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Would you trade places with this man?
Kusadikika
#1 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 8:01:10 PM
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I am sure he sleeps in an expensive bed in an expensive house. He probably also drives an expensive car and can afford expensive clothes and jewellery. If you were told to trade places, you take up his lifestyle and his problems, would you do it?

Downtown (Fire), Thika Road (Demolition), Lifesyle (Thrown out), Ukay (demolition).
tycho
#2 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 8:16:24 PM
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Maybe you need to read 'Vanity fair' by William Thackeray, 'a novel without a hero'.

The time I read it I realized that no place is better than the other.

Maybe the only exception is being an alchemist.
alma1
#3 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 8:36:21 PM
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He probably spent all his money on gashungwas. He used to lease property that he knew had been grabbed illegally. Washa akae na mawazo yake. Probably praying to a cow as we speak.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

hardwood
#4 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 9:03:20 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:


I am sure he sleeps in an expensive bed in an expensive house. He probably also drives an expensive car and can afford expensive clothes and jewellery. If you were told to trade places, you take up his lifestyle and his problems, would you do it?

Downtown (Fire), Thika Road (Demolition), Lifesyle (Thrown out), Ukay (demolition).


Even if he was in the wrong I think its human for us to sympathize with an individual who has undergone such a loss.
Bigchick
#5 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 9:50:26 PM
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Could he be paying for something he did or never did?

Am told Karma is very quick this days.....
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#6 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 9:51:51 PM
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Even for a billion dollars. All this troubles and the poor old man will end up in an incinerator at some crematorium. Chasing wind but do they ever listen?
Kusadikika
#7 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 10:21:18 PM
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When these are the things you deal with hata chakula haina ladha, usingizi haupatikani (you do not even notice that you have silk sheets imported from Turkey) The people you spend the most times with physically and on the phone are lawyers and bankers and they are both asking for more money.

I think men have been cheated for a long time. The only people who enjoy all the trappings of wealth are women and children.
Gathige
#8 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2018 4:39:34 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
When these are the things you deal with hata chakula haina ladha, usingizi haupatikani (you do not even notice that you have silk sheets imported from Turkey) The people you spend the most times with physically and on the phone are lawyers and bankers and they are both asking for more money.

I think men have been cheated for a long time. The only people who enjoy all the trappings of wealth are women and children.




Hapo umeongea. No wonder they live longer after the chap is long gone.
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Kusadikika
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:55:05 PM
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Life is hard!!

2012
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:17:11 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:


I am sure he sleeps in an expensive bed in an expensive house. He probably also drives an expensive car and can afford expensive clothes and jewellery. If you were told to trade places, you take up his lifestyle and his problems, would you do it?

Downtown (Fire), Thika Road (Demolition), Lifesyle (Thrown out), Ukay (demolition).



The business lost money, not him. He's still a billionaire, his money is intact and his family is set for many years.

BBI will solve it
:)
Mike Ock
#11 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 1:51:59 AM
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2012 wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:


I am sure he sleeps in an expensive bed in an expensive house. He probably also drives an expensive car and can afford expensive clothes and jewellery. If you were told to trade places, you take up his lifestyle and his problems, would you do it?

Downtown (Fire), Thika Road (Demolition), Lifesyle (Thrown out), Ukay (demolition).



The business lost money, not him. He's still a billionaire, his money is intact and his family is set for many years.

I remember in the Nakumatt thread this is what I was telling people. Those Shahs have made and pocketed their billions through Nakumatt's lifespan. The only people having sleepless nights are their suppliers and lenders who were left holding the bag. Remember the definition of Limited Liability Company, sio jina pekee
Angelica _ann
#12 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 9:02:57 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Life is hard!!



This one is threatening Sanny as if he doesn't know the jam nightmare he has created on the road around that area. He had enough land to build his mall nicely but greed & impunity got the better of him. Let him pay for that! 1st September he has a date with Sanny.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Obi 1 Kanobi
#13 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 10:40:03 AM
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Mike Ock wrote:
2012 wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:


I am sure he sleeps in an expensive bed in an expensive house. He probably also drives an expensive car and can afford expensive clothes and jewellery. If you were told to trade places, you take up his lifestyle and his problems, would you do it?

Downtown (Fire), Thika Road (Demolition), Lifesyle (Thrown out), Ukay (demolition).



The business lost money, not him. He's still a billionaire, his money is intact and his family is set for many years.

I remember in the Nakumatt thread this is what I was telling people. Those Shahs have made and pocketed their billions through Nakumatt's lifespan. The only people having sleepless nights are their suppliers and lenders who were left holding the bag. Remember the definition of Limited Liability Company, sio jina pekee


Very true, the reason Nakumatt went under was because this man and family transferred billions of shillings to majuu, him, his family and children are set for life.

But I wouldn't trade places with him, I kinda like my struggling middle class life and optimism for a better tomorrow
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Swenani
#14 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 11:44:26 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
2012 wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:


I am sure he sleeps in an expensive bed in an expensive house. He probably also drives an expensive car and can afford expensive clothes and jewellery. If you were told to trade places, you take up his lifestyle and his problems, would you do it?

Downtown (Fire), Thika Road (Demolition), Lifesyle (Thrown out), Ukay (demolition).



The business lost money, not him. He's still a billionaire, his money is intact and his family is set for many years.

I remember in the Nakumatt thread this is what I was telling people. Those Shahs have made and pocketed their billions through Nakumatt's lifespan. The only people having sleepless nights are their suppliers and lenders who were left holding the bag. Remember the definition of Limited Liability Company, sio jina pekee


Very true, the reason Nakumatt went under was because this man and family transferred billions of shillings to majuu, him, his family and children are set for life.

But I wouldn't trade places with him, I kinda like my struggling middle class life and optimism for a better tomorrow


Mimi I would rather be him.

I'm better off being stressed with my commercial building being brought down than where my residential rent will come from.
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Kusadikika
#15 Posted : Wednesday, September 05, 2018 5:51:13 PM
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https://nairobinews.nati...ts-wealth-across-world/

SONS IN EPIC FIGHT FOR CITY BILLIONAIRE POPAT’S WEALTH ACROSS THE WORLD
Posted on Sep 3, 2018



By BRIAN WASUNA, bwasuna@ke.nationmedia.com
Sibling rivalry has taken centre stage in the battle over distribution of assets left behind by billionaire businessman Abdulkarim Popat, with his three sons fighting each other for a bigger slice of prime properties in at least eight countries.

Mr Popat died at Aga Khan Hospital, Nairobi, on March 2, 2013, leaving behind his wife Gulzar and three sons — Azim, Alnashir and Adil.

The tycoon’s wish was for his wife, sons Azim and Adil, four grandchildren and a friend to inherit the assets he owned in Kenya.

Mr Popat was immensely wealthy, with many assets in at least four continents. According to his will, he did not owe even a single cent to anyone.

Alnashir, the middle child, was left out of the will, having already been bequeathed what Popat senior deemed to be his inheritance.

OUT-OF-COURT DEAL

First born Azim and last born Adil have been in court since 2013, but last year they reached an out-of-court deal that would see the matter settled and the patriarch’s will executed.

The property dispute has taken a sharp turn, as Azim has asked the High Court to discard the deal, arguing that his younger brother blackmailed him into signing the consent that ended the court battle.

Azim co-owns Plaza 500 Hotel in Vancouver, Canada, as well as two family companies registered in the British Virgin Islands — Millgate Limited and Penrose Properties. The property’s total value is not given in the court documents, but the land it sits on is estimated to be worth Sh2 billion.

One of Plaza 500’s creditors, People’s Trust Company, has now obtained a British Columbia Supreme Court order allowing it to sell the hotel to recover its money.

Millgate and Penrose are, however, managed by a wealth consultancy called Louvre Group, based in Guernsey. Azim claims that the Louvre Group takes instructions from Adil, who took advantage of this to arm-twist him into signing the out-of-court deal.

Under the deal, Azim was to stop challenging his father’s will and join Adil in fighting Alnashir. The Popat first born and his son Jameel were also to sell any Simba Corp shares they receive after estate distribution, to a buyer acceptable to Adil.

BORROW FUNDS

In return, Adil would do his best to ensure that Louvre Group supports Azim’s plans to borrow funds from Canada’s Institutional Mortgage Capital for completion of a project to turn Plaza 500 into an apartment block.

Adil is yet to respond to the application.

“Under these most distressing circumstances, the General Election in Kenya, the unprecedented repeat election, this court’s August vacation and the absolute necessity for me to secure execution of the priority agreements, I felt concerned and had no option but to sign an unconscionable agreement dated September 4, 2017, that reflected everything Adil had always wanted me to do,” Azim says.

Azim adds that Adil insisted on making the Canada-based Popat’s wife and son Jameel to be part of the out-of-court deal.

Before the High Court could deal with the application, the third Popat son — Alnashir — also made an entry into the case, demanding that he also get a portion of the immense wealth.

Court documents show that Alnashir fell out with his father in 2007 after Adil, the last born, was given an executive role at Simba Corporation. Alnashir wanted an equal standing at the family firm.

Mr Popat and Alnashir would later reconcile, which saw the middle child given the family stake at Imperial Bank and three other companies — Super Spring, Pathcare and Cool Extreme.

LEFT OUT

Alnashir now says that Mr Popat’s will was discriminatory as it left him out, and that his siblings have unfairly left him out of the case before High Court judge Mugure Thande.

He claims that several assets were not listed when his siblings and mother sought a grant of probate, which would allow them to execute Mr Popat’s will.

Mr Popat left behind shares worth Sh3.366 billion in privately owned firms, including Simba Corporation, Deluxe Motors, Regal Properties and Bouganvillea Properties.

He also had assets in Canada, Portugal, Spain, Gibraltar, Guernsey, British Virgin Islands, Dubai, Switzerland and England.

Justice Mugure has ordered the parties to appear before her on September 26 for further directions.
hardwood
#16 Posted : Wednesday, September 05, 2018 7:31:53 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:

The tycoon’s wish was for his wife, sons Azim and Adil, four grandchildren and a friend to inherit the assets he owned in Kenya.

Alnashir, the middle child, was left out of the will....




d'oh!
madhaquer
#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 05, 2018 8:47:10 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
2012 wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:


I am sure he sleeps in an expensive bed in an expensive house. He probably also drives an expensive car and can afford expensive clothes and jewellery. If you were told to trade places, you take up his lifestyle and his problems, would you do it?

Downtown (Fire), Thika Road (Demolition), Lifesyle (Thrown out), Ukay (demolition).



The business lost money, not him. He's still a billionaire, his money is intact and his family is set for many years.

I remember in the Nakumatt thread this is what I was telling people. Those Shahs have made and pocketed their billions through Nakumatt's lifespan. The only people having sleepless nights are their suppliers and lenders who were left holding the bag. Remember the definition of Limited Liability Company, sio jina pekee


Very true, the reason Nakumatt went under was because this man and family transferred billions of shillings to majuu, him, his family and children are set for life.

But I wouldn't trade places with him, I kinda like my struggling middle class life and optimism for a better tomorrow


Mimi I would rather be him.

I'm better off being stressed with my commercial building being brought down than where my residential rent will come from.


True,
He plays a completely different game from most of us. It's a temporary setback at best, most likely hedged off ages ago.

Consider that the restaurant on the ground floor of Ukay Center was paying over 2 million in monthly rents, add to the parking collections, the other smaller businesses, profit from the Nakuamatt Ukay branch and compound that over a few years. The building itself must have recovered it's initial illegal investment before the fun stopped.

His everyday life doesn't change much. It's his employees who get hit by the backlash as the businesses wind down.
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