the next few years.......
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
lochaz-index
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:27:34 PM
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maka wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
maka wrote:
Been following up on purchasing some bonds in that country rates are super attractive...

Currency risk could outstrip the returns depending on the time horizon though I think KES is going to have a tougher time going forward vs the dollar than the cedi.


10 year period...

In that case, KES would have the upperhand. In a shorter time frame it would be the reverse.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
maka
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:38:29 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
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Location: Nairobi
lochaz-index wrote:
maka wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
maka wrote:
Been following up on purchasing some bonds in that country rates are super attractive...

Currency risk could outstrip the returns depending on the time horizon though I think KES is going to have a tougher time going forward vs the dollar than the cedi.


10 year period...

In that case, KES would have the upperhand. In a shorter time frame it would be the reverse.


There is no WHT for foreign investors... 8% tax on gross for Ghanaians....
possunt quia posse videntur
lochaz-index
#19 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:41:10 PM
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young wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
maka wrote:
Been following up on purchasing some bonds in that country rates are super attractive...

Currency risk could outstrip the returns depending on the time horizon though I think KES is going to have a tougher time going forward vs the dollar than the cedi.


I believe this is just your mere thought as there is no basis.
This can only happen if ksh depreciates to 200ksh/$ to match up with the seriously battered
Cedi.
This cannot happen
in the next few years.......

Let's make a distinction...my recommendation is for an investor looking in. In that case past performance of either the cedi or KES counts for nothing as it doesn't indicate future performance.

For investors already holding assets in Ghana during the currency slide, the damage is already done and of course they faired far worse than KE ones.

My contention is that going forward on the short term, I don't expect KES to be a stellar performer like it has been in the past even against the cedi. So it is a question/comparison/projection of future performance without accounting for what has already transpired.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
lochaz-index
#20 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:45:22 PM
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Joined: 9/18/2014
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maka wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
maka wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
maka wrote:
Been following up on purchasing some bonds in that country rates are super attractive...

Currency risk could outstrip the returns depending on the time horizon though I think KES is going to have a tougher time going forward vs the dollar than the cedi.


10 year period...

In that case, KES would have the upperhand. In a shorter time frame it would be the reverse.


There is no WHT for foreign investors... 8% tax on gross for Ghanaians....

Smart. Don't put unnecessary costs if you are the one holding the begging bowl.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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