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Can our Kenyan fundis build something like this?
MugundaMan
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 15, 2018 8:38:40 AM
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I highly doubt it my broda, but I could be wrong. The problem with our local fundis is that no matter how good your design is, after they lay their hands on it it always ends up looking something like this;



i.e product of a diseased mind and cursed hands. #Sad
kayhara
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 15, 2018 9:17:36 AM
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That's because many Kenyan clients kick out the architect and engineer after approvals, management during construction is crucial to getting the end results that's why you see very beautiful renders but very shoddy buildings, another thing is the client giving instructions directly to the contractor/ fundi which end up messing the building, limited budgets also kill many dreams,visit Vipingo ridge and see quality work, even Mombasa where clients left everything the architect.
To Each His Own
MugundaMan
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:36:15 PM
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kayhara wrote:
That's because many Kenyan clients kick out the architect and engineer after approvals, management during construction is crucial to getting the end results that's why you see very beautiful renders but very shoddy buildings, another thing is the client giving instructions directly to the contractor/ fundi which end up messing the building, limited budgets also kill many dreams,visit Vipingo ridge and see quality work, even Mombasa where clients left everything the architect.



I think also the level of training of fundis is wanting. Most people view mjengo jobs and skilled trades as those for dropouts and failures in life, hence the low levels of motivation and skills. Government needs to upgrade and standardise the training of these fundis in technical schools so that we get better quality buildings across the board. Some of these buildings are like tombs. If I lived in them I would probably be depressed whenever it was time to go home.


maka
#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:05:47 PM
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It's possible...
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wukan
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:22:12 PM
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Best local fundis are from huko Nyanza-they are very keen on details
obiero
#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 15, 2018 4:53:35 PM
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MugundaMan wrote:


I highly doubt it my broda, but I could be wrong. The problem with our local fundis is that no matter how good your design is, after they lay their hands on it it always ends up looking something like this;



i.e product of a diseased mind and cursed hands. #Sad

I believe with proper landscaping and lighting similar to photo 1, the second house isn't poorly designed or much less appealing
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MugundaMan
#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 15, 2018 5:48:48 PM
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obiero wrote:

I believe with proper landscaping and lighting similar to photo 1, the second house isn't poorly designed or much less appealing


Uwongo mtupu my broda Laughing out loudly
How now?
Look at the tumi-misshapen arches, terribly sharp corners and lack of symmetry. Haiwezimek kabisa kabisa no matter how good the landscaping. Let's be honest, if both were being sold for the same price we all know which one would sell faster.
Fullykenyan
#8 Posted : Wednesday, August 15, 2018 7:18:43 PM
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kayhara wrote:
That's because many Kenyan clients kick out the architect and engineer after approvals, management during construction is crucial to getting the end results that's why you see very beautiful renders but very shoddy buildings, another thing is the client giving instructions directly to the contractor/ fundi which end up messing the building, limited budgets also kill many dreams,visit Vipingo ridge and see quality work, even Mombasa where clients left everything the architect.


Boss, there is very little information online about Vipingo Ridge? how much does an acre go for, or do they sell minimum ten acres? :)
Do they have amenities like Hospitals, ama one has to go all the way to mombasa? Will appreciate if you share some information if you can. Thanks in advance
kayhara
#9 Posted : Wednesday, August 15, 2018 8:05:51 PM
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Fullykenyan wrote:
kayhara wrote:
That's because many Kenyan clients kick out the architect and engineer after approvals, management during construction is crucial to getting the end results that's why you see very beautiful renders but very shoddy buildings, another thing is the client giving instructions directly to the contractor/ fundi which end up messing the building, limited budgets also kill many dreams,visit Vipingo ridge and see quality work, even Mombasa where clients left everything the architect.


Boss, there is very little information online about Vipingo Ridge? how much does an acre go for, or do they sell minimum ten acres? :)
Do they have amenities like Hospitals, ama one has to go all the way to mombasa? Will appreciate if you share some information if you can. Thanks in advance

Minimum is quarter acre , last time i went there they were selling some for 13 million much lower as you enter,they also have some nice houses, but I wouldn't advise anyone to buy in Vipingo standing charge is has been lowered to 48,000/-
only, if you can afford well and good, but the fundis doing houses there are just local fundis with serious supervision you get quality work, and kenyan clients don't be afraid to bomoa if you feel a better job can be done somewhere, sometimes what looks good on paper end up looking bad when built, especially toilets most people just say it's okay ishanjengwa .
To Each His Own
hardwood
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:42:32 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:
obiero wrote:

I believe with proper landscaping and lighting similar to photo 1, the second house isn't poorly designed or much less appealing


Uwongo mtupu my broda Laughing out loudly
How now?
Look at the tumi-misshapen arches, terribly sharp corners and lack of symmetry. Haiwezimek kabisa kabisa no matter how good the landscaping. Let's be honest, if both were being sold for the same price we all know which one would sell faster.


@obiero is right. We are very poor when it comes to landscaping. For some landscaping means filling the whole compound with cabro, and then they complain about the lack of greenery in the city.
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